NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[timmyd]

So we all moving onto the dotnxt client now. Trusted? Safe? Are we promoting this client now until nexerns release?

[loopgate88]

Part of the 10M should definitely go for user experience and marketing. To spend NXT marketing without a easy-as-apple interface is a waste and might hurt us permanently. We need to have a client that is as simple as online banking. Our client has to be simpler than bitcoin. Bitcoin's client shouldn't even be a reference. Bank of America's interface should be a guide as far as look and feel goes.
Long and boring instruction videos or manuals cannot overcome a weird hard to use interface.

WE MUST HAVE THE CLIENT BEFORE THE MARKETING.

We need a client now and marketing right after but please do not pull the trigger on marketing before having a client that doesn't reek of crypto currency.

client in a week, marketing needs to start now to be ready in time

Agree 100%

[pinarello]

Part of the 10M should definitely go for user experience and marketing. To spend NXT marketing without a easy-as-apple interface is a waste and might hurt us permanently. We need to have a client that is as simple as online banking. Our client has to be simpler than bitcoin. Bitcoin's client shouldn't even be a reference. Bank of America's interface should be a guide as far as look and feel goes.
Long and boring instruction videos or manuals cannot overcome a weird hard to use interface.

WE MUST HAVE THE CLIENT BEFORE THE MARKETING.

We need a client now and marketing right after but please do not pull the trigger on marketing before having a client that doesn't reek of crypto currency.

I hear or read something about NXT, a link gets me to the client. that is where its end for me, never to come back again.

Joe average wont bother without an effecient self installer client.

Pin

[jl777]

Please calm. 250K sent already. 3 million marketing plan has been tentatively approved. As long as results come in, regular 250K payments will be sent. Marketing is simply a cost that needs to be spent. 250K per month is 3 million NXT per year. that seems enough to get a lot more marketing done than before.

All the sausage making can be done at nxtcrypto now. There is funding. This thread will just be there for the progress announcements.

The point is: we want something official. As the price grows, suddenly people become more and more reluctant to spend on the work we do.
I got thanked by BTer for suggesting them to add NXT, they did, price grew 100%, did I get anything in return? NO. People wanted to reward BTER instead
This community is so ungrateful and selfish that it's painful.

We are sending people to the official bitcoin conferences from our own fucking wallets. Why aren't the NXT fund being spent on this?

Of course I am pissed, I have witnessed this selfish ungratefulness for over a month now and for some fuckedup reason this thread is still seen as the "official" place where these decisions is made, eventhough ALL the PR work are being done by us on the nxt forum. MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and I am fuckng tired of it

Sorry about that, but NXT decision makers are here. Now we have a de facto marketing budget for 2014. Payable monthly, based on making good results each month. you won't have to deal with the funding issues anymore, salacz is de facto in charge of marketing budget, so just need to work with salacz.

Now marketing group has community backing. it is based on performance, but that is only fair. No need to waste energy on what happened in the past. This is a great day for NXT. Marketing budget initial funding happened.

James

[jl777]

Part of the 10M should definitely go for user experience and marketing. To spend NXT marketing without a easy-as-apple interface is a waste and might hurt us permanently. We need to have a client that is as simple as online banking. Our client has to be simpler than bitcoin. Bitcoin's client shouldn't even be a reference. Bank of America's interface should be a guide as far as look and feel goes.
Long and boring instruction videos or manuals cannot overcome a weird hard to use interface.

WE MUST HAVE THE CLIENT BEFORE THE MARKETING.

We need a client now and marketing right after but please do not pull the trigger on marketing before having a client that doesn't reek of crypto currency.

I hear or read something about NXT, a link gets me to the client. that is where its end for me, never to come back again.

Joe average wont bother without an effecient self installer client.

Pin

are you saying nexern's client is an inefficient manual install client that is hard to use? I am confused.

How long does it take to write software? debug it, get it tested, etc. One day, one week, one month? All depends.
How long does it take to get actual marketing results? One hour? One day? one week? one month?

Software development takes time. Marketing also takes time.

With client one week away, we had to start marketing push now.

James

[NxtChoice]

Doge is all about marketing but you have to understand what kind of marketing Doge is. It is a grass-root movement originated form miner's community. People join Doge reddit because they like it and they even spend their own money to promote Doge.

Now you tell me to use marketing to buy people's loyalty. Sorry it is not going to work. You have to create a grass-root movement.

I like marketing and we should do a lot of marketing but you have to be clever about it.    

Yeah, I think FrictionlessCoin NEX is one of the clever promotions.
I support CfB's poll to send him some coins.

As we know:

Bitcoin
  |
  | --- LTC --- A lot of Scrypt Coins
  |
  | --- PPC --- NVC --- A lot of PPC coins
  |
  | --- XPM --- A lot of XPM coins
  |
  | --- NXT --- A lot of NXT copycats

That's it. The innovation get success. Bitcoin is Newton, and NXT will build its success upon Newton's shoulders.

[abctc]

Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

- How will we evaluate the results? By what criteria?  

[jl777]

Can we at least wait until we have a completed White Paper and Open Source Client.  I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!  I would like to have a nice brief article explaining Nxt, Features, POS, and then at the bottom, a download link for one of the Open Source Clients.  You can't throw arbitrary marketing ideas around and expect funding, be more specific.  We need to wait until we have a one click client, or we will lose people forever.

+1

please help with white paper. We need people intimately familiar with source code to make it more accurate and mathematical.

nexern client coming soon

[loopgate88]

Part of the 10M should definitely go for user experience and marketing. To spend NXT marketing without a easy-as-apple interface is a waste and might hurt us permanently. We need to have a client that is as simple as online banking. Our client has to be simpler than bitcoin. Bitcoin's client shouldn't even be a reference. Bank of America's interface should be a guide as far as look and feel goes.
Long and boring instruction videos or manuals cannot overcome a weird hard to use interface.

WE MUST HAVE THE CLIENT BEFORE THE MARKETING.

We need a client now and marketing right after but please do not pull the trigger on marketing before having a client that doesn't reek of crypto currency.

I hear or read something about NXT, a link gets me to the client. that is where its end for me, never to come back again.

Joe average wont bother without an effecient self installer client.

Pin

It needs to be:

easy-as-apple
official-as-apple

Not having a client = death
Confusion over which is the official client = death

Official easy-as-apple client has to be the motto. After all, thinking differently is what NXT is all about.

[Uniqueorn]

Please calm. 250K sent already. 3 million marketing plan has been tentatively approved. As long as results come in, regular 250K payments will be sent. Marketing is simply a cost that needs to be spent. 250K per month is 3 million NXT per year. that seems enough to get a lot more marketing done than before.

All the sausage making can be done at nxtcrypto now. There is funding. This thread will just be there for the progress announcements.

The point is: we want something official. As the price grows, suddenly people become more and more reluctant to spend on the work we do.
I got thanked by BTer for suggesting them to add NXT, they did, price grew 100%, did I get anything in return? NO. People wanted to reward BTER instead
This community is so ungrateful and selfish that it's painful.

We are sending people to the official bitcoin conferences from our own fucking wallets. Why aren't the NXT fund being spent on this?

Of course I am pissed, I have witnessed this selfish ungratefulness for over a month now and for some fuckedup reason this thread is still seen as the "official" place where these decisions is made, eventhough ALL the PR work are being done by us on the nxt forum. MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and I am fuckng tired of it

Sorry about that, but NXT decision makers are here. Now we have a de facto marketing budget for 2014. Payable monthly, based on making good results each month. you won't have to deal with the funding issues anymore, salacz is de facto in charge of marketing budget, so just need to work with salacz.

Now marketing group has community backing. it is based on performance, but that is only fair. No need to waste energy on what happened in the past. This is a great day for NXT. Marketing budget initial funding happened.

James

The deciders? who? When did NXT become centralized? CfB has been hanging out over at the NXT forum all the time, yet he turns to this thread to get the official decisions from people who are invested in 100 other coins too? Makes zero sense.

Where was the logo decision held? nextcoin forum.
Where was the marketing plans hatched? nextcoin forum
Where was the infographics, the videos, the business cards, the conferences, the brochures, the first casinos etc. organized and made? nextcoin forum.

This thread should be nothing but a historical piece to look back on.
Over at the nextcoin forum we got sections, it's actually possible to organize things unlike in this thread.

And it's based on results? Ok by that logic I was thanked by bter to get them to add NXT, so I am patiently waiting for my reward.... Jesus, you can't pay based on results post-event.

If you ask a guy to make a NXT video that cost like 50K NXT and it turns out it didn't get the views we wanted you can't just say "oh no sorry, yo uwont be getting your NXT for the work after all"

THe unprofessionalism is staggering

[NxtChg]

But we don't know how many errors the user makes in input, so we shouldn't do like Microsoft Clippy and autocorrect, we should reject the input (since we know it's wrong) and possibly suggest the nearest valid code (which is what we think, but not guaranteed to be what the user intended.)

Yes, we've sorted this out already, but thanks anyway!

[loopgate88]

Part of the 10M should definitely go for user experience and marketing. To spend NXT marketing without a easy-as-apple interface is a waste and might hurt us permanently. We need to have a client that is as simple as online banking. Our client has to be simpler than bitcoin. Bitcoin's client shouldn't even be a reference. Bank of America's interface should be a guide as far as look and feel goes.
Long and boring instruction videos or manuals cannot overcome a weird hard to use interface.

WE MUST HAVE THE CLIENT BEFORE THE MARKETING.

We need a client now and marketing right after but please do not pull the trigger on marketing before having a client that doesn't reek of crypto currency.

I hear or read something about NXT, a link gets me to the client. that is where its end for me, never to come back again.

Joe average wont bother without an effecient self installer client.

Pin

are you saying nexern's client is an inefficient manual install client that is hard to use? I am confused.

How long does it take to write software? debug it, get it tested, etc. One day, one week, one month? All depends.
How long does it take to get actual marketing results? One hour? One day? one week? one month?

Software development takes time. Marketing also takes time.

With client one week away, we had to start marketing push now.

James

if nexern's client is the one then it should become the official NXT client and we should never refer to it as nexern's client again.

[jl777]

Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

- How will we evaluate the results? By what criteria?  

Give NXT marketing team one month. During that time they will announce results. We will watch results. As long as it is not horribly disappointing, we do it for another month.

Performance based marketing. Performance judged by results.

Marketing team got us listed on bter. NXT price doubles overnight. Let's give marketing a chance to show us what they can do. It is a small price to pay. We are talking 30% of unclaimed coins. Still have 7 million for all the other stuff.

James

[abctc]

    So please we are not dogy we are NXT, decentralized assets, exchange... and please promote in the places where developers need work (like Indian forums for example) this is what we need , developers & marketers.

+1440 !

[pinarello]

Part of the 10M should definitely go for user experience and marketing. To spend NXT marketing without a easy-as-apple interface is a waste and might hurt us permanently. We need to have a client that is as simple as online banking. Our client has to be simpler than bitcoin. Bitcoin's client shouldn't even be a reference. Bank of America's interface should be a guide as far as look and feel goes.
Long and boring instruction videos or manuals cannot overcome a weird hard to use interface.

WE MUST HAVE THE CLIENT BEFORE THE MARKETING.

We need a client now and marketing right after but please do not pull the trigger on marketing before having a client that doesn't reek of crypto currency.

I hear or read something about NXT, a link gets me to the client. that is where its end for me, never to come back again.

Joe average wont bother without an effecient self installer client.

Pin

are you saying nexern's client is an inefficient manual install client that is hard to use? I am confused.

How long does it take to write software? debug it, get it tested, etc. One day, one week, one month? All depends.
How long does it take to get actual marketing results? One hour? One day? one week? one month?

Software development takes time. Marketing also takes time.

With client one week away, we had to start marketing push now.

James

Think you misunderstood, James. As of now, today. so please let that campaign start after we have a client.

Of course you can start with the preparations and determine the angle of attack

[NxtChoice]

What about going on some Bitcoin podcast like Let's Talk Bitcoin and such? There are many. They are big spreaders of news.

Nxt...we need validation from big crypto names, Andreas was one but even he doesn't full understand at this point what it is...

Validation is the key.

we can write the scripts for Tai Zen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rIO_McRPwQ&feature=youtu.be)
- we can brainstorm on topics he could speak about
- some Questions and Answers
- + anyone can write the whole script...
- he has a nice speech + asian looks is also a benefit

I have asked my wife writing the scripts today Her listening is better than me   I will add the subtitle in a few days for those 4 videos.

[Damelon]

Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

- How will we evaluate the results? By what criteria?  

During that time they will announce results.

I will do this anyway in my daily summaries.

[jl777]

Please calm. 250K sent already. 3 million marketing plan has been tentatively approved. As long as results come in, regular 250K payments will be sent. Marketing is simply a cost that needs to be spent. 250K per month is 3 million NXT per year. that seems enough to get a lot more marketing done than before.

All the sausage making can be done at nxtcrypto now. There is funding. This thread will just be there for the progress announcements.

The point is: we want something official. As the price grows, suddenly people become more and more reluctant to spend on the work we do.
I got thanked by BTer for suggesting them to add NXT, they did, price grew 100%, did I get anything in return? NO. People wanted to reward BTER instead
This community is so ungrateful and selfish that it's painful.

We are sending people to the official bitcoin conferences from our own fucking wallets. Why aren't the NXT fund being spent on this?

Of course I am pissed, I have witnessed this selfish ungratefulness for over a month now and for some fuckedup reason this thread is still seen as the "official" place where these decisions is made, eventhough ALL the PR work are being done by us on the nxt forum. MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and I am fuckng tired of it

Sorry about that, but NXT decision makers are here. Now we have a de facto marketing budget for 2014. Payable monthly, based on making good results each month. you won't have to deal with the funding issues anymore, salacz is de facto in charge of marketing budget, so just need to work with salacz.

Now marketing group has community backing. it is based on performance, but that is only fair. No need to waste energy on what happened in the past. This is a great day for NXT. Marketing budget initial funding happened.

James

The deciders? who? When did NXT become centralized? CfB has been hanging out over at the NXT forum all the time, yet he turns to this thread to get the official decisions from people who are invested in 100 other coins too? Makes zero sense.

Where was the logo decision held? nextcoin forum.
Where was the marketing plans hatched? nextcoin forum
Where was the infographics, the videos, the business cards, the conferences, the brochures, the first casinos etc. organized and made? nextcoin forum.

This thread should be nothing but a historical piece to look back on.
Over at the nextcoin forum we got sections, it's actually possible to organize things unlike in this thread.

And it's based on results? Ok by that logic I was thanked by bter to get them to add NXT, so I am patiently waiting for my reward.... Jesus, you can't pay based on results post-event.

If you ask a guy to make a NXT video that cost like 50K NXT and it turns out it didn't get the views we wanted you can't just say "oh no sorry, yo uwont be getting your NXT for the work after all"

THe unprofessionalism is staggering

All of the big NXT holders are monitoring this thread. unclaimed coins are allocated based on NXT community, which is here. it is what it is.

There is now marketing budget. As long as each month there are nice successes, next month is funded. NXT community is smart. It won't expect that 100% of expenditures will lead to success. Just make sure each month there is enough good stuff so that NXT community says, hey cool, keep doing it for another month.

longest journey starts with first month

James

[jl777]

Part of the 10M should definitely go for user experience and marketing. To spend NXT marketing without a easy-as-apple interface is a waste and might hurt us permanently. We need to have a client that is as simple as online banking. Our client has to be simpler than bitcoin. Bitcoin's client shouldn't even be a reference. Bank of America's interface should be a guide as far as look and feel goes.
Long and boring instruction videos or manuals cannot overcome a weird hard to use interface.

WE MUST HAVE THE CLIENT BEFORE THE MARKETING.

We need a client now and marketing right after but please do not pull the trigger on marketing before having a client that doesn't reek of crypto currency.

I hear or read something about NXT, a link gets me to the client. that is where its end for me, never to come back again.

Joe average wont bother without an effecient self installer client.

Pin

are you saying nexern's client is an inefficient manual install client that is hard to use? I am confused.

How long does it take to write software? debug it, get it tested, etc. One day, one week, one month? All depends.
How long does it take to get actual marketing results? One hour? One day? one week? one month?

Software development takes time. Marketing also takes time.

With client one week away, we had to start marketing push now.

James

Think you misunderstood, James. As of now, today. so please let that campaign start after we have a client.

Of course you can start with the preparations and determine the angle of attack

Until funding, it was not possible to do much. Hard to prepare without knowing budget. Don't forget content creations. Anyway, I think this issue is settled. Marketing group that brought is bter is now funded and as long as each month has decent results, funding continues for 2014

For people that want funding for more tech, etc.there are still 7 million NXT unclaimed

James

[Bitventurer]

Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

- How will we evaluate the results? By what criteria?  

by new unlocked accounts on the blockchain ?