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Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.
Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.
lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all. @Wolf0 have you any idea what the system ram requirements for Lyra2RE are likely to be? Thanks, V.
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December 06, 2014, 03:36:07 PM |
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Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.
Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.
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December 06, 2014, 03:44:33 PM |
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Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.
Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.
lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all. @Wolf0 have you any idea what the system ram requirements for Lyra2RE are likely to be? Thanks, V. the mem requirement isn't high, however mem usage is pretty high... also the only reason why scrypt-jane is asic resistant is because there is no profitable coin to mine... and everybody runs away when the nfactor becomes too high... (scrypt-jane as all scrypt derivative are high temp algo... at least lyra2RE is low temp/ low power algo... bensam will be happy ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) )
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December 06, 2014, 03:47:49 PM |
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Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.
Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.
That was taken from the vertcoin Reddit. So you Fudding yourself? Quick make up a lie!! https://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/20qlkn/whats_the_difference_between_scryptn_and_scrypt/
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December 06, 2014, 03:49:57 PM |
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whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32
[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool [17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64 [17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com. [17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850
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December 06, 2014, 03:53:21 PM |
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Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.
Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.
That was taken from the vertcoin Reddit. So you Fudding yourself? Quick make up a lie!! https://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/20qlkn/whats_the_difference_between_scryptn_and_scrypt/try to read what you are quoting before quoting...
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December 06, 2014, 03:53:38 PM |
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Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.
Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.
lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all. https://github.com/floodyberry/scrypt-janeSupported Hash Functions SHA256/512 BLAKE256/512 Skein512 Keccak256/512 (SHA-3) Hash function implementations, unlike mix functions, are not optimized. The PBKDF2 computations are relatively minor in the scrypt algorithm, so including CPU specific versions, or vastly unrolling loops, would serve little purpose while bloating the code, both source and binary, and making it more confusing to implement correctly. https://github.com/yacoin/yacoin/tree/master/src/scrypt-jane/code
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December 06, 2014, 03:55:32 PM |
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whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32
[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool [17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64 [17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com. [17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850
use -g2, I experienced crash at -g4
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December 06, 2014, 04:02:13 PM |
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Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.
Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.
lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all. @Wolf0 have you any idea what the system ram requirements for Lyra2RE are likely to be? Thanks, V. I'm running it now, but my rigs all have 4GB or more - I don't think it's gonna be much, though, not like scrypt-N. Probably needs as much SYSTEM memory as X11, but significantly more GPU RAM. Thanks, man..
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December 06, 2014, 04:03:06 PM |
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Actually the new algo is a downgrade on Scrypt Jane which was released 2 years ago. As you are all aware Scrypt Jane has 7 hashing functions Sha256, Sha512, Blake256, Blake512, Skein512, Keccak256 and Keccak512 will your miracle new function has 5 and took months to complete.
Scrypt Jane is still ASIC resistant. Not sure what exactly your trying to sell here but it quite obviously is a downgrade on 2 year old code. Shame really, try something a little more unique next time maybe.
lol wut. Scrypt-Jane, also known as scrypt-chacha, has Keccak-512 and chacha. That's all. https://github.com/floodyberry/scrypt-janeSupported Hash Functions SHA256/512 BLAKE256/512 Skein512 Keccak256/512 (SHA-3) Hash function implementations, unlike mix functions, are not optimized. The PBKDF2 computations are relatively minor in the scrypt algorithm, so including CPU specific versions, or vastly unrolling loops, would serve little purpose while bloating the code, both source and binary, and making it more confusing to implement correctly. https://github.com/yacoin/yacoin/tree/master/src/scrypt-jane/codeit means it can be used to mix those function, it doesn't mean it uses all of them...
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December 06, 2014, 04:07:44 PM |
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scrypt-jane is a crypto library and not the name of a hashing function and thats it...
Wolf0 is right...what they call scrypt-jane as a hashing algo is simply cacha and keccak in combination.
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December 06, 2014, 04:20:00 PM |
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whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32
[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool [17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64 [17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com. [17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850
use -g2, I experienced crash at -g4 "gpu-threads" : "2", but now I connect to test pool 92.27.201.170:9174 .... and miner is work!!! so ... we need wait upgrade other pool?
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December 06, 2014, 04:48:18 PM |
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whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32
[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool [17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64 [17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com. [17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850
use -g2, I experienced crash at -g4 "gpu-threads" : "2", but now I connect to test pool 92.27.201.170:9174 .... and miner is work!!! so ... we need wait upgrade other pool? This pool is just for testing - VTC has not switched to Lyra2 yet. EDIT: Ugh, this miner doesn't have the worksize bug patched... Worksize bug?
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December 06, 2014, 04:54:26 PM |
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whis sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32
[17:37:34] Probing for an alive pool [17:37:34] bla-bla-bla.com difficulty changed to 64 [17:37:35] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool bla-bla-bla.com. [17:37:35] Startup Pool No = 0 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 [17:37:35] Initialising kernel Lyra2RE.cl with bitalign, unpatched BFI, nfactor 10, n 1024 what I'm doing wrong? or the new lyra sgminer don't work whis pools now? 0_o ps. r280x and 7850
use -g2, I experienced crash at -g4 "gpu-threads" : "2", but now I connect to test pool 92.27.201.170:9174 .... and miner is work!!! so ... we need wait upgrade other pool? This pool is just for testing - VTC has not switched to Lyra2 yet. EDIT: Ugh, this miner doesn't have the worksize bug patched... this miner is also a release candidate... (I would say pre-release candidate, launch is in ~10days or so)
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December 06, 2014, 05:05:03 PM |
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Well, finally: node-stratum-pool fork: https://github.com/sammy007/node-stratum-pool/tree/lyra2renode-multi-hashing fork: https://github.com/sammy007/node-multi-hashing/tree/lyra2reTested, it works, shares accepted. Resulting hashes are equal to lyra2re-hash-python output. Note: sph-blake.c from original zone's repo overwritten with blake.c from VTC repo, because it's blake2b. So please only use this fork for Lyra2RE hashing, other algos using blake simply broken in my fork. If you want stratum, check out original README.md. Config: var myCoin = { "name": "Vertcoin", "symbol": "VTC", "algorithm": "lyra2re", "txMessages": false };
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December 06, 2014, 05:09:33 PM |
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Well, finally: node-stratum-pool fork: https://github.com/sammy007/node-stratum-pool/tree/lyra2renode-multi-hashing fork: https://github.com/sammy007/node-multi-hashing/tree/lyra2reTested, it works, shares accepted. Resulting hashes are equal to lyra2re-hash-python output. Note: sph-blake.c from original zone's repo overwritten with blake.c from VTC repo, because it's blake2b. So please only use this fork for Lyra2RE hashing, other algos using blake simply broken in my fork. If you want stratum, check out original README.md. Config: var myCoin = { "name": "Vertcoin", "symbol": "VTC", "algorithm": "lyra2re", "txMessages": false };
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Carry on this discussion while Forum **Shilling**, Marinecoin Rewards Forum Content creators and people who reply to forum posts. Fully automatic rewards.
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December 06, 2014, 05:12:52 PM |
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64-bit Linux qt wallet released. 32-bit will follow in the next few hours. 32-bit wallet released. EVERYONE MUST UPDATE THEIR WALLETS NOW!Wallet downloads:Miners: (Thanks to djm43 for his great work on this!) Other software:You guys can help by contacting your pool operator/any Vertcoin related services you use and asking them to update to the latest wallet. node-stratum-pool, node-multi-hashing and ccminer Linux forks now available!
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read here Vertcoin has always been and will continue to be the leader in decentralization of cryptocurrency. Lyra2 is a natural successor of Scrypt providing an improvement on the same fundamental purpose – scaling hardware difficulty. The decision to move to this algorithm comes as a preemptive strike against ASICs and a move against Multipools. As many of you know, we have several concepts in the hopper to remain in step with the Vertcoin charter – Vertcoin’s [algorithm] is designed to resist the development of custom mining hardware and multipool mining, ensuring that transactions are validated by a widely distributed network and avoiding the selling pressure when large mining pools indiscriminately flood the market with freshly mined coins.
Would someone explain in detail how Vertcoin will be a Multipool resistant ..... what has changed in the algorithms for Multipool resistant
expect more clarification from the Vertcoin developers
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