Re: Mining pools list

[organofcorti]

introducing Tricky's Bitcoin pool, http://pool.wemine.uk

started out as my own private pool which got me nowhere fast, now open to the public, please feel free to sign up and pool our resources, would be awesome to hit a block of BTC 

thank you, im sure i already posted in this thread, but extra posts are always welcome

Sorry, didn't see it -- could you find it and repost?

It was a post from a sigspammer and added no value effectively just repeating an announce for tricky's pool.

Thanks ck.

Could the pool op for "Tricky's Bitcoin pool" post a listing request with relevant data in the format I give on the first page?

sorry for delay, lost the post and been waiting for somebody else to post to get it back in my list :/

Pool:                      Tricky's Bitcoin Pool
Website:                 pool.wemine.uk
Proxy:                    No
Generation address:  1AePMyovoijxvHuKhTqWvpaAkRCF4QswC6
Coinbase signature:
Payout method:        prop
Fee:                       0
Pay Tx Reward:        yes
Vardiff:                   min 127
Local Work:             stratum / gbt
Pay Orphans:           no.
Min Withdrawal:       0.001  fee 0.0002
Merge Mining:          No

Done. Please check the listing for mistakes.

Good luck - I hope your reward method doesn't cause you problems. I'd change to DGM or PPLNS ASAP.

[RichBC]

As Kano mentioned, I wait for a pool op to request being added to the list, and they need to provide all the info requested in the first post.

Out of interest, does BW.com publish a publicly accessible block history, with shares per block?

OK understood, I just read this "This post is designed as a handy short cut to help you find your favourite pool's forum thread, or shop for a new pool" I guess that is why Antpool BTCC & others are not here?


BW.com shows their recent Block history on the Website.

https://www.bw.com/pool/i

Longer Term is shown here.

https://block.bitbank.com/blocks?w=BW.COM


Rich

Thanks Rich. Is there a link that shows the block history, with shares per block?

Not quite sure what you mean by shares per block, can you point me at an example,  but as far as I know that is the only data available.

Rich

[organofcorti]

As Kano mentioned, I wait for a pool op to request being added to the list, and they need to provide all the info requested in the first post.

Out of interest, does BW.com publish a publicly accessible block history, with shares per block?

OK understood, I just read this "This post is designed as a handy short cut to help you find your favourite pool's forum thread, or shop for a new pool" I guess that is why Antpool BTCC & others are not here?


BW.com shows their recent Block history on the Website.

https://www.bw.com/pool/i

Longer Term is shown here.

https://block.bitbank.com/blocks?w=BW.COM


Rich

Thanks Rich. Is there a link that shows the block history, with shares per block?

Not quite sure what you mean by per block, can you point me at an example,  but as far as I know that is the only data available.

Rich

Number of shares submitted per block, such as here (labelled "Diff" in the lower table): http://kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks

[RichBC]

Number of shares submitted per block, such as here (labelled "Diff" in the lower table): http://kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks

OK understood. I do not think there is any more info & am not sure there are many of the larger pools other than Kano that put up that information?

Rich

[organofcorti]

Number of shares submitted per block, such as here (labelled "Diff" in the lower table): http://kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks

OK understood. I do not think there is any more info & am not sure there are many of the larger pools other than Kano that put up that information?

Rich

Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do.

Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool
Medium sized pools:  Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter
Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool

It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about.

[RichBC]

Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do.

Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool
Medium sized pools:  Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter
Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool

It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about.

What are you using the scraped data for, is it collated / presented somewhere?

Rich

[organofcorti]

Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do.

Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool
Medium sized pools:  Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter
Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool

It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about.

What are you using the scraped data for, is it collated / presented somewhere?

Rich

Yes, it is: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

[RichBC]

Yes, it is: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

Some interesting data there, will have a proper look when I get a mo. I see now why you are looking for the Shares per block info. I suspect there will always be some very big mining pools that continue to share no or very little information, which is going to make some of the analysis you would like to do impossible?


Rich

[organofcorti]

Yes, it is: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

Some interesting data there, will have a proper look when I get a mo. I see now why you are looking for the Shares per block info. I suspect there will always be some very big mining pools that continue to share no or very little information, which is going to make some of the analysis you would like to do impossible?


Rich

It certainly is impossible to perform a profitability analysis any of the pools that don't make the data easily accessible.

More importantly though, the pools that don't provide (anonymised) user account hashrates also prevent us from having an overview of the health of bitcoin mining from a miner's perspective. Many pools provide this information, but not enough to account for a significant portion of network miners.

[macbook-air]

Number of shares submitted per block, such as here (labelled "Diff" in the lower table): http://kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks

OK understood. I do not think there is any more info & am not sure there are many of the larger pools other than Kano that put up that information?

Rich

Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do.

Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool
Medium sized pools:  Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter
Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool

It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about.

Our data is super easy to be parsed. Simply one line:

Code:

lines = list(('-1 ' + x if x.lstrip().startswith('[') else x).lstrip().replace('/', ' ').split()[:-1] for x in __import__('re').sub('<.*?>', '', __import__('urllib').urlopen('https://www.f2pool.com/bitcoin-blocks').read().split('<pre', 1)[1].split('>', 1)[1].split('</pre>')[0].replace('&nbsp;', ' ').replace('<br>', '\n')).splitlines()[2:])

after that you can do:

Code:

lines = list(tuple(a(b) for a, b in zip((int, lambda x: __import__('datetime').datetime.strptime(x, '[%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%fZ]'), str, float, float, int, str, float, int, lambda x: float(x[:-1]) * 0.01, lambda x: float(x[:-1]) * 0.01), line if int(line[0]) >= 0 else line[:7] + ['0'] + line[7:])) for line in lines)

[organofcorti]

Number of shares submitted per block, such as here (labelled "Diff" in the lower table): http://kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks

OK understood. I do not think there is any more info & am not sure there are many of the larger pools other than Kano that put up that information?

Rich

Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do.

Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool
Medium sized pools:  Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter
Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool

It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about.

Our data is super easy to be parsed. Simply one line:

Code:

lines = list(('-1 ' + x if x.lstrip().startswith('[') else x).lstrip().replace('/', ' ').split()[:-1] for x in __import__('re').sub('<.*?>', '', __import__('urllib').urlopen('https://www.f2pool.com/bitcoin-blocks').read().split('<pre', 1)[1].split('>', 1)[1].split('</pre>')[0].replace('&nbsp;', ' ').replace('<br>', '\n')).splitlines()[2:])

after that you can do:

Code:

lines = list(tuple(a(b) for a, b in zip((int, lambda x: __import__('datetime').datetime.strptime(x, '[%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%fZ]'), str, float, float, int, str, float, int, lambda x: float(x[:-1]) * 0.01, lambda x: float(x[:-1]) * 0.01), line if int(line[0]) >= 0 else line[:7] + ['0'] + line[7:])) for line in lines)

I'm sure that seems obvious to those who have a comp sci background. I however don't, and if you just used <table> tags -- which is the HTML standard for tables -- I'd be able to parse it very simply using a language with which I'm familiar.

Alternatively, consider a CSV or JSON API such as that created by matt4054 for AntPool: http://maaapi.mooo.com/info/blocks.php



Edit: @macbook-air - do you have a file of the pool's entire block history handy? The format isn't so important for a one-off build of the history until now.

[macbook-air]

Number of shares submitted per block, such as here (labelled "Diff" in the lower table): http://kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks

OK understood. I do not think there is any more info & am not sure there are many of the larger pools other than Kano that put up that information?

Rich

Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do.

Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool
Medium sized pools:  Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter
Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool

It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about.

Our data is super easy to be parsed. Simply one line:

Code:

lines = list(('-1 ' + x if x.lstrip().startswith('[') else x).lstrip().replace('/', ' ').split()[:-1] for x in __import__('re').sub('<.*?>', '', __import__('urllib').urlopen('https://www.f2pool.com/bitcoin-blocks').read().split('<pre', 1)[1].split('>', 1)[1].split('</pre>')[0].replace('&nbsp;', ' ').replace('<br>', '\n')).splitlines()[2:])

after that you can do:

Code:

lines = list(tuple(a(b) for a, b in zip((int, lambda x: __import__('datetime').datetime.strptime(x, '[%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%fZ]'), str, float, float, int, str, float, int, lambda x: float(x[:-1]) * 0.01, lambda x: float(x[:-1]) * 0.01), line if int(line[0]) >= 0 else line[:7] + ['0'] + line[7:])) for line in lines)

I'm sure that seems obvious to those who have a comp sci background. I however don't, and if you just used <table> tags -- which is the HTML standard for tables -- I'd be able to parse it very simply using a language with which I'm familiar.

Alternatively, consider a CSV or JSON API such as that created by matt4054 for AntPool: http://maaapi.mooo.com/info/blocks.php



Edit: @macbook-air - do you have a file of the pool's entire block history handy? The format isn't so important for a one-off build of the history until now.

I will send you by email, please pm me your email address.

[masterwolf]

Please add this pool!  


Pool:                      BitClubPool
Website:                 http://www.bitclubpool.com
Proxy:                    NO
Generation address:  155fzsEBHy9Ri2bMQ8uuuR3tv1YzcDywd4
Coinbase signature:   BitClub Network
Payout method:        PPLNS
Fee:                        0%
Pay Tx Reward:        NO
Vardiff:                   Automatic (18 20 SPM)
Local Work:             Stratum
Pay Orphans:           NO (We would love to but we can't afford it...)
Min Withdrawal:       0.002 BTC (We will try to push out as much Dust Payment as possible but this be the promissed minimum)
Merge Mining:          No Merged Mining at the moment.


*New Pool Promo!  
$100 USD Bonus given to the Block Finder.  To qualify for the Bonus, the found block has to be odd number block. (Example #367439)

Super Bonus, if you hit a block right at 7%, $1,000 USD worth of BTC or 1 economy round trip ticket to Iceland for the Mining Farm Tuor

stratum mining and it is pool.bitclubpool.com:3333
for US members, us.bitclubpool.com:3333  
for EU members, eu.bitclubpool.com:3333

Done.

Hi when do you pay miners for the matured blocks?

[$punk]

Thanks for this list i am really confused why pools when one can mine solo?

[p3yot33at3r]

Please add this pool!  


Pool:                      BitClubPool
Website:                 http://www.bitclubpool.com
Proxy:                    NO
Generation address:  155fzsEBHy9Ri2bMQ8uuuR3tv1YzcDywd4
Coinbase signature:   BitClub Network
Payout method:        PPLNS
Fee:                        0%
Pay Tx Reward:        NO
Vardiff:                   Automatic (18 20 SPM)
Local Work:             Stratum
Pay Orphans:           NO (We would love to but we can't afford it...)
Min Withdrawal:       0.002 BTC (We will try to push out as much Dust Payment as possible but this be the promissed minimum)
Merge Mining:          No Merged Mining at the moment.


*New Pool Promo!  
$100 USD Bonus given to the Block Finder.  To qualify for the Bonus, the found block has to be odd number block. (Example #367439)

Super Bonus, if you hit a block right at 7%, $1,000 USD worth of BTC or 1 economy round trip ticket to Iceland for the Mining Farm Tuor

stratum mining and it is pool.bitclubpool.com:3333
for US members, us.bitclubpool.com:3333  
for EU members, eu.bitclubpool.com:3333

Done.

Hi when do you pay miners for the matured blocks?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152263.0

Pool OP hasn't logged on for a month.......

[wargo]

Thanks for this list i am really confused why pools when one can mine solo?

To high hashrate to mine a block with regular equipment. You will get some coins on pools than in solo mining (but if you win - reward will be bigger).

[Laviathon]

Stable for 2 weeks.   Add me to the list.

Pool:                       BCMonster.com
Website:                  http://www.BCMonster.com
Proxy:                     No
Generation address:  1E18BNyobcoiejcDYAz5SjbrzifNDEpM88
Coinbase signature:   /BCMonster/
Payout method:        PPLNS
Fee:                        0.5%
Pay Tx Reward:        Yes
Vardiff:                   12 SPM
Local Work:             stratum
Pay Orphans:           No
Min Withdrawal:       0.00010000 BTC
Merge Mining:          No

[organofcorti]

Stable for 2 weeks.   Add me to the list.

Pool:                       BCMonster.com
Website:                  http://www.BCMonster.com
Proxy:                     No
Generation address:  1E18BNyobcoiejcDYAz5SjbrzifNDEpM88
Coinbase signature:   /BCMonster/
Payout method:        PPLNS
Fee:                        0.5%
Pay Tx Reward:        Yes
Vardiff:                   12 SPM
Local Work:             stratum
Pay Orphans:           No
Min Withdrawal:       0.00010000 BTC
Merge Mining:          No

Done. Please check listing for errors.

[Biodom]

In reference to the following post:
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

What is the chance that a medium size pool has 91% profitability in a given 52 week interval?
Can we have a number re such chance based on probabilities alone.

I am also curious about the following plot:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y8DmfiCVB30/VpYwyM3ou9I/AAAAAAAAE8w/PIJU_Z0JYnU/s1600/2_profitPlot_2016-01-13.png

The majority of pools have data points balanced above and below the average.
There are two notable exceptions: Slush's and Eligius with both pools having much more data points below than above during the indicated period.
I did not count those data points that touch the average as drawn and there are 3/9 (three above and 9 below) for Slush's and 3/11 for Eligius.
This is quite different in comparison with Bitminer (12/8), Kano's (10/5) and Ghash (6/13).

[organofcorti]

In reference to the following post:
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

What is the chance that a medium size pool has 91% profitability in a given 52 week interval?
Can we have a number re such chance based on probabilities alone.

I am also curious about the following plot:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y8DmfiCVB30/VpYwyM3ou9I/AAAAAAAAE8w/PIJU_Z0JYnU/s1600/2_profitPlot_2016-01-13.png

The majority of pools have data points balanced above and below the average.
There are two notable exceptions: Slush's and Eligius with both pools having much more data points below than above during the indicated period.
I did not count those data points that touch the average as drawn and there are 3/9 (three above and 9 below) for Slush's and 3/11 for Eligius.
This is quite different in comparison with Bitminer (12/8), Kano's (10/5) and Ghash (6/13).

Hi Biodom,

This question should probably go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66026.0
I'll ask a mod to move it.

What is the chance that a medium size pool has 91% profitability in a given 52 week interval?

The number of blocks solved is the important detail here. http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2015/07/faq-bitcoin-mining-and-luck-statistic.html explains what the 'luck statistic' is, but the short of it is that a time period doesn't matter at all - only the number of blocks solved. The CDF figure in the table is the probability that you want, which is based on the number of blocks solved.

Profitability is (total income / total shares) / (expected income / expected shares) so it is also affected by orphan rates and transaction fees as well as 'luck'.

I am also curious about the following plot:

That plot is based on weekly data, so you can't read much into the smoothed curves. I'll probably get rid of that plot soon.

This plot is based on data per block (smoothing bandwidth is 500 blocks) and is more useful:



For example, the time GHash.IO was under attack is clearly visible, and I'd be worried about EclipseMC. For Slush and Eligius it's not so obvious and I'd analyse the data rather than read too much into the visualisation.