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[Beefheart]

I would strongly advise not playing any WPN tourneys through Betcoin until they either fix/address the currently incorrect conversion prices they are using

[bitcoinnoisseur]

I would strongly advise not playing any WPN tourneys through Betcoin until they either fix/address the currently incorrect conversion prices they are using

Betcoin's price has still not changed since yesterday. It is still at $555.56 while the average between Bitstamp.net and Preev.com is ~ $655. Lying, scheming scumbags.

[TwitchySeal]

We still have some spots open for select members in our great campaign and want to thank everyone for their interest.  Also, please keep up the great, high quality posts, we appreciate your involvement!

They are only posting in shill campaign thread.

Come join the fun.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

I call BULLSHIT! They haven't ever done a damn thing to make it automated. I was told over a year ago that they were working on getting it done. All of a sudden now they find out that WPN programmers must fix it? Exactly WTF have they done on this quest if they just found that out now? They just got caught with their pants down and are scrambling for a way out and trying to make it look like they've been working so hard to get it done.

WPN Tourney Bitcoin Exchange Rate

In our continuing quest to have the bitcoin exchange rate automated and work in real time for buyins with the WPN tournaments, there was a recent error that caused it to crash and it clearly has not changed. This is top priority to us, however it must be fixed by WPN programmers who are working on the issue.

We will also have them add a feature that we can use to adjust the exchange rate manually on our end if this ever happens again. We do not know the eta on this but we certainly don't want our great players to have to deal with his issue and we certainly don't want there to be any problems anytime ever.

We thank you as always for playing with us and wish you the best of luck!

https://www.betcoin.ag/wpn-tourney-bitcoin-exchange-rate

[Betcoin.AG]

WPN Tourney Bitcoin Exchange Rate

https://www.betcoin.ag/wpn-tourney-bitcoin-exchange-rate

In our continuing quest to have the bitcoin exchange rate automated and work in real time for buyins with the WPN tournaments, there was a recent error that caused it to crash and it clearly has not changed. This is top priority to us, however it must be fixed by WPN programmers who are working on the issue.

We will also have them add a feature that we can use to adjust the exchange rate manually on our end if this ever happens again. We do not know the eta on us being able to manually fix it but we certainly don't want our great players to have to deal with his issue and we certainly don't want there to be any problems anytime ever.

We thank you as always for playing with us and wish you the best of luck!

[TwitchySeal]

Bullshit called.

You're also still actively researching how scammers got into your database last Jan right?

[Betcoin.AG]

The policy from the beginning as advised by parent company was to not respond to forum posts that are not constructive, which our parent doesn't do.  We tried to take a different approach, but when a player who claims to not like our site spends more time on our website than any other player and nearly as much time as staff and spams it with usernames like "faggot" and "LotsaPenises" as well as tries to impersonate members of the bitcoin community like Theymos we have to draw the line.

Following is just a sampling of one users accounts created over a 3 day period (There are literally over 200 more). 

You can probably guess what user it is. 

We will leave it to you to judge the users credibility.

User Last Login
sopro 1 min 39 sec
faggot 12 min 44 sec
TheRegulatr 46 min 34 sec
twitchyseal2111 49 min 2 sec
PantsSaggy 2 hours 53 min
OHJESSICAYEAH 5 hours 13 min
LotsaPenises 5 hours 26 min
twitchyseal202 5 hours 50 min
twitchyseal819 9 hours 57 min
Twitchyseal81 10 hours 40 min
twitchyseal78 13 hours 49 min
twitchyseal771 1 day 5 hours
OHYEAH64 1 day 6 hours
TruthySeal 2 days 32 min
HOHYEAH 2 days 2 hours
zzezzzzz 2 days 4 hours
zzzzzzzee 2 days 4 hours
plo8monstah 2 days 4 hours
plo8muncher8 2 days 4 hours
zzzzzeee 2 days 4 hours
zzzzzzs 2 days 5 hours
Theymos 2 days 8 hours
TwitchyTruthyABC 2 days 14 hours
TwitchyTruthy 2 days 14 hours
zzzzzzzzz 2 days 15 hours
twitchysealdeaux 2 days 15 hours
OHYEAH 2 days 19 hours

[TwitchySeal]

I also encourage anyone who questions my credibility to speak up, I'm willing to be reasonable, respond to all questions and stand behind everything I've said about Betcoin.

Betcoin,
You would be disputing my allegations if you could, but instead this is all you can do.

Imagine if you spent the time trying to silence me on fixing the issues I refuse to let you bury?

I'll make a thousand more accounts if I have to, you can't shut me up.  Sorry. (no I'm not)

Or you could take the gto road and head over to the scam accusation forum, accept responsibility, and try to start making things right.  

[DarkDays]

WPN Tourney Bitcoin Exchange Rate

So you are confirming that what I showed about you lying about your exchange rate is true.  That's a (very very small) step in the right direction. 

I notice, however, that you've ignored my questions about your plagiarism.  Why?

Also you mention your "parent company".  Who is this? 

Oh, also, will you be refunding your loyal customers (who you claim to be there for) who were mischarged by your incorrect conversion rate?  Seems like everyone who has lost money on WTN tournaments since your "error" is due compensation, since you charged them too much on all of their tournament buy ins.  When should your loyal players expect these refunds to hit their accounts?

Please don't ignore or deflect my questions.  Please be there for me.  Here are the questions again:

1. Why did you commit plagiarism?

2. Who is your parent company?

3. When will you be refunding the players who were overcharged due to the error you just admitted to?

[hawks87]

Another Saturday morning and the site is down. Great work betcoin.

[bitcoin_stealer]

please fix your website betcoin!

 

[Bitstance]

please fix your website betcoin!

 

Just signed up to figure this out. Won a good amount in a tourney after just joining betcoin and the wallet and website are down. They don't respond to emails...yet This common for this place? Also their casino gave me an error after placing a bet on blackjack. Came back and money was gone. Just want my money and move on to a reliable site.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

More blatant lies from Betcoin.

Betcoin Andrew: We will certainly suggest16 hours 58 min ago
We will certainly suggest that. This is clearly a problem if we could fix we would do so immediately and we will work to get the tools to do so immediately. We thought it was fixed and in real time which it was for the past 10 days. We are here for you and thank you very much.

Let me say this again: I have checked Betcoin's exchange rate almost every day for the last 3-4 months in the morning, afternoon and evening and have never once seen it change more than once a day. Betcoin has never done a single thing to get their exchange rate to work in real-time until they got caught and pressured here. Why don't you just stop lying already, face the facts and stop insulting everyone's intelligence?

[Betcoin.AG]

WPN Tourney Bitcoin Exchange Rate

https://www.betcoin.ag/wpn-tourney-bitcoin-exchange-rate

In our continuing quest to have the bitcoin exchange rate automated and work in real time for buyins with the WPN tournaments, there was a recent error that caused it to crash and it clearly has not changed. This is top priority to us, however it must be fixed by WPN programmers who are working on the issue.

We will also have them add a feature that we can use to adjust the exchange rate manually on our end if this ever happens again. We do not know the eta on us being able to manually fix it but we certainly don't want our great players to have to deal with his issue and we certainly don't want there to be any problems anytime ever.

We thank you as always for playing with us and wish you the best of luck!

We have been monitoring this since the fix on Friday and it seems to be working in real time.  Should there ever be an error in this again, please contact us immediately.  Thank you. 

[DarkDays]

Oh noes!  You seemed to have missed my very clear, very easy to answer questions.  All of which were based on things that you yourself said.  If you could please be there for me and answer them now, I'd really appreciate it.

1. Why did you commit plagiarism?

2. Who is your parent company?

3. When will you be refunding the players who were overcharged due to the error you just admitted to?

[bitcoinnoisseur]

WPN Tourney Bitcoin Exchange Rate

https://www.betcoin.ag/wpn-tourney-bitcoin-exchange-rate

In our continuing quest to have the bitcoin exchange rate automated and work in real time for buyins with the WPN tournaments, there was a recent error that caused it to crash and it clearly has not changed. This is top priority to us, however it must be fixed by WPN programmers who are working on the issue.

We will also have them add a feature that we can use to adjust the exchange rate manually on our end if this ever happens again. We do not know the eta on us being able to manually fix it but we certainly don't want our great players to have to deal with his issue and we certainly don't want there to be any problems anytime ever.

We thank you as always for playing with us and wish you the best of luck!

http://www.betcoin.ag/files/betcoin/images/3778c421a9[1].jpg

We have been monitoring this since the fix on Friday and it seems to be working in real time.  Should there ever be an error in this again, please contact us immediately.  Thank you.  

Is it that you just don't comprehend what "in real time" means? Betcoin's BTC exchange rate for WPN tourneys right now is 1,000 / 1.62 = $617.28 and it hasn't changed once all day and it has never changed more than once a day.

But according to you:

for your "on the fly" conversions, but BTC exchange do you reference to do it?

We currently blend bitstamp and btc-e and take the average.  Thank you.  

BTC-e??... low volume and the one of exchanges who offers an average of 4% less than others (per the Winkdex) for USD... well played Betcoin, you make a nice profit off the backs of your players simply on the buy-in (plus the wonky RB for WPN tourneys)... and then even a percentage of the winnings if a Betcoin player wins!

I actually stand corrected and should have confirmed with programming before typing as it is bitstamp.net and preev.com, but thank you for helping me clarify this.  

However, here are the prices:

BTC @ Bitstamp = $647.65
BTC @ Preev.com = $646.40

Average = $647.03

So once again, can you please stop lying and insulting everyone's intelligence? This is getting utterly ridiculous.

[DarkDays]

We have been monitoring this since the fix on Friday and it seems to be working in real time.  Should there ever be an error in this again, please contact us immediately.  Thank you. 

Interesting.  Let's see if this is accurate:

18:38, $10+1 MTT:



19:00, $5+.50 MTT:



20:05, $10+1 MTT:



21:07, $5+.50 MTT:



So you're telling me that in 2.5 hours, the price of bitcoin didn't change one single cent?  AMAZING!

Or...are you just lying again?



Also please remember that you still have yet to answer my questions posed DAYS ago:

1. Why did you commit plagiarism?

2. Who is your parent company?

3. When will you be refunding the players who were overcharged due to the error you just admitted to?

[Daffadile]

If you admit to your mistake then go through with it and correct it, companies that make excuses only annoy people but if you are honest you will actually earn the respect of your members and they will remain loyal. I see many comments about all sorts of problems and accusations. You need to clear this up. If you can then it was a simple misunderstanding and you honored your side, if you don't then you prove the people commenting and accusations true.

[Nubitcoinerr]

If you admit to your mistake then go through with it and correct it, companies that make excuses only annoy people but if you are honest you will actually earn the respect of your members and they will remain loyal. I see many comments about all sorts of problems and accusations. You need to clear this up. If you can then it was a simple misunderstanding and you honored your side, if you don't then you prove the people commenting and accusations true.

Heh very true. Betcoin is like most US inner cities.... can find cheap housing and good night life but shits broken down everywhere and you might get robbed at night 

[DarkDays]

If you admit to your mistake then go through with it and correct it, companies that make excuses only annoy people but if you are honest you will actually earn the respect of your members and they will remain loyal. I see many comments about all sorts of problems and accusations. You need to clear this up. If you can then it was a simple misunderstanding and you honored your side, if you don't then you prove the people commenting and accusations true.

More and more people are starting to come around to the realization that Betcoin's silence on these issues speaks volumes.  Honestly, at this point, with all of the WTN skins taking bitcoin deposits and withdraws, you'd have to be a MASSIVE sucker to trust Betcoin with your money.  There are just too many unanswered questions and shaky security!