[ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread

[nakaone]

in my opinion before doing "marketing" a kind of branding of xcp/counterparty is neccessary - bountiful had a very good approach about what xcp/counterparty is in the forum:

I would start with words that best describe the Counterparty community, the developer team, and the mission of the code and the project. For example, here are my words that come to mind when I think about the community:
Fast
Trustless
Burn
Proof
Peer to Peer
Decentralized
OpenSourced
CommunityDriven
Innovative
Github
Forums
Discussion
Build
Bet
Assets
Issuance

taken from: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?action=post;quote=1245;topic=180.0

anyway i do not want to discourage making a video and will likely donate for it, but we need to make sure what we are promoting

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[halfcab123]

The dogecoin animation gave me a great laugh. I think those animated videos may be outside the scope of what I do. But I do have some animated type editors so I will see if I can make something and show you guys and see what you think.

[halfcab123]

We don't even have an acceptable logo yet though right ?

[bitwhizz]

We don't even have an acceptable logo yet though right ?

its being changed?
 whatever we can do to help you with your video halfcab - please let us know,

in my opinion before doing "marketing" a kind of branding of xcp/counterparty is neccessary - bountiful had a very good approach about what xcp/counterparty is in the forum:

taken from: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?action=post;quote=1245;topic=180.0

anyway i do not want to discourage making a video and will likely donate for it, but we need to make sure what we are promoting

Branding is important , and that does need to be ironed out

[halfcab123]

We don't even have an acceptable logo yet though right ?

Well whatever we can do to help you with your video - please let us know,

Branding is important as nakaone pointed out, and that does need to be ironed out

I'll Get Started Storyboarding ASAP.
Is there any bounty raised yet ? Maybe I'll make a
Teaser to get the bounty started eh?

[bitwhizz]

We don't even have an acceptable logo yet though right ?

Well whatever we can do to help you with your video - please let us know,

Branding is important as nakaone pointed out, and that does need to be ironed out

I'll Get Started Storyboarding ASAP.
Is there any bounty raised yet ? Maybe I'll make a
Teaser to get the bounty started eh?

No bounty raised yet, idea has only been introduced today

Tirapon and myself will put in 100 xcp each

[bitexch]

We don't even have an acceptable logo yet though right ?

Well whatever we can do to help you with your video - please let us know,

Branding is important as nakaone pointed out, and that does need to be ironed out

I'll Get Started Storyboarding ASAP.
Is there any bounty raised yet ? Maybe I'll make a
Teaser to get the bounty started eh?

No bounty raised yet, idea has only been introduced today

Tirapon and myself will put in 100 xcp each

I think calling it a bounty takes away the community aspect of it. People should definitely be rewarded for their work, but making it a competition seems like the wrong way of going about it. We should be working together.

[bitwhizz]

its not a competition, but video makers should  be rewarded for their time (as you pointed out), and some  might need to be paid upront as appose to a 'bounty' style' , (animation pros)
it depends in which direction we are taking this
the term bounty i guess sounds a bit competitive, perhaps another term should be used


-- Half cab - a teaser sounds awesome

[nakaone]

We don't even have an acceptable logo yet though right ?

Well whatever we can do to help you with your video - please let us know,

Branding is important as nakaone pointed out, and that does need to be ironed out

I'll Get Started Storyboarding ASAP.
Is there any bounty raised yet ? Maybe I'll make a
Teaser to get the bounty started eh?

No bounty raised yet, idea has only been introduced today

Tirapon and myself will put in 100 xcp each

the only coin, including bitcoin, which has a strong branding is doge: this indeed is partly given by their meme, which is nothing like a new form of culture. i do not think that it is their swarms or their massive marketing (nxt etc. are trying that too and are more or less failing). it is the idea that they exactly know what doge is and what it is useful for.

we have brilliant developers and a very strong/nameful auditing, additional this text http://www.ofnumbers.com/2014/03/04/chapter-3-next-generation-platforms/ quotes a well known professor in stanford to xcp. and by the technical nature of this product it probably makes sense to brand it as something elitist/superior (just my suggestion).

anyway bountiful told that he is a professional regarding branding, he is widely active here and on counterparty.co - maybe he could talk to the main developers about their idea of xcp in mid/long term and than suggest an idea how to brand xcp/counterparty.

[NWO]

I think we should also have a simple video which conveys the key features of XCP to the laymen.

Similar to what is on the homepage of Ripple.com or the classic What is Bitcoin video.

[sparta_cuss]

[Marketing]

If you do want to do a use case on Bitcoin Tangible Trust, I think it would make sense to contact them for either a video interview (Skype, perhaps) or an email exchange interview. (Interviews provide great material, since, if you spend some time and forethought crafting great questions, you get the interviewee to provide compelling content and make your arguments for you.)

They recently contacted Counterparty via this thread and asked for our feedback on their services. They must have been in touch with the devs prior to this in order to implement XCP, don't you think? The point is, they seem very interested in having a productive dialogue with CP in order to develop their services and their business in general. It might benefit both CP and BTT to create a video advertisement together, parts of which we could each use. Like CP, they are young and inventive, and this is one of the demographics that CP can appeal to.

Edit: I would be happy to help develop these questions, and think through how this interview might work. I don't have programming expertise, so I am approaching this as an investor in both cryptocurrencies and precious metals.

[user1922]

Thanks to the help I got here I am now running the counterparty client on an old Atom system running Ubuntu 12.04. Took me almost 3 days to get counterparty in sync with the bitcoin network

So I tried the faucet a week ago, sending me 0.2 XCP. Today I could finally see for myself if it arrived and it did. So, as a further test I tried to transfer 0.2 XCP to an exchange XCP wallet. But, it didn't work? It got the following message:
'Insufficient bitcoins at address xxx. (Need 0.0003715 BTC.)'
Looking at blockscan.com the faucet sent me 0.0001086 BTC, so the message seems correct.

But now my question is: is 0.2 XCP now different from 0.2 XCP a week ago? I would expect 0.2 XCP to *stay* 0.2 XCP but this message suspects me to believe otherwise 

[cityglut]

Thanks to the help I got here I am now running the counterparty client on an old Atom system running Ubuntu 12.04. Took me almost 3 days to get counterparty in sync with the bitcoin network

So I tried the faucet a week ago, sending me 0.2 XCP. Today I could finally see for myself if it arrived and it did. So, as a further test I tried to transfer 0.2 XCP to an exchange XCP wallet. But, it didn't work? It got the following message:
'Insufficient bitcoins at address xxx. (Need 0.0003715 BTC.)'
Looking at blockscan.com the faucet sent me 0.0001086 BTC, so the message seems correct.

But now my question is: is 0.2 XCP now different from 0.2 XCP a week ago? I would expect 0.2 XCP to *stay* 0.2 XCP but this message suspects me to believe otherwise 

Multi-sig transactions require that there be between .0001 and .0004 BTC at an address, depending on the kind of transaction you would like make.

[TheMightyX]

I think that making an intro video interviewing people is going to be a bit boring and you are going to be losing peoples interest.
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.

The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.

Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.

Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.

Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:

• What: a method of creating complex transactions and financial derivatives among other things as well as storing and sending wealth.
• Who: Originally made by a team of developers, CP is open-source and developed by the community.
• Where: Counterparty can be run from any computer connected to the internet. No need for banks, brokers and exchanges.
• When: Counterparty is two months old, still in its infancy, with a very bright future ahead.
• Why: The current de-facto method of transfering and storing wealth online (bitcoin) is great, but is limited in scope. Where bitcoin aims to replace corrupt and malicious financial systems, counterparty aims to replace many corrupt pillars of the financial world entirely in a safe and secure manner.
  
  

In fact, if you can directly emulate the animated what is bitcoin video it would be most successful.

[halfcab123]

I think that making an intro video interviewing people is going to be a bit boring and you are going to be losing peoples interest.
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.

The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.

Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.

Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.

Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:

• What: a method of creating complex transactions and financial derivatives among other things as well as storing and sending wealth.
• Who: Originally made by a team of developers, CP is open-source and developed by the community.
• Where: Counterparty can be run from any computer connected to the internet. No need for banks, brokers and exchanges.
• When: Counterparty is two months old, still in its infancy, with a very bright future ahead.
• Why: The current de-facto method of transfering and storing wealth online (bitcoin) is great, but is limited in scope. Where bitcoin aims to replace corrupt and malicious financial systems, counterparty aims to replace many corrupt pillars of the financial world entirely in a safe and secure manner.
  
  

In fact, if you can directly emulate the animated what is bitcoin video it would be most successful.

Ok so after watching the bitcoin video several times I've come to the conclusion that, in its extreme detail it is outside the scope of my abilities, I can definitely do a real film but the animated short that I would out together would look like but be notably shorter and much better than this How Bitcoin Works Under the Hood: http://youtu.be/Lx9zgZCMqXE

I can do something like that, that is shorter and higher quality ... I think certainly based on the incredible feedback you guys have given I would like to make 3 or 4 different videos based on your suggested approaches.

Edit: is xnova or someone of technical knowledge in direct relation to counterparty willing to do a Skype or phone consultation before I begin storyboarding ?

[akann46]

I think that making an intro video interviewing people is going to be a bit boring and you are going to be losing peoples interest.
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.

The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.

Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.

Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.

Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:

• What: a method of creating complex transactions and financial derivatives among other things as well as storing and sending wealth.
• Who: Originally made by a team of developers, CP is open-source and developed by the community.
• Where: Counterparty can be run from any computer connected to the internet. No need for banks, brokers and exchanges.
• When: Counterparty is two months old, still in its infancy, with a very bright future ahead.
• Why: The current de-facto method of transfering and storing wealth online (bitcoin) is great, but is limited in scope. Where bitcoin aims to replace corrupt and malicious financial systems, counterparty aims to replace many corrupt pillars of the financial world entirely in a safe and secure manner.
  
  

In fact, if you can directly emulate the animated what is bitcoin video it would be most successful.

+1

Should be like, Sell me this pen.

[PhantomPhreak]

Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums

[bitexch]

Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums

Do you mean that it will temporarily be lowered to 0.5 XCP and be raised back up, or that it may again be lowered later?

[PhantomPhreak]

Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums

Do you mean that it will temporarily be lowered to 0.5 XCP and be raised back up, or that it may again be lowered later?

It may be changed again later, and it will be switched to being determined by proof-of-stake voting.

[deliciousowl]

I don't think the fee should be destroyed. It would be a much better idea to pay it to Bitcoin miners or XCP holders. No? Maybe I don't understand it well enough.

But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.