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February 11, 2014, 10:32:52 PM
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i don't see Microcoin on the list. I see a "MacroCoin".. don't vote up the one with the similar name  Lips sealed
Yes there is no microCoin. I think dev don't hold so many micros Smiley

                 
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February 11, 2014, 10:34:05 PM
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sweet, good job man. Everyone vote it up, and if ya got time register to give more votes, 3 and 6 votes per hour.
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February 11, 2014, 11:37:00 PM
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done Wink

https://www.mintpal.com/voting

go there and vote for microcoin

Aww, you beat me to it. Smiley

RIP Bittrex
RIP Poloniex
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February 12, 2014, 12:29:40 AM
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Get your alcurEX shares! The money gained from this will be for microCoin/alcurEX development.

Buy alcurEx shares:
https://cryptostocks.com/securities/90

Learn about alcurEX:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458732.0
http://alcurex.info
We have added a simple share profit calculator, which you can use to calculate how much you will get for your investment. You will need to add the amount of total shares owned by public manually.
http://alcurex.info/share-profit-calculator/
How can you calculate profit without knowing profit of the exchange?
You need to buy crystal ball  Grin
I hope our exchange will make good profit for all investors)))
Me too.
BTW calculator seems updated with current "shares sold now" ticker
So help me out here:

1) Sell "shares" for a piece of an upcoming exchange's profits
2) Create exchange
3) Hopefully the exchange does well...
4) Profit!

Seriously, alcurEx being listed on Cryptostocks doesn't help much with trading MRC right now. What sort of volume can we expect from alcurEx? No one knows. Hey, if you buy 10BTC worth of alcurEx right now, you'll have 85% of public alcurEx shares! If the site manages to do 20 BTC of volume per month, you'd be raking in the the BTC! But if the exchange sucks, or gets hacked, or whatever.... Damn. Almost makes me think it's worth a risk of a few BTC. Almost. Hahaha.

Question: What commission percentage will alcurEx charge on trades? If it's 0.2% as an example, and you manage a trade volume of 10 BTC per day, then we're talking about exchange revenue of 0.02 BTC per day. That's 0.6 BTC per month so investors wouldn't break even, at least not in the first year. If on the other hand alcurEx can match some decent smaller exchange like Coins-e, Poloniex, Coinmarket, etc. that does around 100 BTC per day, we're talking about 0.2 BTC per day in revenue or 6 BTC per month, of which 25% is up for grab by investors? That's 1.5 BTC per month. If you invest 1 BTC right now (1000 shares) and only 10,000 shares total are purchased, you'd be looking at 0.15 BTC per month.

Am I missing something? Also, what is the time frame for this initial IPO? "A limited time" doesn't tell us much.

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February 12, 2014, 01:34:20 AM
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Get your alcurEX shares! The money gained from this will be for microCoin/alcurEX development.

Buy alcurEx shares:
https://cryptostocks.com/securities/90

Learn about alcurEX:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458732.0
http://alcurex.info
We have added a simple share profit calculator, which you can use to calculate how much you will get for your investment. You will need to add the amount of total shares owned by public manually.
http://alcurex.info/share-profit-calculator/
How can you calculate profit without knowing profit of the exchange?
You need to buy crystal ball  Grin
I hope our exchange will make good profit for all investors)))
Me too.
BTW calculator seems updated with current "shares sold now" ticker
So help me out here:

1) Sell "shares" for a piece of an upcoming exchange's profits
2) Create exchange
3) Hopefully the exchange does well...
4) Profit!

Seriously, alcurEx being listed on Cryptostocks doesn't help much with trading MRC right now. What sort of volume can we expect from alcurEx? No one knows. Hey, if you buy 10BTC worth of alcurEx right now, you'll have 85% of public alcurEx shares! If the site manages to do 20 BTC of volume per month, you'd be raking in the the BTC! But if the exchange sucks, or gets hacked, or whatever.... Damn. Almost makes me think it's worth a risk of a few BTC. Almost. Hahaha.

Question: What commission percentage will alcurEx charge on trades? If it's 0.2% as an example, and you manage a trade volume of 10 BTC per day, then we're talking about exchange revenue of 0.02 BTC per day. That's 0.6 BTC per month so investors wouldn't break even, at least not in the first year. If on the other hand alcurEx can match some decent smaller exchange like Coins-e, Poloniex, Coinmarket, etc. that does around 100 BTC per day, we're talking about 0.2 BTC per day in revenue or 6 BTC per month, of which 25% is up for grab by investors? That's 1.5 BTC per month. If you invest 1 BTC right now (1000 shares) and only 10,000 shares total are purchased, you'd be looking at 0.15 BTC per month.

Am I missing something? Also, what is the time frame for this initial IPO? "A limited time" doesn't tell us much.
Actually, investors get 50% of profit. And it is stated very clearly in big text that the IPO ends when the exchange is launched, which will be by the end of the month. These shares are clearly meant for long-term investing. You're also missing that usually the shares sold are only fee shares with a very small percentage and have no promised ownership or other rights. If you have questions that haven't been answered yet, I'll be glad to answer them. This is how IPOs and fee share sales work and our deal is significantly more considerate of investors than any of the other exchange share sales I have seen. People usually buy shares because of speculating also. You should see Cryptsy, Coinex, Vircurex, Altswap and mcxnow fee share sales for reference if you want to decide if this will be a smart investment or not.
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February 12, 2014, 01:50:16 AM
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and you manage a trade volume of 10 BTC per day,
Am I missing something?
Well yes you are missing.. There is no any market under 10 BTC/day volume, exept poor crycurex.
Even MRC day volume on poloniex is 5 BTC today, and micro is not top tradet coin... yet Smiley
Coins-e daytrade... even Doge only is around 100BTC today.
I see you don't really believe altcoins will become more popular Shocked
I believe it will.

                 
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February 12, 2014, 04:42:44 AM
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done Wink

https://www.mintpal.com/voting

go there and vote for microcoin

Aww, you beat me to it. Smiley

I just went here to vote Microcoin!!! everyone if you can make your 3 votes for Microcoin every hr plz, we need to have Microcoin distributed among a big user base

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February 12, 2014, 05:07:47 AM
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and you manage a trade volume of 10 BTC per day,
Am I missing something?
Well yes you are missing.. There is no any market under 10 BTC/day volume, exept poor crycurex.
Even MRC day volume on poloniex is 5 BTC today, and micro is not top tradet coin... yet Smiley
Coins-e daytrade... even Doge only is around 100BTC today.
I see you don't really believe altcoins will become more popular Shocked
I believe it will.
On the contrary, I mine a LOT of alt-coins -- including MRC. I blog over at HolyNerdvana.com, if you're curious, and I'm quite serious about these questions and the investment potential. Much of that will depend not only on the quality of the exchange, but also on the number of shares that end up being purchased. If I were to buy 1 BTC of shares and you end up selling 100 BTC worth, you'd have to do a LOT of volume to make it truly worthwhile. And as far as volume goes, either you're way off or CryptoCoinCharts is, based on this information. Poloniex isn't listed properly (or not updated at least), but I just ran through all their currencies and it looks like they did about 80 BTC in the past 24 hours; Coins-e meanwhile only shows as 183 BTC total. Are those figures wrong for some reason you care to explain?

Before we continue, first a question, from the info page: "Due to the way Cryptostocks works and how our shares work, we will be at first selling a large amount of shares that we don't expect to be completely sold. The site will then destroy any amount of shares over the amount that should exist, which is 2x, leaving the site with 50% of all shares. 25% in public ownership and 25% in our ownership. This in practice when sharing profits shares it 50% to us and 50% to other  shareholders."

I'm a bit confused as to whom some of the text refers to. If 20K shares are purchased, then you will end up with 40K total shares, with "the site" holding 20K. Is "the site" talking about alcurEx or Cryptostocks? If it's alcurEx keeping 20K shares, then why is it 25% public ownership and 25% alcurEx ownership -- where is the remaining 50% ownership? I believe that it's actually a potential future ownership. So if 20K shares are purchased, alcurEx will also have 20K shares, and there's a potential to release an additional 40K shares in the future -- half to the public, so really only 20K more? That means at worst the first batch of shares could be diluted 50%.

Anyway, you mentioned Cryptsy and their shares, so I looked into that. They apparently offered 100K shares (only 8K were purchased publicly?), with each being worth 0.0002% of Cryptsy's earnings. Now, unlike the two exchanges mentioned earlier, Cryptsy does a fair amount of volume -- 1630 BTC during the past 24 hours supposedly. They charge 0.2% commission on buys and 0.3% on sells, so if I'm reading this properly they made 0.5% total on all trades. That means their 1630 BTC of volume generated 8.15 BTC in revenue for the site during the past 24 hours. Each share meanwhile is worth 0.0002% of that, so a share initially purchased at 0.05 BTC would have generated 0.00163 BTC. That works out to 0.0489 BTC per month if the volume is consistently at 1630 (which it's obviously not, but I don't have historical volume numbers). Not surprisingly, people are trying to sell Cryptsy shares now at prices four times as high as the initial IPO, and even at those prices it would be a reasonable investment I think.

Your offering meanwhile is for an unproven exchange, and I don't have numbers for your commission rates and we don't know volumes. You've put out an IPO of up to 1 million shares, but of course only some of those will be purchased. Let's say you end up with 20K shares being purchased as an example. Where each Cryptsy share is worth a non-dilutable 0.0002% of profits, your shares are worth... an amount dependent on the number of shares purchased and your commission rates. 20K shares would mean each share is worth 0.005% of half of alcurEx's earnings, while 50K shares would make each share worth 0.002% of half of the earnings. Or put another way, 20K shares ends up with each being worth 0.0025% of the total earnings -- so basically 12.5 times as "valuable" as a Cryptsy share in terms of a percentage -- and 50K shares would make each worth 0.001% of earnings. But if 250K are purchased, then your shares are worth exactly the same 0.0002% as the Cryptsy shares you bashed. And your shares are not "non-dilutable", so you could issue more shares in the future and thus existing shares become worth proportionately less -- half as much is the potential value of shares in the future. Which means if more than 125K shares are purchased in this IPO, you're basically no better than Cryptsy (and you probably shouldn't be comparing your offering to others until everything is finished).

As far as income/returns, a new exchange would be doing well if they managed 100 BTC of volume per day during the first few months. If you charge the same 0.5% combined commission as Cryptsy, that's 0.5 BTC per day. With 20K shares, each share would get 0.0000125 BTC per day, or 0.000375 BTC per month. Three months to break even wouldn't be bad, but again that's all assuming quite a few things and sadly there's nothing really concrete yet.

Anyway, I *am* interested in hearing more, but perhaps via PM/email might be better -- drop me a note if you'd like.

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February 12, 2014, 06:06:17 AM
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For your point: "But if 250K are purchased, then your shares are worth exactly the same 0.0002% as the Cryptsy shares.."

There will be 250K purchased only if someone buyer think alcurex is worth of that.
Did I mentioned Cryptsy or do you mean some one else?
Well if I so, I actually like they shares more than exchange. 
I just don't like simple fee shares because it will not give me any owner rights.
I think alcurex shares are first owner shares on the "virtual stock market" and I want to support that idea as well.
 
Any way you have some Good arguments.
I dont want to argue with you (I have no so many shares) and I'm just happy you make your own calculation.

My calculation is:
If there will be finally 125,000 shares sold out. This is more realistic than your 250,000 scenario, I think. (now there is around 9,000)
And If alcurex can get own place and trade volume will be only 100BTC/day
I will still get +400% profit / year with my share and I can still keep my share.
I think it's pretty well share fee profit and there is still possibility my "co-owner" share value will get way more higer.

                 
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For your point: "But if 250K are purchased, then your shares are worth exactly the same 0.0002% as the Cryptsy shares.."

There will be 250K purchased only if someone buyer think alcurex is worth of that.
Did I mentioned Cryptsy or do you mean some one else?
Well if I so, I actually like they shares more than exchange. 
I just don't like simple fee shares because it will not give me any owner rights.
I think alcurex shares are first owner shares on the "virtual stock market" and I want to support that idea as well.
 
Any way you have some Good arguments.
I dont want to argue with you (I have no so many shares) and I'm just happy you make your own calculation.

My calculation is:
If there will be finally 125,000 shares sold out. This is more realistic than your 250,000 scenario, I think. (now there is around 9,000)
And If alcurex can get own place and trade volume will be only 100BTC/day
I will still get +400% profit / year with my share and I can still keep my share.
I think it's pretty well share fee profit and there is still possibility my "co-owner" share value will get way more higer.
Sorry -- MRC mentioned others: "You should see Cryptsy, Coinex, Vircurex, Altswap and mcxnow fee share sales for reference if you want to decide if this will be a smart investment or not." Thought I was responding to him, but you had stepped in. Hahaha....

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Sorry -- MRC mentioned others: "You should see Cryptsy, Coinex, Vircurex, Altswap and mcxnow fee share sales for reference if you want to decide if this will be a smart investment or not." Thought I was responding to him, but you had stepped in. Hahaha....
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don't forget to vote guys the more exchanges the better. Lets get onto a major Chinese exchange

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don't forget to vote guys the more exchanges the better. Lets get onto a major Chinese exchange
I will do that, first need to go sleep an while..

                 
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February 12, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
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done Wink

https://www.mintpal.com/voting

go there and vote for microcoin

Aww, you beat me to it. Smiley

I just went here to vote Microcoin!!! everyone if you can make your 3 votes for Microcoin every hr plz, we need to have Microcoin distributed among a big user base

just WOW...

8 hours ago it has around 60 votes. now it is on top with 10196!

also check out #microcoin on freenode. credits to Tom17.
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done Wink

https://www.mintpal.com/voting

go there and vote for microcoin

Aww, you beat me to it. Smiley

I just went here to vote Microcoin!!! everyone if you can make your 3 votes for Microcoin every hr plz, we need to have Microcoin distributed among a big user base

just WOW...

8 hours ago it has around 60 votes. now it is on top with 10196!

also check out #microcoin on freenode. credits to Tom17.

good shit bro's community is finally coming to support

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February 12, 2014, 11:18:03 AM
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done Wink

https://www.mintpal.com/voting

go there and vote for microcoin

Aww, you beat me to it. Smiley

I just went here to vote Microcoin!!! everyone if you can make your 3 votes for Microcoin every hr plz, we need to have Microcoin distributed among a big user base

just WOW...

8 hours ago it has around 60 votes. now it is on top with 10196!

also check out #microcoin on freenode. credits to Tom17.

good shit bro's community is finally coming to support

so are lots of miners with 8+ cards reaping it in the top 15, top miner from my guestimate has about 70 x R9 290  Shocked

I mine therefor I am Smiley - WIN : WcLLYcZfHQAMMVwiaAtMECZQh1YfCPw88g
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February 12, 2014, 11:26:39 AM
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keep voting on cryptsy https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/66440/page/12 to add MicroCoin
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February 12, 2014, 12:27:57 PM
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It (the community) starting to move. Yeaahhhhh Smiley

For the IRC channel, once numbers start to accumulate, I will set up my bot. It does all the usual stuff such as diff, perday, worth, prices etc but it also has a faucet/giveaways and coming soon is a multi-coin lotto Smiley

Come on in! https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#microcoin

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February 12, 2014, 01:06:57 PM
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really excited to see this coin taking off - definitely one to outlast the other alts..

BitCoin --> LiteCoin --> MicroCoin...

Once the marketing starts, its lift off.
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Voted.

really excited to see this coin taking off - definitely one to outlast the other alts..

BitCoin --> LiteCoin --> MicroCoin...

Once the marketing starts, its lift off.

That would be really great. I don't have enough MicroCoins yet, so I'll stay stick to it for sure Smiley.

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