NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[Come-from-Beyond]

We don't have a client is the code ready? API?

maybe wesley can create a workaround till the client is there.

No client. API contains only 3 requests.

[CIYAM]

So you agree that my poll here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423241.0 actually work ? because it seems to me no one has a chance of winning anything in this vote.

Not quite the same point (but I do *get* your point) - if I were trying to "fuck things up" for Nxt my guess is that I'd get all my alts to vote for the last option (so let us see how that pans out).

[coolmist]

We don't have a client is the code ready? API?

maybe wesley can create a workaround till the client is there.

No client. API contains only 3 requests.

I can code a client by the end of today for macs.

[NxtChg]

As soon as possible, coz otherwise people gonna put there time in it to create an alternative, while we can have it in NXT self.

when is this possible.

all please wait till answer from cfb.

Will it load the blockchain? Also, there are benefits in have one public site with all issues and votes.

[sherpico77]

i strongly support this. best idea yet.

I support it also although I actually would like to see people have to *pay* to vote (as I don't this has really been tried before and could be an interesting experiment).

no need to pay.....many Nxters have only a few Nxt and we want every stakeholder to vote.

Could the account returns 2 / 3 nxt per vote?
It would be a way of distributing coins for participating

[klee]

I think the real challenge hear is to find a protocol implementing what CIYAM suggests (AM - NXT infrastructure) while we keep Utopianfuture 100% happy.

Engineering challenge!

[Anon136]

My basic argument is just that, With the idea of using tokens + a flat fee there is little to no risk and no need for the creator of the ballot to understand economic thought processes.

I like your thought process and this is somewhat where I am headed - I think if you ensure that what you are voting for itself is not easily gamed (and to my thinking the best approach would be to introduce a "random" aspect so say "A1..A5" instead of just A and "B1..B5" instead of just B where A and B are polemic ideas but 1..5 are different variations thereof) then people can just vote for A or B (not really caring whether 1..5 is implemented as long as it is an A or a B) then it becomes harder for each A and B *player* to game the system by spending more.

on second thought you would still need to craft the incentives right either way because a gamer could in theory purchase votes from stakeholders.

[CIYAM]

on second thought you would still need to craft the incentives right either way because a gamer could in theory purchase votes from stakeholders.

But once again if the vote is only for A or B rather than A1..x and B1..x then buying those votes are no better than using your own NXT.

The idea being that the choice of A1...x or B1...x would be entirely *random* (not a specific choice) so the specific choice that has been voted on is just the general idea of either A or B.

Hope this makes sense (yes corruption could still happen if all the A's or B's colluded and that would have to be another issue to be considered).

[Come-from-Beyond]

I can code a client by the end of today for macs.

Ok. Let me check my schedule...

20th - Implement mining in Lakshmi
21st - Test JS-implementations of NRS crypto algo, deploy NRS with Asset Exchange to the testnet
22nd - Resolve some issues assigned to me in Jira
23rd - Implement transaction handling in Lakshmi
24th - Review Account Control code
25th - Fix bugs in Account Control code
26th - Day-off

Well, I could do VS review on 26th, then bug fixes and testing...

[Damelon]

so r u saying he would have to invent TF himself to compete?

Yes.  

   its a feature

Edit: features don;t have to be open source do they...just like HIVE or DNA

Sorry but I just stumbled upon this while preparing my summary.

Nearly blew coffee through my nose laughing.

I had never realised it and it's bloody hilarious 

[MtheK]

Hello Guys,
I published the first alpha version of my Android App "NXT Watcher".
See https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2588.0.html for further details and install instructions.

Screenshot to get a first impression of how it looks like:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1304372/NXTWatcher/Screenshots/NXTWatcher2.png

I need a lot help testing on different devices, especially Gingerbread and Honeycomb!

So if you own an Android device, follow the link above and please provide some feedback

Additionally there is a 1k bounty for providing a good looking, Android-ready laucher logo for the app -- two guys working on it already.


And now the obligate NXT signature   :
If you like it, you are welcome to donate a few NXT to keep me motivated
6887853321138092071

Newsflash!

NXT Watcher version 0.1.4. is out!

Not a groundbreaking release, but I added a few new features.
v0.1.4, 20.01.2014:

• Added refresh button to the chart view, thus no more need to re-download data each time (except android closes the app).
  
• Added free-vertical zoom/move mode.
  
• Implemented a smart vertical grid instead of the fixed grid.
• Fixed a bug that caused the app to crash if it was closed by android and restarted using the app history.

[Anon136]

on second thought you would still need to craft the incentives right either way because a gamer could in theory purchase votes from stakeholders.

But once again if the vote is only for A or B rather than A1..x and B1..x then buying those votes are no better than using your own NXT.

The idea being that the choice of A1...x or B1...x would be entirely *random* (not a specific choice) so the specific choice that has been voted on is just the general idea of either A or B.

Hope this makes sense (yes corruption could still happen if all the A's or B's colluded and that would have to be another issue to be considered).

I thought I understood what you were saying before. now i am not so certain

So for example you may say: A1 is spend on alice for marking, A2 is spend on bob for marketing, and A3 is spend on charlie for marketing. B1 is spend on nate for development, B2 is spend on frank for development, and B3 is spend on jim for development? Asside from being a little bit sexist, is that something like what you are talking about?

[utopianfuture]

I can code a client by the end of today for macs.

Ok. Let me check my schedule...

20th - Implement mining in Lakshmi
21st - Test JS-implementations of NRS crypto algo, deploy NRS with Asset Exchange to the testnet
22nd - Resolve some issues assigned to me in Jira
23rd - Implement transaction handling in Lakshmi
24th - Review Account Control code
25th - Fix bugs in Account Control code
26th - Day-off

Well, I could do VS review on 26th, then bug fixes and testing...

Yesssss - can't wait until 21st. I want to test the asset exchange. Would be fun enough to forget all the voting and funding discussion for a while.

[coolmist]

I can code a client by the end of today for macs.

Ok. Let me check my schedule...

20th - Implement mining in Lakshmi
21st - Test JS-implementations of NRS crypto algo, deploy NRS with Asset Exchange to the testnet
22nd - Resolve some issues assigned to me in Jira
23rd - Implement transaction handling in Lakshmi
24th - Review Account Control code
25th - Fix bugs in Account Control code
26th - Day-off

Well, I could do VS review on 26th, then bug fixes and testing...

That actually works perfectly for me, I have the 26th off too.

[landomata]

I can code a client by the end of today for macs.

Ok. Let me check my schedule...

20th - Implement mining in Lakshmi
21st - Test JS-implementations of NRS crypto algo, deploy NRS with Asset Exchange to the testnet
22nd - Resolve some issues assigned to me in Jira
23rd - Implement transaction handling in Lakshmi
24th - Review Account Control code
25th - Fix bugs in Account Control code
26th - Day-off

Well, I could do VS review on 26th, then bug fixes and testing...

I noticed someone squatted on Lakshmi      

Edit: TODAY even...Squatters 

[wesleyh]

I can code a client by the end of today for macs.

Ok. Let me check my schedule...

20th - Implement mining in Lakshmi
21st - Test JS-implementations of NRS crypto algo, deploy NRS with Asset Exchange to the testnet
22nd - Resolve some issues assigned to me in Jira
23rd - Implement transaction handling in Lakshmi
24th - Review Account Control code
25th - Fix bugs in Account Control code
26th - Day-off

Well, I could do VS review on 26th, then bug fixes and testing...

Well, if it's only going to take that long then I probably shouldn't bother; http://nxtra.org/voting/add.php (unfinished...)

[CIYAM]

So for example you may say: A1 is spend on alice for marking, A2 is spend on bob for marketing, and A3 is spend on charlie for marketing. B1 is spend on nate for development, B2 is spend on frank for development, and B3 is spend on jim for development? Asside from being a little bit sexist, is that something like what you are talking about?

Yes - this is the basic idea - so people are voting whether to spend on "marketing" or "development" but who will actually *get* the funds for either choice would be a random choice of the winning "side" (the randomness could be based upon timestamps or something else blockchain related such as hashes).

So if you are "Alice" then spending a huge amount of NXT may guarantee that A wins the vote but it doesn't at all guarantee that *you* win the vote.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Yesssss - can't wait until 21st. I want to test the asset exchange. Would be fun enough to forget all the voting and funding discussion for a while.

Then u should read Asset Exchange APIs. We don't have a client yet.

[landomata]

Yesssss - can't wait until 21st. I want to test the asset exchange. Would be fun enough to forget all the voting and funding discussion for a while.

Then u should read Asset Exchange APIs. We don't have a client yet.

there is something in the works...

[BitcoinForumator]

I can code a client by the end of today for macs.

Ok. Let me check my schedule...

20th - Implement mining in Lakshmi
21st - Test JS-implementations of NRS crypto algo, deploy NRS with Asset Exchange to the testnet
22nd - Resolve some issues assigned to me in Jira
23rd - Implement transaction handling in Lakshmi
24th - Review Account Control code
25th - Fix bugs in Account Control code
26th - Day-off

Well, I could do VS review on 26th, then bug fixes and testing...

I noticed someone squatted on Lakshmi      

Edit: TODAY even...Squatters  

It's someone who is a regular here. I suspect someone out of the top "30" guys here.