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[TwitchySeal]

I start to play on betcoin.ag in november 2015, i try to find some pokerroom with cryptocoins(and fin it here on forums). Im make deposit in LiteCoins, play for a while than make withdraw, all was ok. Alot of peoples was online this time, about some thousands. In the end of november i saw that online now about few hundreds peoples. I try to withdraw my money and its not worked. I ask a support what the problem, they told me im a cheater o smth. Now i cant login to my account cause its blocked. They even didnt say something official to me in email about this situation. So this is a SCAM

What was your screen name on Betcoin.

[Betcoin.AG]

I start to play on betcoin.ag in november 2015, i try to find some pokerroom with cryptocoins(and fin it here on forums). Im make deposit in LiteCoins, play for a while than make withdraw, all was ok. Alot of peoples was online this time, about some thousands. In the end of november i saw that online now about few hundreds peoples. I try to withdraw my money and its not worked. I ask a support what the problem, they told me im a cheater o smth. Now i cant login to my account cause its blocked. They even didnt say something official to me in email about this situation. So this is a SCAM

What was your screen name on Betcoin.

Yes, Lakedra what is your Betcoin screename.  We will certainly get you taken care of.  I don't see any tickets or emails regarding this situation either.  Please submit a ticket to www.betcoin.ag/support for an immediate response.  Thank you. 

[TwitchySeal]

Update:

Shortly after the "Betcoin Poker Return of Overcharged Rake or Daily Coin Ticket" statement last week I was un-banned from Betcoin without explanation.  I decided to bump my ticket from Sept 1 about the missing rakeback and status points that I was missing from WPN mtts.  I explained the issue back in November in this thread as well - [LINK]

I was expecting them to ignore the issue the way they had so many times before, maybe even just re-ban me, so I was surprised when they replied with a promise to make this right within a few days and how much was I owed.  I responded 2.5-5 btc and a detailed summary of why. Here's my explanation, if anyone is interested - [LINK]

A few days later they gave me 3,000 chips and 6,000 status points with the following message:

We have reviewed your statements and play in detail and have credited you with 3,000 mbtc to your account. We have also added 6,530 status points as reflected by your statements. Since this time everything has been running smoothly on Betcoin and we hope that it continues to run smoothly for you as well. We are here anytime if you need us and we appreciate having you here at Betcoin.

Obviously I'm happy to have gotten paid, I had written it off long ago - and I didn't really know how to react to be honest.  I've been putting off making this post because if I'm going to be honest, it's going to make Betcoin look bad, and they just gave me a decent amount of money, it doesn't seem right to say bad things about someone who just gave you money.  I suspect this very thought process has helped Betcoin a great deal in the past.  It's also the reason for corruption all over the world.

Clearly this thought process is irrational.

• The money they gave me was mine all along - yet it's so easy to look at them as generous for returning it to me.
• I think it's extremely unlikely they actually reviewed my play at all, they told me the same thing 5 months ago before stating " we are absolutely certain your VIP numbers are correct."
• What about everyone else?  Surely I'm not the only one owed for WPN Rakeback (although I may be missing the most)
• After 6 months of insisting I was wrong, banning me, etc, they admit they were wrong and pay me - without any sort of apology are assurance that players don't have to worry about this kind of behavior from them in the future.  This is much greater an issue than 3 BTC should solve.

I know many will read all this and consider it just more Betcoin Bashing, but really I'm just being as honest as I possibly can. 

If Betcoin continues to try and mask how unorganized and corrupt they are with lies, they deserve to fail and we should help.  If they are willing to show their pure intentions with transparency and willingness to learn from their mistakes instead of try to get away with them, none of these issues would really be issues at all.  Just honest mistakes.

[marlais]

Just as a warning, I think that the people who compromised Betcoin's database are at it again. I received the following e-mail today. I removed my e-mail address/password/their referral link. I haven't heard of this site before and assume it is a scam.

Subject: Welcome to BitcoinCasino

From: BitcoinCasino <reg@bitcoincasino.ml>
To: [my Betcoin e-mail address]
Date: Mar 13, 2016 5:10:56 PM
Hi, you are invited to BitcoinCasino!

Login detail:
E-mail: [my Betcoin e-mail address]
Password: [removed]

Login link: http://bitcoincasino.ml/?e=[removed]
First Deposit Bonus:
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50% from 1.1 up to 5 BTC
75% from 5.1 up to 10 BTC
100% from 10.1 BTC

Thank you!
Regards, BitcoinCasino

[crazywack]

Might be another compromised site, I did not receive this email checked all my folders.

[marlais]

Just as a warning, I think that the people who compromised Betcoin's database are at it again. I received the following e-mail today. I removed my e-mail address/password/their referral link. I haven't heard of this site before and assume it is a scam.

Subject: Welcome to BitcoinCasino

From: BitcoinCasino <reg@bitcoincasino.ml>

Also, for the record, Mali gives away top level .ml domains for free. I  wouldn't trust a "casino" that won't even shell out a couple bucks to register a domain name in the country they are actually doing business in. Apparently, 6% of all .ml domains are phishing sites:

http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/mali-ml-domain-phishiest-tld-of-any-country-in-the-world-netcraft

[DarkDays]

Just as a warning, I think that the people who compromised Betcoin's database are at it again. I received the following e-mail today. I removed my e-mail address/password/their referral link. I haven't heard of this site before and assume it is a scam.

Subject: Welcome to BitcoinCasino

From: BitcoinCasino <reg@bitcoincasino.ml>
To: [my Betcoin e-mail address]
Date: Mar 13, 2016 5:10:56 PM
Hi, you are invited to BitcoinCasino!

Login detail:
E-mail: [my Betcoin e-mail address]
Password: [removed]

Login link: http://bitcoincasino.ml/?e=[removed]
First Deposit Bonus:
25% from 0.1 up to 1 BTC
50% from 1.1 up to 5 BTC
75% from 5.1 up to 10 BTC
100% from 10.1 BTC

Thank you!
Regards, BitcoinCasino

I got the exact same email yesterday, AND another phishing email from "blockchain".  I've been getting scam/phishing emails about 3 times a month since the "security breech".  It would be really nice to know what happened and what other sensitive information got compromised since it's clear that out personal information either got stolen or sold.

[TwitchySeal]

I can confirm this email was received by email address that was only ever given to Betcoin.

It's linked to what looks like a bitcasino.io or vegascasino (coin gaming) knock off that only has a cashier.  They are trying to get you to deposit to their casino without any games it seems.

Might be another compromised site, I did not receive this email checked all my folders.

Or you didn't bother to check your email and continue to defend Betcoin without any consideration as to whether or not your statement is true.  

1.2 mbtc per post, guess it adds up?

[crazywack]

I can confirm this email was received by email address that was only ever given to Betcoin.

It's linked to what looks like a bitcasino.io or vegascasino (coin gaming) knock off that only has a cashier.  They are trying to get you to deposit to their casino without any games it seems.

Might be another compromised site, I did not receive this email checked all my folders.

Or you didn't bother to check your email and continue to defend Betcoin without any consideration as to whether or not your statement is true.  

1.2 mbtc per post, guess it adds up?

It does add up, but no I went back a few days and didn't have anything. Unless my mailbox auto deleted it I never received it. The 2nd email everyone got I didn't get either. I did get the first.

[TwitchySeal]

It does add up, but no I went back a few days and didn't have anything. Unless my mailbox auto deleted it I never received it. The 2nd email everyone got I didn't get either. I did get the first.

Auto delete is a possibility.  They are usually in the spam box, sometimes marked as suspicious or something.


Here are some which other's have shared, all sent to masked email addresses which were only used when registering on Betcoin. 

[DarkDays]

I can confirm this email was received by email address that was only ever given to Betcoin.

It's linked to what looks like a bitcasino.io or vegascasino (coin gaming) knock off that only has a cashier.  They are trying to get you to deposit to their casino without any games it seems.

Might be another compromised site, I did not receive this email checked all my folders.

Or you didn't bother to check your email and continue to defend Betcoin without any consideration as to whether or not your statement is true.  

1.2 mbtc per post, guess it adds up?

It does add up, but no I went back a few days and didn't have anything. Unless my mailbox auto deleted it I never received it. The 2nd email everyone got I didn't get either. I did get the first.

What is your tier VIP level on Betcoin?  Mine is pretty high and I believe Twitchy's is as well, it's possible that whoever stole/sold our information is targeting high volume players.  I've gotten over a dozen of these phishing emails since the first one that everyone got and they seem to be increasing in volume in the past month or so.

[crazywack]

Only a bronze 1

[hopenotlate]

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What is your tier VIP level on Betcoin?  Mine is pretty high and I believe Twitchy's is as well, it's possible that whoever stole/sold our information is targeting high volume players.  I've gotten over a dozen of these phishing emails since the first one that everyone got and they seem to be increasing in volume in the past month or so.

WARNING - PISHING EMAIL ADDRESS INSIDE THIS POST


The bolded part could be an explanation to the fact I only received one pishing email in last week ( and yes I checked my email and bin and undesired mails folder - and my mail service doesn't have autoerase feature or what)).

But my email is not linked only to Betcoin but ids the one I mainly use for gambling purposes.

It came from this address:      Brenda Levy (LevyBrenda8304@triway.net.br)  (

with this subject:  FW: Payment Declined PIN-739263‏

and this message

Dear xxxxxx,

Our finance department has processed your payment, unfortunately it has been declined.

Please, double check the information provided in the invoice (attached to this mail) and confirm your details.

Thank you for understanding.

Brenda Levy
Financial Manager

_____________________________________________________________________________

The xxxxx one is my Betcoin username but also the part before @ of my email address so not sure wether they got it: therefore posted the sender email address to see if some other Betcoin user match this one.


Just my 1.2 mBTC  

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[ardi wijaya]

I want to ask .. if its mbtc 0, whether they could play in the freeroll. its a matter of fitting I click registering, can not,,, sorry i newbie. thk's.

[DarkDays]

The xxxxx one is my Betcoin username but also the part before @ of my email address so not sure wether they got it: therefore posted the sender email address to see if some other Betcoin user match this one.


Just my 1.2 mBTC  

Yes, that's the concerning part.  If the phishers ONLY had email addresses, it would be bad but the fact that they have emails + the corresponding user names means it's REALLY bad because that means that whoever stole or sold them had access to some sort of master database.  What I want to know is what else was on that database that was either stolen or sold?  I now feel like people's status points or at least VIP tier level was on there (which explains why different tier levels have gotten more or less phishing attempts) but what else?  IP addresses?  Passwords?  Private keys?

[hopenotlate]

The xxxxx one is my Betcoin username but also the part before @ of my email address so not sure wether they got it: therefore posted the sender email address to see if some other Betcoin user match this one.


Just my 1.2 mBTC  

Yes, that's the concerning part.  If the phishers ONLY had email addresses, it would be bad but the fact that they have emails + the corresponding user names means it's REALLY bad because that means that whoever stole or sold them had access to some sort of master database.  What I want to know is what else was on that database that was either stolen or sold?  I now feel like people's status points or at least VIP tier level was on there (which explains why different tier levels have gotten more or less phishing attempts) but what else?  IP addresses?  Passwords?  Private keys?

Just to be sure I made myself clear enough: my email is xxxxxx@email.com and my betcoijn username is the exact same xxxxxx.

The pishing email I received start with dear xxxxxx: but being it present in both betcoin and firt part of email address no one can tell for sure they got that xxxxxx from Betcoin data because many pishing email I also receive on other email addresses I use start with dear and the part before the @ ( don't know how its called in technical language).

Also, in my opinon, don't think it's likely that the pisher targets mainly upper VIP status and only in a second or third istance lower VIP players: they always use to fire as many bullets as they can (being that bullets free of charge) so that thay rely on large numbers law.

So back to my post and not to be exploited: has some other betcoin player received this same email?

It came from this address:      Brenda Levy (LevyBrenda8304@triway.net.br)  (

with this subject:  FW: Payment Declined PIN-739263‏

and this message

Dear xxxxxx,

Our finance department has processed your payment, unfortunately it has been declined.

Please, double check the information provided in the invoice (attached to this mail) and confirm your details.

Thank you for understanding.

Brenda Levy
Financial Manager


If so then we know something more, if not it is just one of the tons of pishing emails I recevie on every email address I use (job one included) and almost every person I know experience the same.

[Betcoin.AG]

I want to ask .. if its mbtc 0, whether they could play in the freeroll. its a matter of fitting I click registering, can not,,, sorry i newbie. thk's.

Drop by www.betcoin.ag/support and visit a live chat member or submit a ticket and we can get you taken care of and playing in the freerolls now!  We run freerolls all day everyday.  Good luck and tank you for choosing us.

[Betcoin.AG]

We want to thank all of our great signature campaign members and our great manager for performing an excellent job.  We will continue to provide an exceptional service for everyone involved.  As we continue to grow with our campaign members and Betcoin.ag as a company there will be those that attack you because you cannot please everyone.  Fortunately, each one of you can come experience Betcoin and our signature campaign for yourself and we will work very hard to show you why Betcoin.ag should be your home.  We truly appreciate all of you.  Most of our posters good and bad spend the most time at Betcoin and we appreciate them all the same.  Thank you very much again.

[DarkDays]

The xxxxx one is my Betcoin username but also the part before @ of my email address so not sure wether they got it: therefore posted the sender email address to see if some other Betcoin user match this one.


Just my 1.2 mBTC  

Yes, that's the concerning part.  If the phishers ONLY had email addresses, it would be bad but the fact that they have emails + the corresponding user names means it's REALLY bad because that means that whoever stole or sold them had access to some sort of master database.  What I want to know is what else was on that database that was either stolen or sold?  I now feel like people's status points or at least VIP tier level was on there (which explains why different tier levels have gotten more or less phishing attempts) but what else?  IP addresses?  Passwords?  Private keys?

Just to be sure I made myself clear enough: my email is xxxxxx@email.com and my betcoijn username is the exact same xxxxxx.

The pishing email I received start with dear xxxxxx: but being it present in both betcoin and firt part of email address no one can tell for sure they got that xxxxxx from Betcoin data because many pishing email I also receive on other email addresses I use start with dear and the part before the @ ( don't know how its called in technical language).

Also, in my opinon, don't think it's likely that the pisher targets mainly upper VIP status and only in a second or third istance lower VIP players: they always use to fire as many bullets as they can (being that bullets free of charge) so that thay rely on large numbers law.

So back to my post and not to be exploited: has some other betcoin player received this same email?

It came from this address:      Brenda Levy (LevyBrenda8304@triway.net.br)  (

with this subject:  FW: Payment Declined PIN-739263‏

and this message

Dear xxxxxx,

Our finance department has processed your payment, unfortunately it has been declined.

Please, double check the information provided in the invoice (attached to this mail) and confirm your details.

Thank you for understanding.

Brenda Levy
Financial Manager


If so then we know something more, if not it is just one of the tons of pishing emails I recevie on every email address I use (job one included) and almost every person I know experience the same.

Yes, there have been many people who had their username mentioned in the phishing emails where it was very different from their email address.  That's why everyone was able to pinpoint Betcoin as the culprit so quickly.

My theory is that since it's such a closed community, the people sending the phishing emails have to be selective, especially after the initial one was sniffed out so quickly.  If they send the same email to everyone, more people will talk to each other and say "I got that email also, it's a scam, don't even open it".  If they send out less emails, they have more of a chance of catching someone distratced/unaware of what's going on.  And if they are going to send less emails it makes sense to target people who are more likely to have the most bitcoins. 

I instantly delete all of the phishing emails, so I'm not positive but I don't recall getting one exactly like that from that fake name, but I know I have gotten one or two "payment accepted/payment declined" ones from the Betcoin attack.  The two most recent ones I got this week were from "blockchain" and "bitcoincasino".  But make no mistake: your personal information that you gave to Betcoin was stolen or sold by/to people who are using it to try to steal your coins.