NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[Emule]

Finally some one that has the courage to stand up against the aye sayers.

my work is done here, uniqorn will take over now.

We want to see results in stead of hocus pocus talk RESULTS AND SOLUTIONS!

NXT revolution is here!

btw: CfB I know for sure you r working on a NXT clone to outpass the rich founders.

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[BitcoinForumator]

I think the community first and foremost wants features added.

How that is best/fastest achieved I don't know personally - that is up to developers who have the know-how.

If waiting for BCNext is better or if it's better to do it from community...i'm not competent enough to say anything about it.

Compent people should decide which is better.

[Come-from-Beyond]

CfB, can you at least confirm that this effort is not in vain? Don't need full details, but if I'm investing in this, I need to know that in two months it won't be absolutely useless because Nxt will have something different up it's sleeve.

I think Nxt won't have something different. The community simply won't adapt cardinal changes.

[Uniqueorn]

I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Well, we have 2 options:

1. Take current version of Nxt and keep develop it in our own way, without changes added by BCNext
2. Wait for 2nd and 3rd parts of BCNext's plan, read them and decide if we need to follow them. If we don't then see point 1.

In any case we lose nothing. Nxt already has more features than Bitcoin.

Obviously everyone wants NXT to be as great as possible. In it's current incarnation it would not really stand a chance against Ethereum and Emu.
The value of NXT today is reflected in the promised features of NXT, not what it is today, so of course everyone goes with option 2.

But then why is it so wrong to ask for just a little statement from him? Noone is asking for him to be a leader, I don't want a leader, but I want a common goal that the community can unite over and collaborate to make a reality. Something that drives the community forward.

If his reasoning (according to you) is that he don't want to be a leading figure so that's why he jumped off the atlas, well then he has misunderstood the human psyche, by makng himself this elusive enigmatic figure who only speaks esotherically through you, he has made the community dependent on him, because none of us know whats coming next.

[Hacer88]

I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Well, we have 2 options:

1. Take current version of Nxt and keep develop it in our own way, without changes added by BCNext
2. Wait for 2nd and 3rd parts of BCNext's plan, read them and decide if we need to follow them. If we don't then see point 1.

In any case we lose nothing. Nxt already has more features than Bitcoin.

I choose 2.

Because developing takes a lot of time and when we finish the client and all other features we can listen to the second and third plan in the mean time.

We have still much work to do.

[Come-from-Beyond]

btw: CfB I know for sure you r working on a NXT clone to outpass the rich founders.

Ur crystal ball didn't help u when u sold NXTs right before price jumped. I bet it's wrong again.

[Come-from-Beyond]

because none of us know whats coming next.

Forget about what is coming next. Add ur own features.

[Hacer88]

I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Well, we have 2 options:

1. Take current version of Nxt and keep develop it in our own way, without changes added by BCNext
2. Wait for 2nd and 3rd parts of BCNext's plan, read them and decide if we need to follow them. If we don't then see point 1.

In any case we lose nothing. Nxt already has more features than Bitcoin.

Obviously everyone wants NXT to be as great as possible. In it's current incarnation it would not really stand a chance against Ethereum and Emu.
The value of NXT today is reflected in the promised features of NXT, not what it is today, so of course everyone goes with option 2.

But then why is it so wrong to ask for just a little statement from him? Noone is asking for him to be a leader, I don't want a leader, but I want a common goal that the community can unite over and collaborate to make a reality. Something that drives the community forward.

If his reasoning (according to you) is that he don't want to be a leading figure so that's why he jumped off the atlas, well then he has misunderstood the human psyche, by makng himself this elusive enigmatic figure who only speaks esotherically through you, he has made the community dependent on him, because none of us know whats coming next.

Maybe these plans of BCNext are too important to give away in the middle of the competition with Ethereum etc.

We have to focus on what we've got. And that's A LOT!

[Damelon]

Finally some one that has the courage to stand up against the aye sayers.

my work is done here, uniqorn will take over now.

We want to see results in stead of hocus pocus talk RESULTS AND SOLUTIONS!

NXT revolution is here!

btw: CfB I know for sure you r working on a NXT clone to outpass the rich founders.

I love these guys with their easy and transparent ways of driving wedges in communities.

Did you take out spin doctor course together with Fric? 

Yes, there are questions. So what? That's good!

The dirty trick you are employing is assigning motivations to Uniqueorn and actually *using* him without consent to further your obvious agenda.

That is quite low and would be a problem if it wasn't so blatantly obvious.

It's rather cute, actually.

[Uniqueorn]

Finally some one that has the courage to stand up against the aye sayers.

my work is done here, uniqorn will take over now.

We want to see results in stead of hocus pocus talk RESULTS AND SOLUTIONS!

NXT revolution is here!

btw: CfB I know for sure you r working on a NXT clone to outpass the rich founders.

I love these guys with their easy and transparent ways of driving wedges in communities.

Did you take out spin doctor course together with Fric? 

Yes, there are questions. So what? That's good!

The dirty trick you are employing is assigning motivations to Uniqueorn and actually *using* him without consent to further your obvious agenda.

That is quite low and would be a problem if it wasn't so blatantly obvious.

It's rather cute, actually.

What are you talking about? Go back 2 pages and you will see that I dismissed everything Emule said and called him a downright joke. My questions are coming soley from myself and I have asked these questions in different formulations for over 2 weeks now.

[Damelon]

What are you talking about? Go back 2 pages and you will see that I dismissed everything Emule said and called him a downright joke. My questions are coming soley from myself and I have asked these questions in different formulations for over 2 weeks now.

That is what I am saying, Uni.

I'm trying to point out that HE is using YOUR words. Not the other way around.

[martismartis]

Hi here

One question is bothering me for a while: is there any plans to create a solution of accepting NXT in e-shop, etc.? I mean payment tool, like bitpay for example.

Now we are spending thousands of NXT for 1 minute on radio, while we could spend on payment tool development. Now we just spend our NXT on exchanges, in other words come like a squirrel in the wheel.

Or did I miss something?

I believe there are at least two people on this (payment module for integration in webshops). And a bounty for developing a tipping bot (on reddit?) exists also.

I'm working on this with a developer.

CfB, can you at least confirm that this effort is not in vain? Don't need full details, but if I'm investing in this, I need to know that in two months it won't be absolutely useless because Nxt will have something different up it's sleeve.

Or is this basically a reference to Asset Exchange?

yea, that's right. I also had plans for payment module, that's why I was asking about it. Now I'm in nowhere, I don't know what will happen in the future. Maybe we will not need any payment module at all?

[Uniqueorn]

What are you talking about? Go back 2 pages and you will see that I dismissed everything Emule said and called him a downright joke. My questions are coming soley from myself and I have asked these questions in different formulations for over 2 weeks now.

That is what I am saying, Uni.

I'm trying to point out that HE is using YOUR words. Not the other way around.

Well anyone who follows this thread knows that I dismissed him and that my questions are valid and it seems most people here today agree with me and want some enlightenment.

My biggest concern is that it seems to be frowned upon to even be a thinking being. Asking these sort of questions is like blasphemy.

It seems people forget that the reason people have invested in NXT is due to the promised features, not the current incarnation. It would be downright fraudlent if the promised features don't come into existence.

[bitcoinpaul]

I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Well, we have 2 options:

1. Take current version of Nxt and keep develop it in our own way, without changes added by BCNext
2. Wait for 2nd and 3rd parts of BCNext's plan, read them and decide if we need to follow them. If we don't then see point 1.

In any case we lose nothing. Nxt already has more features than Bitcoin.

2 1+2 is the wise choice. This incredible community can create fantastic things. If we would solely rely on BCNext plans we would miss chances to develop great ideas and features BCNext wouldn't thought of. Why not merge OUR ideas with BCNext ideas?

[NxtChg]

Ok, I don't feel like I am welcomed here anymore. I guess all the hate has reached a tipping point.

Here's a poll, let's play a little reality-show game, where you can actually vote:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448718.0

So if you don't want to see me here or anywhere near Nxt, here's your chance. You can also spout your final insults there.

[MarvellousMutant]

CfB just wants to start some unrest. He wants to start a revolution by us by making us angry at him
The goal is to get some developers to take over the project with everybody beeing happy about it as BCNxt and CfB can't do anything right

[CrazyEyes]

LET SING THE US NATIONAL ANTHEM TOGETHER!

[rriky92]

Ok, I don't feel like I am welcomed here anymore. I guess all the hate has reached a tipping point.

Here's a poll, let's play a little reality-show game, where you can actually vote:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448718.0

So if you don't want to see me here or anywhere near Nxt, here's your chance. You can also spout your final insults there.

Please, just STOP fighting all and feel champion of justice, if you do not like what others write do not tease and you'll see that no one will tell you anything.

[LiQio]

LET SING THE US NATIONAL ANTHEM TOGETHER!

classic!

[wesleyh]

Ok, I don't feel like I am welcomed here anymore. I guess all the hate has reached a tipping point.

Here's a poll, let's play a little reality-show game, where you can actually vote:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448718.0

So if you don't want to see me here or anywhere near Nxt, here's your chance. You can also spout your final insults there.

No one is asking you to leave. Just learn to give constructive criticism (or none at all).