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[Wilikon]

Surprise snow in the semidesert – Mexico

Mexico – Historic snowfall in the Santuarios

Heavy snowfall in Spain

Turkey – Heavy snowfall closes hundreds of villages

Stage three at Paris-Nice bike race cancelled after snow

Unyielding California drought continues, despite ‘miracle March’ deluge....

It seems popular today to blame California weather on climate change instead of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (the actual scientific cause.)

Must be money in the junk science of warmology...

Warmology© Spendulus 2016

[galdur]

Surprise snow in the semidesert – Mexico

Mexico – Historic snowfall in the Santuarios

Heavy snowfall in Spain

Turkey – Heavy snowfall closes hundreds of villages

Stage three at Paris-Nice bike race cancelled after snow

Unyielding California drought continues, despite ‘miracle March’ deluge
NASA Finds Drought in Eastern Mediterranean Worst of Past 900 Years
Zimbabwe declares 'state of disaster' due to drought
Extreme drought persists across South Africa
Perth heatwave: temperatures climb above 40C for fourth day in a row
A Freak Heatwave Has Hit The North Pole

Are you saying those are proofs of Global Cooling? It must be because too much snow is, according the the warmist religion...

No. It's just an example that you can 'prove' anything by cherry picking the news headlines.

I´m not trying to prove anything it´s just something I come across while following global warming news. It´s interesting if you have a passable grasp of geography. Some morons probably think that France and Turkey and Kazakhstan are somewhere in the Arctic, that´s their problem. If those morons think that they can prove freakin global warming on a message board, well that´s a problem beyond any help I guess.

[valta4065]

Sure, you are just repeating misinformation.

First, let's look at the ACTUAL thing happening in the blog I suggested you look at.  Quoting the final paragraph is a nice way to get to the heart of the controversy.

Here’s Scientific American on the story yesterday:

    The disagreement may seem esoteric, but it underpins the biggest climate disagreement of the past decades. Climate models, which are virtual representations of our planet, project that temperatures were much higher in the early 2000s than was the case in reality. Scientists have been trying to understand why.

Here the question is the disagreement of climate models with reality.  So you don't even have the subject right, do you?  Strange that you blow the horn of triumph on your bicycle that just sailed off the cliff of reason, but hey, stranger things have happened.

Nope. It has nothing to do with the subject. You wanna say models have problem confronting reality? Well sure go on, I'll agree on that with you no problem. That's not with this statement that I have a problem as it is a rather true statement!

Next,

Please look at the EXACT claim that I made, which for convenience you may call the "Pause Claim."  It has to do with satellite data, very specifically the lack of any statistically significant warming showed in a particular data set.

You are not refuting this claim, and neither are those you quote.  Rather you are just sort of talking side by side, like babies do when they play side by side with other babies.  Babies have not yet learned to play with others.

That's very simple and should be obvious.  Is it not?

Lol, so you're actually claiming people saying the rise of temperature is of 0.1° per decade are saying there is a pause in temperature increase...
What's obvious is that you quoted a shitty blog claiming scientists admited there was a pause in temperature increase, and when you look in the source of this shitty article you see that it's not the case. Not the case at all.

[valta4065]

Surprise snow in the semidesert – Mexico

Mexico – Historic snowfall in the Santuarios

Heavy snowfall in Spain

Turkey – Heavy snowfall closes hundreds of villages

Stage three at Paris-Nice bike race cancelled after snow

Unyielding California drought continues, despite ‘miracle March’ deluge
NASA Finds Drought in Eastern Mediterranean Worst of Past 900 Years
Zimbabwe declares 'state of disaster' due to drought
Extreme drought persists across South Africa
Perth heatwave: temperatures climb above 40C for fourth day in a row
A Freak Heatwave Has Hit The North Pole

Are you saying those are proofs of Global Cooling? It must be because too much snow is, according the the warmist religion...

Poor little things, unable to get even the slightest grasp of climate complexity which makes 99% of scientists believe that global warming will lead to another ice age 

It's just sad that people like actually vote.... Maybe democracy is not the best system after all...

[tvbcof]

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It's just sad that people like actually vote.... Maybe democracy is not the best system after all...

There seems to be a distinct correlation between Westerns who see much to like about:

 - The nicety of China's political system and the control it makes possible relative to democracy.

 - The desirability of globalization and of a 'one world' system of control...normally manifested as the U.N. at this point.

 - 'concern' over global climate change, overpopulation, etc.  Things that need a guiding hand...usually their own.

[valta4065]

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It's just sad that people like actually vote.... Maybe democracy is not the best system after all...

There seems to be a distinct correlation between Westerns who see much to like about:

 - The nicety of China's political system and the control it makes possible relative to democracy.

 - The desirability of globalization and of a 'one world' system of control...normally manifested as the U.N. at this point.

 - 'concern' over global climate change, overpopulation, etc.  Things that need a guiding hand...usually their own.

I don't see corelation with the first one and the two others, first one would need to be totally brainwashed.

But the two last? Yeah totally. Probably because the people intelligent enough to accept reality also understand that humanity went from families to tribes then to villages then to clans then to regions then to small countries then to big countries and that the next steps will be empires then world.

But it's easier to deny history

[galdur]

When 'Global Warming' Became 'Climate Change'
When exactly did one become the other, and why?
 
Emily Chasan  Jennifer Rossa

March 15, 2016 — 2:37 PM GMT


First there was "global warming." Then came "climate change." Turns out, use of the latter became more prevalent in 2008 and that dominance became irreversible in 2009. Here's how use of the terms compare in stories on the Bloomberg Professional service. ... more

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-15/climate-change-replaces-global-warming-as-preferred-term-for-a-changing-world

[galdur]

A May 2014 Yale University study found that while "climate change" appears to be preferred by scientists, "global warming" can evoke stronger emotions and issue engagement for some groups of people.   

[SgtMoth]

EDWARD SNOWDEN: “GLOBAL WARMING IS AN INVENTION OF THE CIA”


http://observatorial.com/2016/03/08/edward-snowden-global-warming-is-an-invention-of-the-cia/#

[Spendulus]

Sure, you are just repeating misinformation.

First, let's look at the ACTUAL thing happening in the blog I suggested you look at.  Quoting the final paragraph is a nice way to get to the heart of the controversy.

Here’s Scientific American on the story yesterday:

    The disagreement may seem esoteric, but it underpins the biggest climate disagreement of the past decades. Climate models, which are virtual representations of our planet, project that temperatures were much higher in the early 2000s than was the case in reality. Scientists have been trying to understand why.

Here the question is the disagreement of climate models with reality.  So you don't even have the subject right, do you?  Strange that you blow the horn of triumph on your bicycle that just sailed off the cliff of reason, but hey, stranger things have happened.

Nope. It has nothing to do with the subject. You wanna say models have problem confronting reality? Well sure go on, I'll agree on that with you no problem. That's not with this statement that I have a problem as it is a rather true statement!

Next,

Please look at the EXACT claim that I made, which for convenience you may call the "Pause Claim."  It has to do with satellite data, very specifically the lack of any statistically significant warming showed in a particular data set.

You are not refuting this claim, and neither are those you quote.  Rather you are just sort of talking side by side, like babies do when they play side by side with other babies.  Babies have not yet learned to play with others.

That's very simple and should be obvious.  Is it not?

Lol, so you're actually claiming people saying the rise of temperature is of 0.1° per decade are saying there is a pause in temperature increase...
What's obvious is that you quoted a shitty blog claiming scientists admited there was a pause in temperature increase, and when you look in the source of this shitty article you see that it's not the case. Not the case at all.

Apparently you are completely incapable of reading and comprehending.

[Anwary]

[HIGHLIGHT=#f6f6f6]Reddit has apparently decided they are serving the market of people who want to discuss the subject without the interjections of those who disagree. but i'm afraid that in the future will ban sub Reddit about architecture and decoration, i heard this rumor. [/HIGHLIGHT]

[valta4065]

Sure, you are just repeating misinformation.

First, let's look at the ACTUAL thing happening in the blog I suggested you look at.  Quoting the final paragraph is a nice way to get to the heart of the controversy.

Here’s Scientific American on the story yesterday:

    The disagreement may seem esoteric, but it underpins the biggest climate disagreement of the past decades. Climate models, which are virtual representations of our planet, project that temperatures were much higher in the early 2000s than was the case in reality. Scientists have been trying to understand why.

Here the question is the disagreement of climate models with reality.  So you don't even have the subject right, do you?  Strange that you blow the horn of triumph on your bicycle that just sailed off the cliff of reason, but hey, stranger things have happened.

Nope. It has nothing to do with the subject. You wanna say models have problem confronting reality? Well sure go on, I'll agree on that with you no problem. That's not with this statement that I have a problem as it is a rather true statement!

Next,

Please look at the EXACT claim that I made, which for convenience you may call the "Pause Claim."  It has to do with satellite data, very specifically the lack of any statistically significant warming showed in a particular data set.

You are not refuting this claim, and neither are those you quote.  Rather you are just sort of talking side by side, like babies do when they play side by side with other babies.  Babies have not yet learned to play with others.

That's very simple and should be obvious.  Is it not?

Lol, so you're actually claiming people saying the rise of temperature is of 0.1° per decade are saying there is a pause in temperature increase...
What's obvious is that you quoted a shitty blog claiming scientists admited there was a pause in temperature increase, and when you look in the source of this shitty article you see that it's not the case. Not the case at all.

Apparently you are completely incapable of reading and comprehending.

Or maybe you should read again what is your claim (temperature increase pause) and what the report is saying (current temperature increase).

[valta4065]

EDWARD SNOWDEN: “GLOBAL WARMING IS AN INVENTION OF THE CIA”


http://observatorial.com/2016/03/08/edward-snowden-global-warming-is-an-invention-of-the-cia/#

Ok so global conspiracy including false from everywhere and every scientist in the world?

Well. That sounds a bit like the flat Earth guys saying every scientist in the world is lying to you.

But he claims he got documents proving it. If that's right then I'm more than eager to look at them. And to change my opinion on the subject cause no global warming would be much better. It's just that no one came with actual argument until now.

[hdbuck]

EDWARD SNOWDEN: “GLOBAL WARMING IS AN INVENTION OF THE CIA”


http://observatorial.com/2016/03/08/edward-snowden-global-warming-is-an-invention-of-the-cia/#

Ok so global conspiracy including false from everywhere and every scientist in the world?

Well. That sounds a bit like the flat Earth guys saying every scientist in the world is lying to you.

But he claims he got documents proving it. If that's right then I'm more than eager to look at them. And to change my opinion on the subject cause no global warming would be much better. It's just that no one came with actual argument until now.

heh, the burden of the proof is on you believers.

but spendu already provided us with actual satellite metrics, highlighting a 'pause' if not a cooling.


but you seem more prone to line up behind subsidized scientists, 97% bold number outta some USgov think thank ass or whatver.

who gives a shit about changing your opinion, anyway, people are free to have their own. 

snowden or not, this AGW propaganda is an obvious sham.

now go save some penguins idiot.

[yugo23]

heh, the burden of the proof is on you believers.

but spendu already provided us with actual satellite metrics, highlighting a 'pause' if not a cooling.


but you seem more prone to line up behind subsidized scientists, 97% bold number outta some USgov think thank ass or whatver.

who gives a shit about changing your opinion, anyway, people are free to have their own. 

snowden or not, this AGW propaganda is an obvious sham.

now go save some penguins idiot.

Whaou, well would you care to give those proofs back? Because I never saw them that's for sure!

The satellite data he provided show a clear increase of temperature... Did I miss a link somewhere? Cause if yes don't hesitate to give the link back.

And the "burden of proof" is on believers and has been dealt with. Hundreds of studies show the increase of temperature, ice cap melting and the consequences...

[Spendulus]

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The satellite data he provided show a clear increase of temperature... Did I miss a link somewhere? Cause if yes don't hesitate to give the link back.
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You may indeed be missing some links, if not on the Internet perhaps in your thinking.

[TECSHARE]

I am seeing a lot of chatter on the net that Obama might push thru some legislation via executive orders or some other federal mandate before he leaves office forcing severe reductions in Co2 emissions output by putting the burdens on individual states. A lot of the recent rhetoric on the subject in the media relating to criminal and civil charges for arguing against man made global warming under rico statutes leads me to believe there might be some veracity to these claims. I don't really have any links on the subject because this is mostly just me piecing together bits of info I read here and there, but I thought it might be useful to some people to post it here so you can do your own research.

[hdbuck]

I am seeing a lot of chatter on the net that Obama might push thru some legislation via executive orders or some other federal mandate before he leaves office forcing severe reductions in Co2 emissions output by putting the burdens on individual states. A lot of the recent rhetoric on the subject in the media relating to criminal and civil charges for arguing against man made global warming under rico statutes leads me to believe there might be some veracity to these claims. I don't really have any links on the subject because this is mostly just me piecing together bits of info I read here and there, but I thought it might be useful to some people to post it here so you can do your own research.

you mean more taxes right?

[TECSHARE]

I am seeing a lot of chatter on the net that Obama might push thru some legislation via executive orders or some other federal mandate before he leaves office forcing severe reductions in Co2 emissions output by putting the burdens on individual states. A lot of the recent rhetoric on the subject in the media relating to criminal and civil charges for arguing against man made global warming under rico statutes leads me to believe there might be some veracity to these claims. I don't really have any links on the subject because this is mostly just me piecing together bits of info I read here and there, but I thought it might be useful to some people to post it here so you can do your own research.

you mean more taxes right?

Basically yes.

[valta4065]

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The satellite data he provided show a clear increase of temperature... Did I miss a link somewhere? Cause if yes don't hesitate to give the link back.
...

You may indeed be missing some links, if not on the Internet perhaps in your thinking.

Me I just don't understand how you can't interpret correctly a curve... I means that's the most basic thing existing!!!