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[volyova]

Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.

Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.

lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all.

@Wolf0 have you any idea what the system ram requirements for Lyra2RE are likely to be? Thanks, V.

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[voephilis]

Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.

Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.

fudda fits perfect for him

[djm34]

Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.

Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.

lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all.

@Wolf0 have you any idea what the system ram requirements for Lyra2RE are likely to be? Thanks, V.

the mem requirement isn't high, however mem usage is pretty high...
also the only reason why scrypt-jane is asic resistant is because there is no profitable coin to mine... and everybody runs away when the nfactor becomes too high...
(scrypt-jane as all scrypt derivative are high temp algo... at least lyra2RE is low temp/ low power algo... bensam will be happy  )

[jamesl22]

You can now mine on testnet! Just pull and build the latest code: https://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin. Testnet forks at block 100.

[muddafudda]

Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.

Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.

That was taken from the vertcoin  Reddit. So you Fudding yourself? Quick make up a lie!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/20qlkn/whats_the_difference_between_scryptn_and_scrypt/

[kimera]

whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32

[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool
[17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64
[17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com.
[17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850

[djm34]

Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.

Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.

That was taken from the vertcoin  Reddit. So you Fudding yourself? Quick make up a lie!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/20qlkn/whats_the_difference_between_scryptn_and_scrypt/

try to read what you are quoting before quoting...

[muddafudda]

Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.

Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.

lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all.

https://github.com/floodyberry/scrypt-jane

Supported Hash Functions

SHA256/512
BLAKE256/512
Skein512
Keccak256/512 (SHA-3)
Hash function implementations, unlike mix functions, are not optimized. The PBKDF2 computations are relatively minor in the scrypt algorithm, so including CPU specific versions, or vastly unrolling loops, would serve little purpose while bloating the code, both source and binary, and making it more confusing to implement correctly.


https://github.com/yacoin/yacoin/tree/master/src/scrypt-jane/code

[djm34]

whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32

[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool
[17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64
[17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com.
[17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850

use -g2, I experienced crash at -g4

[volyova]

Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.

Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.

lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all.

@Wolf0 have you any idea what the system ram requirements for Lyra2RE are likely to be? Thanks, V.

I'm running it now, but my rigs all have 4GB or more - I don't think it's gonna be much, though, not like scrypt-N. Probably needs as much SYSTEM memory as X11, but significantly more GPU RAM.

Thanks, man..

[djm34]

Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.

Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.

lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all.

https://github.com/floodyberry/scrypt-jane

Supported Hash Functions

SHA256/512
BLAKE256/512
Skein512
Keccak256/512 (SHA-3)
Hash function implementations, unlike mix functions, are not optimized. The PBKDF2 computations are relatively minor in the scrypt algorithm, so including CPU specific versions, or vastly unrolling loops, would serve little purpose while bloating the code, both source and binary, and making it more confusing to implement correctly.


https://github.com/yacoin/yacoin/tree/master/src/scrypt-jane/code

it means it can be used to mix those function, it doesn't mean it uses all of them...

[othe]

scrypt-jane is a crypto library and not the name of a hashing function and thats it...

Wolf0 is right...what they call scrypt-jane as a hashing algo is simply cacha and keccak in combination.

[kimera]

whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32

[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool
[17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64
[17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com.
[17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850

use -g2, I experienced crash at -g4

"gpu-threads" : "2",

but now I connect to test pool 92.27.201.170:9174 .... and miner is work!!!
so ... we need wait upgrade other pool?

[jamesl22]

whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32

[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool
[17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64
[17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com.
[17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850

use -g2, I experienced crash at -g4

"gpu-threads" : "2",

but now I connect to test pool 92.27.201.170:9174 .... and miner is work!!!
so ... we need wait upgrade other pool?

This pool is just for testing - VTC has not switched to Lyra2 yet.

EDIT: Ugh, this miner doesn't have the worksize bug patched...

Worksize bug?

[djm34]

whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32

[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool
[17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64
[17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com.
[17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
[17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024
what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850

use -g2, I experienced crash at -g4

"gpu-threads" : "2",

but now I connect to test pool 92.27.201.170:9174 .... and miner is work!!!
so ... we need wait upgrade other pool?

This pool is just for testing - VTC has not switched to Lyra2 yet.

EDIT: Ugh, this miner doesn't have the worksize bug patched...

this miner is also a release candidate... (I would say pre-release candidate, launch is in ~10days or so)

[sammy007]

Well, finally:

node-stratum-pool fork: https://github.com/sammy007/node-stratum-pool/tree/lyra2re
node-multi-hashing fork: https://github.com/sammy007/node-multi-hashing/tree/lyra2re

Tested, it works, shares accepted. Resulting hashes are equal to lyra2re-hash-python output.

Note: sph-blake.c from original zone's repo overwritten with blake.c from VTC repo, because it's blake2b. So please only use this fork for Lyra2RE hashing, other algos using blake simply broken in my fork.

If you want stratum, check out original README.md. Config:

var myCoin = {
    "name": "Vertcoin",
    "symbol": "VTC",
    "algorithm": "lyra2re",
    "txMessages": false
};


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[jamesl22]

Well, finally:

node-stratum-pool fork: https://github.com/sammy007/node-stratum-pool/tree/lyra2re
node-multi-hashing fork: https://github.com/sammy007/node-multi-hashing/tree/lyra2re

Tested, it works, shares accepted. Resulting hashes are equal to lyra2re-hash-python output.

Note: sph-blake.c from original zone's repo overwritten with blake.c from VTC repo, because it's blake2b. So please only use this fork for Lyra2RE hashing, other algos using blake simply broken in my fork.

If you want stratum, check out original README.md. Config:

var myCoin = {
    "name": "Vertcoin",
    "symbol": "VTC",
    "algorithm": "lyra2re",
    "txMessages": false
};


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Thanks for this, will add to the list of projects.

[jwinterm]

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[jamesl22]

64-bit Linux qt wallet released. 32-bit will follow in the next few hours. 32-bit wallet released.

EVERYONE MUST UPDATE THEIR WALLETS NOW!

Wallet downloads:

Platform	Link
Linux Daemon 32-bit	https://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.0/vertcoind-v0.9.0.0-i386.tar.gz.zip
Linux Daemon 64-bit	https://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.0/vertcoind-v0.9.0.0-amd64.tar.gz.zip
Linux-Qt (GUI) 32-bit (Requires libQt4)	https://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.0/vertcoin-qt-linux-i386.zip
Linux-Qt (GUI) 64-bit (Requires libQt5)	https://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.0/vertcoin-qt-linux-x64.zip
Windows 32-bit	Coming soon
Windows 64-bit	Coming soon
Mac OSX	Coming soon
Source Code	https://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/archive/v0.9.0.0.zip

Miners: (Thanks to djm43 for his great work on this!)

Platform	Link
sgminer (AMD) Windows	https://github.com/metalicjames/sgminer-Lyra2RE/releases/download/5.0.0-Lyra2RE-RC1/sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32.zip
sgminer (AMD) Linux	Coming soon
sgminer (AMD) Source Code	https://github.com/metalicjames/sgminer-Lyra2RE
ccminer (nVidia) Windows	https://github.com/metalicjames/ccminer-Lyra2RE/releases/download/v1.0-Lyra2RE-RC1/ccminer-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32.zip
ccminer (nVidia) Linux	https://github.com/metalicjames/ccminer-Lyra2RE/releases/download/v1.0-Lyra2RE-RC1/ccminer-Lyra2RE-RC1-amd64-linux.zip
ccminer (nVidia) Source Code	https://github.com/metalicjames/ccminer-Lyra2RE

Other software:

Software	Link
Python Module for Lyra2RE (for use in external projects)	https://github.com/metalicjames/lyra2re-hash-python
Stratum-mining-Lyra2RE (Fork of stratum-mining for MPOS etc USE ONLY AFTER FORK BLOCK!)	https://github.com/metalicjames/stratum-mining-Lyra2RE
node-stratum-pool	https://github.com/sammy007/node-stratum-pool/tree/lyra2re
node-multi-hashing	https://github.com/sammy007/node-multi-hashing/tree/lyra2re
P2Pool	Coming soon

You guys can help by contacting your pool operator/any Vertcoin related services you use and asking them to update to the latest wallet.

node-stratum-pool, node-multi-hashing and ccminer Linux forks now available!

[silencesilence]

read here

Vertcoin has always been and will continue to be the leader in decentralization of cryptocurrency. Lyra2 is a natural successor of Scrypt providing an improvement on the same fundamental purpose – scaling hardware difficulty. The decision to move to this algorithm comes as a preemptive strike against ASICs and a move against Multipools. As many of you know, we have several concepts in the hopper to remain in step with the Vertcoin charter – Vertcoin’s [algorithm] is designed to resist the development of custom mining hardware and multipool mining, ensuring that transactions are validated by a widely distributed network and avoiding the selling pressure when large mining pools indiscriminately flood the market with freshly mined coins.

Would someone explain in detail how Vertcoin will be a Multipool resistant ..... what has changed in the algorithms for Multipool resistant

expect more clarification from the Vertcoin developers