NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[bitcoinpaul]

A new video, a new article, a new guerilla whatever is not enough.

Go to big news sites, go to big bitcoin shows, go to big names to talk about NXT.

Does no-one realize that we had enough of videos and articles?

We are already sending people to the biggest Bitcoin conferences and might even get a stand and speaker position at these events, but hey we got zero NXT to do it with, so we pay from our own wallet. Isn't that nice and fair?
The guys who do all the work has to pay for it too

If you really got nothing so far, somebody like CfB should look into it. I'm thankful for your energy and time!

[minusbalancer]

... moreover it will scale later to any size we need and trusted
servers will complete the decentralized infrastructure to keep clients lean, fast and very lightweighted,
this is the way to go. the core has to be the ultimative working horse, the client is using it's first class
api.

So we will have decentralized infrastructure built on top of the set of the servers? So each time when you do login to your lightweight client you do depend on the trusted servers and their api.
Doesn't it look like the structure centralized around the trusted servers?

[bitcoinpaul]

I believe we need to clarify for some people that marketing is not advertising.

[Uniqueorn]

Go sleep or something. You've been yelling for hours now, nothing constructive coming from your fingers.

You've worked on NXT marketing? You mean e-mailing bter, as you've mentioned 8 or 9 times today? Such a selfish community, not giving you a huge reward for your effort.

Based on the way you're acting out I hope you have nothing to do with the organization and marketing of NXT, or else I might start to have serious doubts of the human capital involved in this project. So hopefully you're not as influential as you might think.

Cute It's so fucking cute to see the people who have not been involved with the development of NXT at all think they know who the big players are because they hang around in a forum thread
Have you ever been to the nxt forum?

I bring up the BTer part due to 2 things:

1) People wanted to reward BTER for adding NXT, something I objected to due to it leaving a very negative view of NXT.
It would make people think BTER was paid to add NXT or that we are indirectly bribing other exchanges to add NXT.

2) Because it shows how effective marketing can be. Such a seemingly small event caused the price to jump 100%
This can and will happen again, the next time it'll probably be due to news articles that are being published (we got connections that are working on it). Or when the Euro to NXT exchange adds us. Or when someone famous endorse us.

It's time to take marketing serious (it has been this time for over a month actually). Simple as that. I'd love to see your contributions to NXT

[Uniqueorn]

A new video, a new article, a new guerilla whatever is not enough.

Go to big news sites, go to big bitcoin shows, go to big names to talk about NXT.

Does no-one realize that we had enough of videos and articles?

We are already sending people to the biggest Bitcoin conferences and might even get a stand and speaker position at these events, but hey we got zero NXT to do it with, so we pay from our own wallet. Isn't that nice and fair?
The guys who do all the work has to pay for it too

If you really got nothing so far, somebody like CfB should look into it. I'm thankful for your energy and time!

It's not really about me. It's mor about the team I am managing too, aswell as salsacz. CfB is very aware of this, but I don't think he wants to hand out NXT to anyone as he wants the community to decide, something I approve 100% of, but the way he goes about it is just so haphazardly. At first we were going to have a organized committee, then a couple of forum posts said something and he decided "ok let's just send salsacz 250K and see what happens". It was decided on a whim and suddenly the entire marketing project was decided there and then.
It's just careless and wrong in my opinion.

I have endorsed Salsacz work to CfB before, so he knows that I support salsacz completley, but we are more people and it should be a lot more organized. That's all.
I'm not asking for handouts. I was given 10K by neer.g
neer.g is the only stakeholder that has actually given out any NXT to any of our projects.

[salsacz]

There is a Bitcoin Meetup in London coming up next week on January 21:

http://www.meetup.com/London-bitcoin-meetup/events/159181392/

We need to get a few Nxters there to promote and educate people on Nxt.

So come on, that guy from the Moore's Traditional Museum, his friend from Tower Gardens or even our buddy from the Hoebridge Golf Centre, aren't you interested?

Buump

Buuuuuump

Nobody?

[mezzovide]

If anyone needed Indonesian translator for some marketing articles or anything
I'm more than willing to work my fingers off!

Indonesia is like biggest untapped resources in the world of cryptocurrency.
Most people here barely know about bitcoin. So chance for Nxt would be huge if we can penetrate market.
Been working on several wiki pages and will continue to do so.

Just contact me if anyone interested!  

[loopgate88]

If anyone needed Indonesian translator for some marketing articles or anything
I'm more than willing to work my fingers off!

Indonesia is like biggest untapped resources in the world of cryptocurrency.
Most people here barely know about bitcoin. So chance for Nxt would be huge if we can penetrate market.
Been working on several wiki pages and will continue to do so.

Just contact me if anyone interested!  

Huge market indeed. Thank you for your work.

[admiral.fu]

I updated my javascript project for the bounty:

https://github.com/BloodyRookie/nxtCrypto

I think a test should at least include chrome and firefox because those 2 are probably the most comon browsers.

Thanks for doing this work! We need JS crypto badly. Hope you'll get the bounty

About JS and 64 bit math. Has anyone researched GWT? I think it supports/emulates it.

[Come-from-Beyond]

THese things should've been decided and I am downright shocked by CfB's actions after having talked with him on skype just yesterday aobut this.

Don't worry. This is my personal 250K, I paid 0.005 BTC for them.

[Uniqueorn]

THese things should've been decided and I am downright shocked by CfB's actions after having talked with him on skype just yesterday aobut this.

Don't worry. This is my personal 250K, I paid 0.005 BTC for them.

Well then you are obviously allowed and in the right to do whatever you want with them. But then what happens with the "left over NXT" ?
And why did we suddenly abandon the committee plan that nearly everyone was a proponent of?

[pinarello]

A new video, a new article, a new guerilla whatever is not enough.

Go to big news sites, go to big bitcoin shows, go to big names to talk about NXT.

Does no-one realize that we had enough of videos and articles?

We are already sending people to the biggest Bitcoin conferences and might even get a stand and speaker position at these events, but hey we got zero NXT to do it with, so we pay from our own wallet. Isn't that nice and fair?
The guys who do all the work has to pay for it too

If you really got nothing so far, somebody like CfB should look into it. I'm thankful for your energy and time!

It's not really about me. It's mor about the team I am managing too, aswell as salsacz. CfB is very aware of this, but I don't think he wants to hand out NXT to anyone as he wants the community to decide, something I approve 100% of, but the way he goes about it is just so haphazardly. At first we were going to have a organized committee, then a couple of forum posts said something and he decided "ok let's just send salsacz 250K and see what happens". It was decided on a whim and suddenly the entire marketing project was decided there and then.
It's just careless and wrong in my opinion.

I have endorsed Salsacz work to CfB before, so he knows that I support salsacz completley, but we are more people and it should be a lot more organized. That's all.
I'm not asking for handouts. I was given 10K by neer.g
neer.g is the only stakeholder that has actually given out any NXT to any of our projects.

you should come over more often or read what we have debated here few days ago. There was decided to actually install a marketing committee, days ago.

Also there was the reward programm for all categorys and all people are rewarded, didnt you apply?

[smartwart]

WHAT ABOUT THE WHITEPAPER?

very good question!!!
The Paper must be a pearl, and it gets less notice than it needs!

Currently I'm about to collect all technical info's and facts from CfB early posts.
I will list all technical facts with an short description to clarify the points.
If its bullet proof or just true, it can be integrated to the Paper topic.
A lot of post's with a lot of info's ;-)

Maybe we should we discuss release strategy?
At least we should discuss if would be an good idea to release sequels of papers.
The current content could be split easily to release 3-5 detailed paper.
We could release separate more focused paper and release an collection later which is more summarizing.

So we don't need to wait till the specification of "secrets" like eg. TF is available.
When a new feature becomes released we can release the corresponding paper.

[ferment]

Assuming 0.5.9 is as stable as I hope it is and there are no critical bugs, my next step will be a major refactoring of the code, 0.6.0 will no longer be a single java file. Next, I will add persistence of blocks and transactions in a database instead of using serialized files, and will no longer keep all of them in memory.

Based on my understanding of the code, the current implementation could be split into the following packages to form the NXT framework and platform.

0. Remove all HTTP client support code.
1. Blockchain verification, management and persistence. (org.nxt.nrs.blockchain)
2. Crypto (org.nxt.nrs.crypto)
3. Network (org.nxt.nrs.network)
4. Transparent Forging (org.nxt.nrs.forging)
5. Servlet with High level API (org.nxt.nrs.server)

I'd love to mix and match 1-4 into new JVM projects. This would be very powerful.

[ferment]

If minusbalancer used decompiled sources to base his .NET implementation on, he will have to catch up with my changes and bugfixes

That's why we need a single, unified core, so all the clients can be built around it and rely on this code- and security-reviewed, open-source library.

For now it's Java, but ideally it should be a C++ cross-platform version, which can be linked both statically and dynamically, and can also be easily wrapped into an executable server, which listens for API calls.

Java/JVM is completely fine. There's nothing but headache to be gained from C++.

[Come-from-Beyond]

what exactly means SMS to NXT ?

you send SMS to nxt ?   - nicht verstein, were to an exchange ?

 or you send  NXT with SMS ?  -  very good idea... so that poor countries (like in Africa) can buy nxt , and use it THAT WOULD BE GREAT

1. User sends a premium SMS with his Nxt account
2. Gateway sends NXT to that account

[Come-from-Beyond]

But then what happens with the "left over NXT" ?

They r waiting to be sent to the genesis block in April if the community doesn't come to any consensus earlier.

[salsacz]

http://wideo.co/view/1504591387756502643-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency
salsaCZ this video is amazing  

Very nice. There are a few grammar corrections that need to be made that won't be obvious to non-native English speakers. I'd be happy to do it if you send me a copy of the script.

no. It had already been doublechecked:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345773.msg4213502#msg4213502
(But this text is not designed for non-native english speakers, too hard to understand sometimes )
Thanks to work on NxtMyths I am little smarter now, so there can still be something added... for the new voiceover with music/sounds

[pinarello]

But then what happens with the "left over NXT" ?

They r waiting to be sent to the genesis block in April if the community doesn't come to any consensus earlier.

we have consensus, only BCNext has to handle.

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[Come-from-Beyond]

we have consensus, only BCNext has to handle.

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Very good. Post here its description plz.