NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[cryptolawyer]

Knowing identity of carlos allows credible legal threat to stop his nonsense. He doesn't care about actually running a coin, so your protection doesn't work. People will still get scammed and then might blame NXT.

If you want to legally prohibit people  from redistributing and using your code in other projects, copyright law already does that.  Open source doesn't mean anyone can use it if you have a copyright notice on the code.

This no difference between software and images copyright.

Simply add on top of every source file:

/*
 * Developer : Developer Name (example@example.com)
 * Date : xx/yy/zzzz
 * All code (c)2014 name -- all rights reserved
* You may not use, copy, or distribute the code without written permission from the  developer
*
 */

Yeah it's as simple as that.

That makes it illegal to use the code without developer's permission.

This actually is the most restrictive form of license you can release your code under. According to this, every time your code is called or executed you need written permission from the developer. The mainstream open source licenses are what you want to be considering; as they have well thought-out mechanisms to permit your code to be useful yet restrictive enough to prohibit exploitative uses.

"According to this, every time your code is called or executed you need written permission from the developer."

Not everytime. Jus once. If the developer has offered the permission to use it with Nxt project, that one time written permission is enough.

Not quite, who does he give the written permission to? Nxt, as has been pointed out, is not a separate entity, but an informal group of individuals. Each would need separate written permission. How about all future users of Nxt who are unknown at this time?

I'm not advocating that this be made unnecessarily complicated, but there's a reason that software licenses are not one liners. If we want to call the software open source, it really should be licensed under one of the accepted open source licenses, otherwise you have unclear copyright when people use or build on the platform.

People are watching the crypto currency movement very with an eye towards developing commercial applications, even if the community has other motives. Releasing under a well known license would go a long way to comforting commercial developers, the attention of whom would work wonders for Nxt.

[Damelon]

Knowing identity of carlos allows credible legal threat to stop his nonsense. He doesn't care about actually running a coin, so your protection doesn't work. People will still get scammed and then might blame NXT.

If you want to legally prohibit people  from redistributing and using your code in other projects, copyright law already does that.  Open source doesn't mean anyone can use it if you have a copyright notice on the code.

This no difference between software and images copyright.

Simply add on top of every source file:

/*
 * Developer : Developer Name (example@example.com)
 * Date : xx/yy/zzzz
 * All code (c)2014 name -- all rights reserved
* You may not use, copy, or distribute the code without written permission from the  developer
*
 */

Yeah it's as simple as that.

That makes it illegal to use the code without developer's permission.

This actually is the most restrictive form of license you can release your code under. According to this, every time your code is called or executed you need written permission from the developer. The mainstream open source licenses are what you want to be considering; as they have well thought-out mechanisms to permit your code to be useful yet restrictive enough to prohibit exploitative uses.

"According to this, every time your code is called or executed you need written permission from the developer."

Not everytime. Jus once. If the developer has offered the permission to use it with Nxt project, that one time written permission is enough.

Not quite, who does he give the written permission to? Nxt, as has been pointed out, is not a separate entity, but an informal group of individuals? How all future users of Nxt who are unknown at this time.

I'm not advocating that this be made unnecessarily complicated, but there's a reason that software licenses are not one liners. If we want to call the software open source, it really should be licensed under one of the accepted open source licenses, otherwise you have unclear copyright when people use or build on the platform.

People are watching the crypto currency movement very with an eye towards developing commercial applications, even if the community has other motives. Releasing under a well known license would go a long way to comforting commercial developers, the attention of whom would work wonders for Nxt.

The source code now is released under the MIT licence.

https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt-public/src/4073c21098076d3469b3f74d49e73ffabe3a2001/MIT-license.txt?at=master

[cryptolawyer]

Knowing identity of carlos allows credible legal threat to stop his nonsense. He doesn't care about actually running a coin, so your protection doesn't work. People will still get scammed and then might blame NXT.

If you want to legally prohibit people  from redistributing and using your code in other projects, copyright law already does that.  Open source doesn't mean anyone can use it if you have a copyright notice on the code.

This no difference between software and images copyright.

Simply add on top of every source file:

/*
 * Developer : Developer Name (example@example.com)
 * Date : xx/yy/zzzz
 * All code (c)2014 name -- all rights reserved
* You may not use, copy, or distribute the code without written permission from the  developer
*
 */

Yeah it's as simple as that.

That makes it illegal to use the code without developer's permission.

This actually is the most restrictive form of license you can release your code under. According to this, every time your code is called or executed you need written permission from the developer. The mainstream open source licenses are what you want to be considering; as they have well thought-out mechanisms to permit your code to be useful yet restrictive enough to prohibit exploitative uses.

"According to this, every time your code is called or executed you need written permission from the developer."

Not everytime. Jus once. If the developer has offered the permission to use it with Nxt project, that one time written permission is enough.

Not quite, who does he give the written permission to? Nxt, as has been pointed out, is not a separate entity, but an informal group of individuals? How all future users of Nxt who are unknown at this time.

I'm not advocating that this be made unnecessarily complicated, but there's a reason that software licenses are not one liners. If we want to call the software open source, it really should be licensed under one of the accepted open source licenses, otherwise you have unclear copyright when people use or build on the platform.

People are watching the crypto currency movement very with an eye towards developing commercial applications, even if the community has other motives. Releasing under a well known license would go a long way to comforting commercial developers, the attention of whom would work wonders for Nxt.

The source code now is released under the MIT licence.

https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt-public/src/4073c21098076d3469b3f74d49e73ffabe3a2001/MIT-license.txt?at=master

Great, thanks for the clarification.

[starik69]

20000! 

[cromaclear]

is bter working slow to process next deposits for you??

more than 2 hours with me...i thought they had corrected that...sync button doen't work either....

what the hell is going on with bter??

[salsacz]

is bter working slow to process next deposits for you??

more than 2 hours with me...i thought they had corrected that...sync button doen't work either....

what the hell is going on with bter??

2 hours if fine, I am waiting for more than 3 days

[EvilDave]

Very quick question, çoz I just got home to find both my home NRS node and me VPS being completely mad:

Is/has something wierd been happening on the client/blockchain front, and do I need to upgrade to 5.11 ?

[Damelon]

Very quick question, çoz I just got home to find both my home NRS node and me VPS being completely mad:

Is/has something wierd been happening on the client/blockchain front, and do I need to upgrade to 5.11 ?

Some people have reported splits since the new client was released.

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[EvilDave]

Very quick question, çoz I just got home to find both my home NRS node and me VPS being completely mad:

Is/has something wierd been happening on the client/blockchain front, and do I need to upgrade to 5.11 ?

Some people have reported splits since the new client was released.

Put me down as reporting that both my 5.10 nodes (home & VPS) seem to have split off into madville.
Constant blockchain re-scans, looks stable for 5 minutes, then the blocks start running back and the unconfirmed tx go to the moon.
Refeshing NRS in-browser makes no diff, restoring blockchain backups also only good for 5 minutes.

Bollocks, looks like I'm going to be upgrading for a while.
I hate everyone.........

[xibeijan]

Very quick question, çoz I just got home to find both my home NRS node and me VPS being completely mad:

Is/has something wierd been happening on the client/blockchain front, and do I need to upgrade to 5.11 ?

Some people have reported splits since the new client was released.

Put me down as reporting that both my 5.10 nodes (home & VPS) seem to have split off into madville.
Constant blockchain re-scans, looks stable for 5 minutes, then the blocks start running back and the unconfirmed tx go to the moon.
Refeshing NRS in-browser makes no diff, restoring blockchain backups also only good for 5 minutes.

Bollocks, looks like I'm going to be upgrading for a while.
I hate everyone.........

Same happened to me, all the sudden 5.0.10 became unstable.  I think there was even a fork and block explorer was on another branch.

[FrictionlessCoin]

My interpretation is that any NXT holder is damaged by anybody that steals NXT property. So theoretically, anybody owning NXT at the time of infringement would have standing to sue. Is that wrong?
James

And when a stakeholder is actually doing those things? Copying, cloning etc? isn't that the case with all those clones?

So I guess you have to be a Nxt stakeholder to clone Nxt.  Looks like the NEM folks (apparently Nxt insiders) are busy collecting donations in Nxt and BTC for their Nxt clone:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.0  

Let the clone wars begin!

What was that again about the 'trap' in the code that'll render clones dead in 24 hours?

[msin]

My interpretation is that any NXT holder is damaged by anybody that steals NXT property. So theoretically, anybody owning NXT at the time of infringement would have standing to sue. Is that wrong?
James

And when a stakeholder is actually doing those things? Copying, cloning etc? isn't that the case with all those clones?

So I guess you have to be a Nxt stakeholder to clone Nxt.  Looks like the NEM folks (apparently Nxt insiders) are busy collecting donations in Nxt and BTC for their Nxt clone:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.0  

Let the clone wars begin!

What was that again about the 'trap' in the code that'll render clones dead in 24 hours?

Anyone can clone Nxt, but CFB can kill it.  NEM is founded by Utopian, he's a Nxt supporter, but the only insiders would be CFB and JL. 

[cromaclear]

is bter working slow to process next deposits for you??

more than 2 hours with me...i thought they had corrected that...sync button doen't work either....

what the hell is going on with bter??

2 hours if fine, I am waiting for more than 3 days

well, now, new funny thing. my nxt in bter were sent from the receiving account to the market account but they do not appear in my balance...
don't tell me why but bter does not work very good....

[okaynow]

January 31 is Chinese New Year, so Bter & friends in the east are probably having a hangover now...

[FrictionlessCoin]

My interpretation is that any NXT holder is damaged by anybody that steals NXT property. So theoretically, anybody owning NXT at the time of infringement would have standing to sue. Is that wrong?
James

And when a stakeholder is actually doing those things? Copying, cloning etc? isn't that the case with all those clones?

So I guess you have to be a Nxt stakeholder to clone Nxt.  Looks like the NEM folks (apparently Nxt insiders) are busy collecting donations in Nxt and BTC for their Nxt clone:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.0  

Let the clone wars begin!

What was that again about the 'trap' in the code that'll render clones dead in 24 hours?

Anyone can clone Nxt, but CFB can kill it.  NEM is founded by Utopian, he's a Nxt supporter, but the only insiders would be CFB and JL. 

So, because Utopian is a Nxt support, it's okay for him to create a clone?

[salsacz]

actually it would be stupid if someone outside of Nxt community wanted to create fork of Nxt, because he has no experience etc

[jl777]

Does anybody have experience with JNA or JNI?
We need somebody to make libzerocoin callable from Java and I think JNI allows us to do that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Native_Interface

If you can help with this please let me know.

James

[FrictionlessCoin]

actually it would be stupid if someone outside of Nxt community wanted to create fork of Nxt, because he has no experience etc

So, anyone inside of the Nxt community is allowed to create a fork of Nxt?

[salsacz]

actually it would be stupid if someone outside of Nxt community wanted to create fork of Nxt, because he has no experience etc

So, anyone inside of the Nxt community is allowed to create a fork of Nxt?

sure, it spreads the word about Nxt