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July 17, 2014, 04:18:00 PM
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Hey guys

I had shares expire yesterday how long does it take for the money to show up in my account so i can re buy?
Last time a share of mine expired (a week ago) it took 20 hours to get sent to cash wallet. Cashouts to processor (bitcoin) have never taken more than 1 working day.

Thank you

It should be just after midnight, UK time.

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July 21, 2014, 04:21:44 PM
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Has anyone talked to the owners via phone and or in person. Besides email.

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July 22, 2014, 07:31:14 AM
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I think this guy yonce got a hidden agenda. It is a know fact among the HYIP players that HYIPs are in a very deep depression since a while already. We should just ignore him and he will stop giving us useless lessons here. He is a scammer who think with his badmouthing he can bring over clients to his shady HYIP world and can damage the reputation of BT. Considering the fact that BT currently has around 3,200 clients and only about two dozen or so are participating here, his "little plan" will not work out. So nothing to worry about, just chill out and ignore this lowlife.
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July 22, 2014, 05:24:33 PM
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I think this guy yonce got a hidden agenda. It is a know fact among the HYIP players that HYIPs are in a very deep depression since a while already. We should just ignore him and he will stop giving us useless lessons here. He is a scammer who think with his badmouthing he can bring over clients to his shady HYIP world and can damage the reputation of BT. Considering the fact that BT currently has around 3,200 clients and only about two dozen or so are participating here, his "little plan" will not work out. So nothing to worry about, just chill out and ignore this lowlife.
Why are we getting those accusations from newly created accounts? In every single HYIP post, a big % of the posts comes from acounts that post for their first time in the thread. Isn't that a bit suspicius?

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July 24, 2014, 01:46:20 AM
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Have you guys seen their recent newsletter?
https://bitcoin-trader.biz/newsletters/newsletter-23-07-2014.html

I really find it strange that they couldn't send their own employees to the conference.
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July 24, 2014, 02:52:14 AM
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Have you guys seen their recent newsletter?
https://bitcoin-trader.biz/newsletters/newsletter-23-07-2014.html

I really find it strange that they couldn't send their own employees to the conference.

I've been watching these guys for 6 months invested a descent amount and after share expiration I just couldn't bring myself to re-invest.  They are doing an incredibly good job of looking legit but my gut just says they are another hype.  I have no proof the payouts are consistent but in the wording of some of there announcements the responses on facebook etc along with the lack of any solid proof and avoiding any personal public appearances etc,  I just get a bad feeling. 
If they go ahead with the solvency validation and we can verify the company and/or parties that perform it are legit then I'll reinvest in a heart beat.  For now though I just caution people to be careful. Just my two Satoshi's.
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July 24, 2014, 06:52:54 AM
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I've been watching these guys for 6 months invested a descent amount and after share expiration I just couldn't bring myself to re-invest. 

I did, they look legit and their scheme is sustainable. Since by now they have enough capital to do arbitrage and daily interest range is 0.6-0.8% in my book they are no longer a ponzi scheme but just another highly volatile risky venture.

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July 24, 2014, 07:35:02 AM
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It's no more legit than it ever was, they are just paying you less to make the ponzi last longer.
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July 24, 2014, 07:44:23 AM
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It's no more legit than it ever was, they are just paying you less to make the ponzi last longer.

This kind of arguement is pretty stupid as it can be applied to any entity issuing bonds or similar financial instruments. If you are an investor it is common to float with the boat and eventually run when the ship begins to sink.

Their activity, both financial and social, is on par with the one from major organizations. I am not urging anyone to invest as I am not a professional financial advisor.

However... fact checking: @240 calendar days of compounding interest I withdrawn ~180% 3 days ago. To everyone its own.


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July 24, 2014, 08:03:54 AM
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However... fact checking: @240 calendar days of compounding interest I withdrawn ~180% 3 days ago. To everyone its own.

The average ponzi lasts 5.3 years and usually gives a much lower profit than BT is giving now. http://www.marquetinternational.com/pdf/marquet_report_on_ponzi_schemes.pdf

You won't find any public company where you can expect anywhere near this kind of profit compared to invested amount.
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July 24, 2014, 08:07:37 AM
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You won't find any public company where you can expect anywhere near this kind of profit compared to invested amount.

When you are burdened by government taxes it is impossibile. Only banks and financial institutions have this kind of profit.

Anyway... let's hope I'll pull it out early enough then.  Smiley

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July 24, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
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Ive got roughly 1 month to go before mine expire. Fingers crossed it all stays as it is until then.
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July 24, 2014, 08:52:25 AM
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Ive got roughly 1 month to go before mine expire. Fingers crossed it all stays as it is until then.

There is no reason to expect such a crash, nor they have any reason to steal your funds. It would be plain stupid when you have a profitable venture and faces were shown.

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July 24, 2014, 08:56:29 AM
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As I have stated in my thread, I hope we all reach ROI soon.
I can confirm everything works fine for now, I reached my ROI yesterday, got my principal back.

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July 24, 2014, 05:42:11 PM
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Updates on the Panama registration and our Proof of Solvency will be posted sometimes tomorrow.

Posted on FB group 1 hour ago

PS : i didnt invested yet
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July 24, 2014, 08:13:38 PM
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Updates on the Panama registration and our Proof of Solvency will be posted sometimes tomorrow.

Posted on FB group 1 hour ago

PS : i didnt invested yet

Can u link that?

I dont see it on: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bitcoin-Trader/1428584610697680
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July 24, 2014, 08:46:37 PM
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Updates on the Panama registration and our Proof of Solvency will be posted sometimes tomorrow.

Posted on FB group 1 hour ago

PS : i didnt invested yet

Can u link that?

I dont see it on: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bitcoin-Trader/1428584610697680


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July 24, 2014, 09:29:14 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2014, 09:41:41 PM by HackaB321
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Hi. I've just made a mistake in litecoin deposit. I've not deposited exactly the right amount of LTC (there is a 0.002 LTC difference). What can I do? my BT's account has zero balance and ltc has been resend to other two unknown addresses.

my BT address:
http://block-explorer.com/address/LfDpyswLUG9ALmJfbnNATFnKVpZLDkcCM7

deposit transaction
http://block-explorer.com/tx/98eb4aa4c1430d2ee0e4b4837727b531a72cae5d23ecc280974b9f271a1ec1f8

money resend to other two addresses
http://block-explorer.com/tx/cb758d35d464f52ab80b5ca264cf5b1d745241fe12fe1fc744b67c76891c5752

I've opened a ticket but still worried about my money
Any advise?
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July 24, 2014, 09:43:24 PM
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u will get help only by sending them support ticket, posting here your transactions wont help u at all
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July 24, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
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u will get help only by sending them support ticket, posting here your transactions wont help u at all

Ok thanks, I've sent a ticket. Simply don't understand why they want users deposit exactly a declared amount. I mean, why not accepting a generic deposit like any other site? Someone had similar issues in the past?

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