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May 27, 2014, 06:42:49 PM
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Cryptsy beast-moding back to .02

what the heck.. the spread between cryptsy and mintpal is pretty big now.
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May 27, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
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This has been fun.  I just finished increasing my DRK position by about 1/4.

Did you guys know large companies like Yahoo and Google will buy up startups whose technology that have no real interest in?  Any idea why?

For the software engineers at those companies.  They understand that a good developer is literally worth their weight in gold.

You invest in the developer, not the coin.  And Evan hasn't gone anywhere.  In fact, all of this has made me believe in him that much more.  Being able to remedy this situation has simply proven his ability that much more.

I'll leave that buy wall at 182 to see if it can help stabilize things.

Thanks for the cheap DRK.
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May 27, 2014, 06:45:31 PM
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37BTC wall  Cool

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May 27, 2014, 06:45:32 PM
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Cryptsy beast-moding back to .02

what the heck.. the spread between cryptsy and mintpal is pretty big now.

Yep, this will get arbed out for sure.
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May 27, 2014, 06:46:15 PM
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Cryptsy beast-moding back to .02

what the heck.. the spread between cryptsy and mintpal is pretty big now.

Not for long watching the buys on mp

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May 27, 2014, 06:47:00 PM
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set sell to 0.028 :|

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May 27, 2014, 06:47:32 PM
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37BTC wall  Cool

gone  Shocked

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May 27, 2014, 06:48:46 PM
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Until proof of even FPGAs are posted, ASIC = Pulled out of Obama's ass vaporware and not A real NSA product.

Proof of FPGA is not required, we know that FPGA can do it if someone programs them to. However their acceleration factor is not that big and it's highly unlikely to find thousands of them.

ASIC = I don't know. But even at a 500x acceleration factor compared to a GPU (say a 3 MHs GPU / 1.5 GHs ASIC) it'd take HUNDREDS of them to pull stuff like 800-900 gigahash. FPGAs even more so because their acceleration is much closer to GPUs. I saw the link the guy gave as "x11 fpga program" which was bullshit, but hashpower is hashpower and it was tremendous.

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The main propagandist behind that campaign is cryptohunter who has been pushing this in order to discourage Darkcoin miners since it claims ASIC resistance. If ASICs existed you mean to say they were tested on the crapcoin first and never on DRK ?

If I were the NSA I'd make sure to have hardware ASICs for every single algorithm out there. If I want to break a wallet, or control a crypto network, I won't do it with GPUs. The budget for acquiring such equipment is pretty low for their standards. They could control 51% of bitcoin right now if they spent something like 100-200mn in ASIC for SHA256 and destroy bitcoin. Even 1 bn budget for ASIC hardware is peanuts compared to protecting the hegemony of the dollar.

I believe they have the theoretical possibility of overriding every single POW network out there with 51% but a POS coin would remain resilient from a POW attack as it works through POS staking. So they would have a mess at their hand with an anonymous coin that remains resilient. So their hardware would be useless for 51% override. But it wouldn't be useless in the coin generation phase (POW). That's where I suspect they put their hardware on and started mining with that insane hashrate to get a 51% stake and control the future of the coin. If they didn't manage that, they'll manage it through buying a few more to get there.

The absence of that hashrate from every other x11 coin is a huge indicator. The fact that, suddenly, 900gh of x11 hashpower appeared out of nowhere just to mine XC, doesn't "just" happen.
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May 27, 2014, 06:49:50 PM
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And the ship goes up, you better be ready.

LOL.
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May 27, 2014, 06:49:51 PM
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I was never  Shocked Cool If you understand me, ya will becum rich Wink



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May 27, 2014, 06:49:57 PM
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Max Keiser talks about darkcoin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FXKXH7gvmw


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May 27, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
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Cum on buý buy buy buy buy buy yo, no resistance upwards yo  Shocked Cool

wtf craptsy is dominating? Oo

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May 27, 2014, 06:53:18 PM
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Man the #1 wallet just won't quit (he was #2 there for a while at 314159.xxx DRK) now he added enough to make it 333 333 DRK and reclaim the top spot.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/#!rich

Hopefully weak hands learn how to make money by example.

This whale spent over 5k BTC+ in DRK. What you have to ask yourself now is, did he initially earn those 5k BTC+ by dumping when everyone panic sell or by buying when everyone else panic sell? He added 19k DRK to his wallet today, think about it.

Buy when everyone else sell and sell when everyone else buy, that's how you make money out of crypto.

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May 27, 2014, 06:53:41 PM
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The most important piece of news is that we will not need any more forks to complete Darksend, masternode payments. THIS IS HUGE.

This is a somewhat rushed decision. Not going through hard forks will probably sacrifice functionality for the tradeoff of avoiding discomfort of hard forks, through work-around systems which may be suboptimal.

Market pressure to deliver is taking an impact on product development. Investor pressure may also have impacted the decision by saying "oh you know what, I was expecting to make money and now I'm not". The move to comfort bagholders and masternode owners by having them get 20% instead of 10% is good for price recovery. On the other hand the plan to run a masternode with 20 tickets instead of 20 masternodes should be scratched. If the number of nodes is reduced by multiple tickets => more centralization.

When DarkSend needs improvement like encryption, ip obfuscation, new services running through the masternodes, how will they be applied without hardforks? By tweaking the system externally? Unlikely. I'm not coding the thing but it seems that way given the progression so far.

Perhaps that should be reconsidered. Hard forks aren't that dangerous. We'll need the best anonymous coin the money can buy and that should be also a priority compared to masternode payments and stability. Otherwise the competition will say "oh we are better than you" and then if you don't have the market edge you are a dinosaur.

I think a simple window on every wallet client saying "you need to update your client" will do the trick for everyone being on board prior or after a fork.

Thank you for your insight. I assumed Evan had found a way to give the same level of performance without a hard fork. Obviously, the decision not to do a hard fork should not come with any sacrifice with regards to the planned features of the coin. I do believe that if later on a fork is necessary for a crucial piece of the puzzle Evan will reconsider. As far masternode payments are concerned, an alternative without a fork seems appropriate as long as its safe. Lets wait and see.
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May 27, 2014, 06:54:16 PM
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Until proof of even FPGAs are posted, ASIC = Pulled out of Obama's ass vaporware and not A real NSA product.

Proof of FPGA is not required, we know that FPGA can do it if someone programs them to. However their acceleration factor is not that big and it's highly unlikely to find thousands of them.

ASIC = I don't know. But even at a 500x acceleration factor compared to a GPU (say a 3 MHs GPU / 1.5 GHs ASIC) it'd take HUNDREDS of them to pull stuff like 800-900 gigahash. FPGAs even more so because their acceleration is much closer to GPUs. I saw the link the guy gave as "x11 fpga program" which was bullshit, but hashpower is hashpower and it was tremendous.

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The main propagandist behind that campaign is cryptohunter who has been pushing this in order to discourage Darkcoin miners since it claims ASIC resistance. If ASICs existed you mean to say they were tested on the crapcoin first and never on DRK ?

If I were the NSA I'd make sure to have hardware ASICs for every single algorithm out there. If I want to break a wallet, or control a crypto network, I won't do it with GPUs. The budget for acquiring such equipment is pretty low for their standards. They could control 51% of bitcoin right now if they spent something like 100-200mn in ASIC for SHA256 and destroy bitcoin. Even 1 bn budget for ASIC hardware is peanuts compared to protecting the hegemony of the dollar.

I believe they have the theoretical possibility of overriding every single POW network out there with 51% but a POS coin would remain resilient from a POW attack as it works through POS staking. So they would have a mess at their hand with an anonymous coin that remains resilient. So their hardware would be useless for 51% override. But it wouldn't be useless in the coin generation phase (POW). That's where I suspect they put their hardware on and started mining with that insane hashrate to get a 51% stake and control the future of the coin. If they didn't manage that, they'll manage it through buying a few more to get there.

The absence of that hashrate from every other x11 coin is a huge indicator. The fact that, suddenly, 900gh of x11 hashpower appeared out of nowhere just to mine XC, doesn't "just" happen.

Alex, it is very likely a bug with the network hashrate reports or a bug somwehere in general. I just don't buy x11 ASICs out of the blue, it takes a sustantially long development lifecycle to come up with these, and that to by NSA to break into a crap coin. The absence from every other x11 coin pretty much is a convincing proof of the lack of x11 ASICs.

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May 27, 2014, 06:57:55 PM
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Man the #1 wallet just won't quit (he was #2 there for a while at 314159.xxx DRK) now he added enough to make it 333 333 DRK and reclaim the top spot.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/#!rich

Hopefully weak hands learn how to make money by example.

This whale spent over 5k BTC+ in DRK. What you have to ask yourself now is, did he initially earn those 5k BTC+ by dumping when everyone panic sell or by buying when everyone else panic sell? He added 19k DRK to his wallet today, think about it.

Buy when everyone else sell and sell when everyone else buy, that's how you make money out of crypto.



wow. now that is what I call rich. Is that Satoshi, I wonder?

He needs a good project to help him move some BTC  Grin
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May 27, 2014, 06:58:13 PM
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After longer deployment of this miner

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623409.0

the temperatures are increased by 2 °C and hashrate increased by 40% from 1 MH/s to 1,47 MH/s on my 7850. Haven't mined for 2 weeks though, it might be dust Grin

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May 27, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
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coinotron STILL on the wrong fork or is it just me?
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May 27, 2014, 07:03:35 PM
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Until proof of even FPGAs are posted, ASIC = Pulled out of Obama's ass vaporware and not A real NSA product.

Proof of FPGA is not required, we know that FPGA can do it if someone programs them to. However their acceleration factor is not that big and it's highly unlikely to find thousands of them.

ASIC = I don't know. But even at a 500x acceleration factor compared to a GPU (say a 3 MHs GPU / 1.5 GHs ASIC) it'd take HUNDREDS of them to pull stuff like 800-900 gigahash. FPGAs even more so because their acceleration is much closer to GPUs. I saw the link the guy gave as "x11 fpga program" which was bullshit, but hashpower is hashpower and it was tremendous.

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The main propagandist behind that campaign is cryptohunter who has been pushing this in order to discourage Darkcoin miners since it claims ASIC resistance. If ASICs existed you mean to say they were tested on the crapcoin first and never on DRK ?

If I were the NSA I'd make sure to have hardware ASICs for every single algorithm out there. If I want to break a wallet, or control a crypto network, I won't do it with GPUs. The budget for acquiring such equipment is pretty low for their standards. They could control 51% of bitcoin right now if they spent something like 100-200mn in ASIC for SHA256 and destroy bitcoin. Even 1 bn budget for ASIC hardware is peanuts compared to protecting the hegemony of the dollar.

I believe they have the theoretical possibility of overriding every single POW network out there with 51% but a POS coin would remain resilient from a POW attack as it works through POS staking. So they would have a mess at their hand with an anonymous coin that remains resilient. So their hardware would be useless for 51% override. But it wouldn't be useless in the coin generation phase (POW). That's where I suspect they put their hardware on and started mining with that insane hashrate to get a 51% stake and control the future of the coin. If they didn't manage that, they'll manage it through buying a few more to get there.

The absence of that hashrate from every other x11 coin is a huge indicator. The fact that, suddenly, 900gh of x11 hashpower appeared out of nowhere just to mine XC, doesn't "just" happen.

Alex, it is very likely a bug with the network hashrate reports or a bug somwehere in general. I just don't buy x11 ASICs out of the blue, it takes a sustantially long development lifecycle to come up with these, and that to by NSA to break into a crap coin. The absence from every other x11 coin pretty much is a convincing proof of the lack of x11 ASICs.

If there were X11 ASICs, they would be pushing giant TH/s, not MH/s.

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As most of your are aware, there was a critical problem with the masternode payments system yesterday that caused the network to fork into many smaller networks and caused a great destabilization. This was either due to an intentional attack on the network or an issue with the masternode payments system, in either case we have a solution for masternode payments that will be safe for the network in the future.

Once we learned the exchanges were on different forks, it was too late to do a proper fork in the future so we opted to fork immediately. The network updated rather quickly and stability was restored within a few hours.

Prognosis of the network

At this time the network is healthy and has been on the same chain since the event. We’ve reached out to every pool and exchange and no funds were lost during the event.

No More Forks

Beyond this point we will not need to hard fork the network to implement the rest of DarkSend features. This is an example of why hard forks are dangerous and we want to avoid them in the future.

Masternode Payments

We’ve wanted to increase masternode payments to 20% for a few weeks now, but have not been able to since the code was already going through the testing and launch stages. This will give us an opportunity to add greater incentive to secure the network and run masternodes.

Before moving onto RC3, the next version of Darkcoin will now include the masternode payment system (with 20% payouts). The method we’re going to use for masternode payments is not critical and can’t cause a hard fork so it should be rather quick to implement, scheduled for June 14th.

Release Candidate 3

DarkSend RC3 will include a greatly improved anonymity model and support for multiple “tickets” per masternode.

After completing masternode payments, over the next few weeks I’m going to be working with the core darkcoin team to establish a full fledged development team to help with Darkcoin and DarkSend. This should allow us to move at a similar pace of development with much greater quality. The next version of DarkSend is scheduled to be released at the end of June.

Know any great developers that want to help with Darkcoin? Please have them reach out to us.

just got back from a long day driving, training the untrainable, and otherwise being nice to people. so its nice to get back to some f*ing awesome news.  Grin
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