NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[Come-from-Beyond]

PS: How old r u? Ur deeds prove that u r not a mature person. Want me to give the examples of ur immature behavior?

Let me guess. My deposit page?

So now we are down to calling each other "kiddies"? Cool. Let's do it.

I call u a kid coz I hope that u will see that something wrong in ur behavior. Let's take a break for a while.

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[NxtChg]

I call u a kid coz I hope that u will see that something wrong in ur behavior.

You do speak in riddles, that's for sure...

[TwinWinNerD]

You can kick this pig, is going nowhere. One of your big stakeholders in all respect of NXT dumped 1M coins on Bter just to let you all see I can.
I hope you all not surprised this pig is not moving.
The big stakeholders are offloading for more than a weeks now and they will continue to do so for months so don’t expect price to rise in the coming months, but expect the worse, and don’t give me the“good coins getting wide spread” now sh**, cos coins going nowhere, 60 people own 80% of NXT.!!!
You were still not able to release the “official” client (vaporware) so people will have to use other clients instead.
Nexern is personally responsible for the price dip (3x he did not deliver) that will follow after my message.
Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now. (and don’t give me the “good coins getting wide spread” again)
Marketing is a disaster and a joke, you gave 1M to 1 guy that decides to give it out on stupid translations and stupid video.
Nowhere have I seen any marketing effort of value! There is no master plan, no guidance and leadership like dogecoin did, lack of that will kill this puppy soon
Meanwhile you all discussing stupid things like voting system and color of the coin, NXT get your act together and start do something cos ethereum and emunie will kill you instantly they hit the market. What you all got right now is hot air.
It is arrogant to think you have something to offer that others don’t have, if you don’t start get NXT ibn to the open before ethereum and emunie might as well sell all your freaking coins right now cos rhey are worth sh***

and where is that f*** client!

currently 60 people own only 65%, and with the exchanges (they don't count normally) it is 74%.

[jkoil]

Please try to concentrate and read all three paragraphs right one after another. It is not SO difficult

I can't pass the 2nd paragraph coz writing the code at the same time. I let someone else to continue the discussion instead of me.

Is this case such that it can't be solved well enough with simulation or statistics, eg. by running some big test case and getting so much data that the probabilities can be seen?

[landomata]

PS: How old r u? Ur deeds prove that u r not a mature person. Want me to give the examples of ur immature behavior?

Let me guess. My deposit page?

So now we are down to calling each other "kiddies"? Cool. Let's do it.

BTW, since you didn't give me a link and instead switched to personal attacks, you lost the argument.

chill out man....

[nakaone]

Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now.

I don't believe you are a "Whale", reading from your posts, it seems that you never bought nxt with any of your "7 figure investment".
It sounds like you missed the action from Bter and now you are creating this fake mass dump scenario in hope that you can buy in cheap.
PLEASE Prove me wrong.

i also think he is bluffing because you will not find any worser point to sell than now - after all we know the client will be released within the next 3-5 days, there were very good news from the miami conference etc.

the only point I am with him is that we should not get arrogant, there are tons of competitors, nxt has a small first mover advantages, but it is neccessary to keep hard work on

[landomata]

Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now.

I don't believe you are a "Whale", reading from your posts, it seems that you never bought nxt with any of your "7 figure investment".
It sounds like you missed the action from Bter and now you are creating this fake mass dump scenario in hope that you can buy in cheap.
PLEASE Prove me wrong.

i also think he is bluffing because you will not find any worser point to sell than now - after all we know the client will be released within the next 3-5 days, there were very good news from the miami conference etc.

the only point I am with him is that we should not get arrogant, there are tons of competitors, nxt has a small first mover advantages, but it is neccessary to keep hard work on

good assessment we got a lot to work to do to stay ahead.
 

[dzarmush]

You can kick this pig, is going nowhere. One of your big stakeholders in all respect of NXT dumped 1M coins on Bter just to let you all see I can.
I hope you all not surprised this pig is not moving.
The big stakeholders are offloading for more than a weeks now and they will continue to do so for months so don’t expect price to rise in the coming months, but expect the worse, and don’t give me the“good coins getting wide spread” now sh**, cos coins going nowhere, 60 people own 80% of NXT.!!!
You were still not able to release the “official” client (vaporware) so people will have to use other clients instead.
Nexern is personally responsible for the price dip (3x he did not deliver) that will follow after my message.
Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now. (and don’t give me the “good coins getting wide spread” again)
Marketing is a disaster and a joke, you gave 1M to 1 guy that decides to give it out on stupid translations and stupid video.
Nowhere have I seen any marketing effort of value! There is no master plan, no guidance and leadership like dogecoin did, lack of that will kill this puppy soon
Meanwhile you all discussing stupid things like voting system and color of the coin, NXT get your act together and start do something cos ethereum and emunie will kill you instantly they hit the market. What you all got right now is hot air.
It is arrogant to think you have something to offer that others don’t have, if you don’t start get NXT ibn to the open before ethereum and emunie might as well sell all your freaking coins right now cos rhey are worth sh***

and where is that f*** client!

currently 60 people own only 65%, and with the exchanges (they don't count normally) it is 74%.

Btw is there a stats about top 100 or top 1000 accounts? There are only 60 showed in the blockchain explorer.

[kunibopl]

I call u a kid coz I hope that u will see that something wrong in ur behavior.

You do speak in riddles, that's for sure...

directing your users to CfB in case you make mistakes with the withdrawals is indeed bad style.
CfB is right when he says ECC can be implemented client side.

also you seem to like riding horses to death by repeating the same things over and over again.

[Come-from-Beyond]

@ Client devs

I got no more API call requests, so I'll implement only those that I have now.

[lucky88888]

Btw is there a stats about top 100 or top 1000 accounts? There are only 60 showed in the blockchain explorer.

I would really love a function in the blockchain explorer to be able to search up my account and see where i stand with the amount in my account.  

[Damelon]

You can kick this pig, is going nowhere. One of your big stakeholders in all respect of NXT dumped 1M coins on Bter just to let you all see I can.
I hope you all not surprised this pig is not moving.
The big stakeholders are offloading for more than a weeks now and they will continue to do so for months so don’t expect price to rise in the coming months, but expect the worse, and don’t give me the“good coins getting wide spread” now sh**, cos coins going nowhere, 60 people own 80% of NXT.!!!
You were still not able to release the “official” client (vaporware) so people will have to use other clients instead.
Nexern is personally responsible for the price dip (3x he did not deliver) that will follow after my message.
Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now. (and don’t give me the “good coins getting wide spread” again)
Marketing is a disaster and a joke, you gave 1M to 1 guy that decides to give it out on stupid translations and stupid video.
Nowhere have I seen any marketing effort of value! There is no master plan, no guidance and leadership like dogecoin did, lack of that will kill this puppy soon
Meanwhile you all discussing stupid things like voting system and color of the coin, NXT get your act together and start do something cos ethereum and emunie will kill you instantly they hit the market. What you all got right now is hot air.
It is arrogant to think you have something to offer that others don’t have, if you don’t start get NXT ibn to the open before ethereum and emunie might as well sell all your freaking coins right now cos rhey are worth sh***

and where is that f*** client!

Nice to hear your opinion

After writing that post, didn't you feel a wall of irony falling on you?

Your argument revolves about us seemingly needing to want you to dump.
So many assumptions and half-facts here.
So many opinions dressed up as facts.

The arrogance of people who think they are entitled is amazing.

I agree however that you should sell your coins now, if you think it's such a horrible product.

[mww]

You can kick this pig, is going nowhere. One of your big stakeholders in all respect of NXT dumped 1M coins on Bter just to let you all see I can.
I hope you all not surprised this pig is not moving.
The big stakeholders are offloading for more than a weeks now and they will continue to do so for months so don’t expect price to rise in the coming months, but expect the worse, and don’t give me the“good coins getting wide spread” now sh**, cos coins going nowhere, 60 people own 80% of NXT.!!!
You were still not able to release the “official” client (vaporware) so people will have to use other clients instead.
Nexern is personally responsible for the price dip (3x he did not deliver) that will follow after my message.
Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now. (and don’t give me the “good coins getting wide spread” again)
Marketing is a disaster and a joke, you gave 1M to 1 guy that decides to give it out on stupid translations and stupid video.
Nowhere have I seen any marketing effort of value! There is no master plan, no guidance and leadership like dogecoin did, lack of that will kill this puppy soon
Meanwhile you all discussing stupid things like voting system and color of the coin, NXT get your act together and start do something cos ethereum and emunie will kill you instantly they hit the market. What you all got right now is hot air.
It is arrogant to think you have something to offer that others don’t have, if you don’t start get NXT ibn to the open before ethereum and emunie might as well sell all your freaking coins right now cos rhey are worth sh***

and where is that f*** client!

This is not a get rich quick scheme, This is the history of decenteralized payment systems in the making, That includes etherium and other coins, want pump and dumps? This is not one sorry, So let the big boys discuss code and math and get the FUCK out of here.

You have no right to speak, I know you dumping millions of coins below market price so STFU.

You personally ar the reason price dont get up!

I distribute to new users at a convenience because I am not as greedy as you, I have all the right to speak since I actually contribute in coins, code, projects in crypto space and much much more since 2010.

I am not the one cursing low prices and an empty wallet, Even though I don't have a job I have a career, Never complained when I was dead poor, never raised my head higher than people because I made money.

its okay little boy, your nuts will grow someday no need to scream and act tough. *_^

Aren't you the same person who was selling at 0.000045 right before we got added to new exchanges? and now your selling off again right before we get a proper client?

I'd just like to say thank you. Without weak hands like yours it would be allot harder to make a profit.

I sincerely hope someone buys through your fake walls and your completely removed from the game. however much i like to make easy money, i hate to see prices manipulated by such a big stake stuck with such a weak handed investor.

People like you were lucky to get in early, but luck can only ride you so far. The people who hold now, the serious investors who actually realize NXT's intrinsic advantages, will be the ones laughing come april.

Now please leave. Or just crash the market and get it over and done with. I've put up another 200k between 0.00007 and 0.00006. Please, please bite.

[jettico]

Please try to concentrate and read all three paragraphs right one after another. It is not SO difficult

I can't pass the 2nd paragraph coz writing the code at the same time. I let someone else to continue the discussion instead of me.

I'd rather doubt someone else here is interested in statistics and the future of nxt coin at the same time. Is there?

It is really important.

Steps 3-5 in http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Transparent_Forging from the statistics point of view are equivalent to comparing random numbers uniformly distributed between 0 and 1/N where N is number of coins in the wallet (normalization coefficient is the same for all wallets and is omitted for clarity).

Now imagine that you throw a dice with numbers from 1 to 6 and your opponent throws a semi-dice with three possible values from 1 to 3. Who gets the lower number wins the round. In half of the cases you will throw 4-6 and win. In the other half you will have 50:50 chances to win. Thus your chances are 1/2 + 1/4 = 0.75 and his chances are 1/4 = 0.25. Which is 3 times lower.

For arbitrary ratio K between two wallets the probability ratio is 2K-1. For example, a wallet with 100k coins is 199 times more likely to forge a block than 1k wallet.

I can send you those three paragraphs in a pm so that when you get a spare minute you could think about it and answer.

Or maybe there's another active thread where I can raise the issue? Who invented TF anyway? Was it you or BCNext

[Come-from-Beyond]

Please try to concentrate and read all three paragraphs right one after another. It is not SO difficult

I can't pass the 2nd paragraph coz writing the code at the same time. I let someone else to continue the discussion instead of me.

I'd rather doubt someone else here is interested in statistics and the future of nxt coin at the same time. Is there?

It is really important.

Steps 3-5 in http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Transparent_Forging from the statistics point of view are equivalent to comparing random numbers uniformly distributed between 0 and 1/N where N is number of coins in the wallet (normalization coefficient is the same for all wallets and is omitted for clarity).

Now imagine that you throw a dice with numbers from 1 to 6 and your opponent throws a semi-dice with three possible values from 1 to 3. Who gets the lower number wins the round. In half of the cases you will throw 4-6 and win. In the other half you will have 50:50 chances to win. Thus your chances are 1/2 + 1/4 = 0.75 and his chances are 1/4 = 0.25. Which is 3 times lower.

For arbitrary ratio K between two wallets the probability ratio is 2K-1. For example, a wallet with 100k coins is 199 times more likely to forge a block than 1k wallet.

I can send you those three paragraphs in a pm so that when you get a spare minute you could think about it and answer.

Or maybe there's another active thread where I can raise the issue? Who invented TF anyway? Was it you or BCNext

It was BCNext.

Tell me, u have 2 accounts but still roll 1 die?

[Passion_ltc]

You can kick this pig, is going nowhere. One of your big stakeholders in all respect of NXT dumped 1M coins on Bter just to let you all see I can.
I hope you all not surprised this pig is not moving.
The big stakeholders are offloading for more than a weeks now and they will continue to do so for months so don’t expect price to rise in the coming months, but expect the worse, and don’t give me the“good coins getting wide spread” now sh**, cos coins going nowhere, 60 people own 80% of NXT.!!!
You were still not able to release the “official” client (vaporware) so people will have to use other clients instead.
Nexern is personally responsible for the price dip (3x he did not deliver) that will follow after my message.
Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now. (and don’t give me the “good coins getting wide spread” again)
Marketing is a disaster and a joke, you gave 1M to 1 guy that decides to give it out on stupid translations and stupid video.
Nowhere have I seen any marketing effort of value! There is no master plan, no guidance and leadership like dogecoin did, lack of that will kill this puppy soon
Meanwhile you all discussing stupid things like voting system and color of the coin, NXT get your act together and start do something cos ethereum and emunie will kill you instantly they hit the market. What you all got right now is hot air.
It is arrogant to think you have something to offer that others don’t have, if you don’t start get NXT ibn to the open before ethereum and emunie might as well sell all your freaking coins right now cos rhey are worth sh***

and where is that f*** client!

Then get yourself together and make giveaways, promotions and fund some big projects. I'm not a big stakeholder, I have a few several thousand NXT, but I'm trying my personal best with my projects. If I would have 1 million NXT or more I would work full time on Nxt for 6 months or more, to make it worth nearly $1each.

[nexern]

This is not a get rich quick scheme, This is the history of decenteralized payment systems in the making, That includes etherium and other coins, want pump and dumps? This is not one sorry, So let the big boys discuss code and math and get the FUCK out of here.

Don't be so rude. Use something like "Thank you for your competent opinion".  

PS: Current price is irrelevant, Nxt will outperform with VISA + MasterCard anyway.

  dream on my belarus friend dream on. There is still something called reality. come back to earth lets face the FACTS

facts about NXT:

60 whale waiting to dump on the slightes price move
No client
No TF
No AE
No nothing

the only thing you have is non useble alias
now you have nothing.

just relax emule.
nxt has reached more in this 65 days than any other crypto before.
for the client i can tell you the same. currently there are three
desktop clients in work (hopefully i don't forget one, many action here).
minusbalancer creates a one-in-all version running without server part,
marcus03 writing a rich feature client including quoting, charting and
more and i am writing a lean account centric version.

client dev is a serious matter, user funds are involved and therefore
you can be sure, even with pressure, i don't release something half just
to satisfy your or any other quick demand and i am sure the other dev's
looking at this similar.

in all respect for emunie and dan (developing this in c++ must be a horrorshow
for him and deserves attention) but nxt is playing simple in another league.
i absolutly don't see emunie as competion because both are totally different
animals. the other way around, emunie could be an interesting additonal
gateway provider for nxt.

[smartwart]

Is there any statistic on how the distribution of NXT developed over time?

its not possible,
cause number of account != number of users.

[mww]

This is not a get rich quick scheme, This is the history of decenteralized payment systems in the making, That includes etherium and other coins, want pump and dumps? This is not one sorry, So let the big boys discuss code and math and get the FUCK out of here.

Don't be so rude. Use something like "Thank you for your competent opinion".  

PS: Current price is irrelevant, Nxt will outperform with VISA + MasterCard anyway.

  dream on my belarus friend dream on. There is still something called reality. come back to earth lets face the FACTS

facts about NXT:

60 whale waiting to dump on the slightes price move
No client
No TF
No AE
No nothing

the only thing you have is non useble alias
now you have nothing.

just relax emule.
nxt has reached more in this 65 days than any other crypto before.
for the client i can tell you the same. currently there are three
desktop clients in work (hopefully i don't forget one, many action here).
minusbalancer creates a one-in-all version running without server part,
marcus03 writing a rich feature client including quoting, charting and
more and i am writing a lean account centric version.

client dev is a serious matter, user funds are involved and therefore
you can be sure, even with pressure, i don't release something half just
to satisfy your or any other quick demand and i am sure the other dev's
looking at this similar.

in all respect for emunie and dan (developing this in c++ must be a horrorshow
for him and deserves attention) but nxt is playing simple in another league.
i absolutly don't see emunie as competion because both are totally different
animals. the other way around, emunie could be an interesting additonal
gateway provider for nxt.

any update on when you expect the client to be released?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Is there any statistic on how the distribution of NXT developed over time?

its not possible,
cause number of account != number of users.

It's still better than in Bitcoin where a new address is created each time.