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May 28, 2014, 10:02:57 PM
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wget --max-redirect 0 http://www.x11coin.com
--2014-05-29 00:51:03--  http://www.x11coin.com/
Resolving www.x11coin.com... 192.31.186.3
Connecting to www.x11coin.com|192.31.186.3|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.darkcoin.io [following]

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That is absolutely fucking hilarious !!  Grin Grin
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May 28, 2014, 10:03:42 PM
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This is exactly what happened to Blackcoin and WHitecoin. XC is the new Whitecoin - a complete and utter rip off, a shameful clone to snag the greedy - Look where Whitecoin is now....


X11 is the first good clone of darkcoin, good pump and dump opportunity, then let it die off.


So, essentially you're saying X11Coin(XC) is a copy/clone of Darkcoin. It's ok bro, I can already see that from it's name, X11Coin....

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May 28, 2014, 10:04:33 PM
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And the coming xnodes will be clustered and completely decentralised... no master node type structure.

And this is supposed to be a good thing exactly why? Having an incentive to run a full network node solves the problem bitcoin is having, i.e. not enough full nodes to support decentralized network.

And darkcoin masternodes are "clustered" and completely decentralized. Anyone can run a node.
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May 28, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
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This is exactly what happened to Blackcoin and WHitecoin. XC is the new Whitecoin - a complete and utter rip off, a shameful clone to snag the greedy - Look where Whitecoin is now....



XC offers encrypted transactions. And the coming xnodes will be clustered and completely decentralised... no master node type structure.

I collated these points from the XC developer of things to look forward to in the future, to build upon our already solid foundation:

The mixer technology will be multi-path across a cluster of xnodes which runs over the encrypted protocol, so it won't be a central server, it would be similar to a distributed cluster, and the data is encapsulated inside that encrypted tunnel to prevent off-the wire sniffing (or off-the-air* for the mobile platform)...  DRK didn't "invent" supernodes or the concept, and while some of concepts are similar and/or overlap, we are on a different path than DRK and as we refine the platform, it will be clear why our design, implementation and infrastructure is superior as we will have autonomous supernodes using PKI that can scale up and out to become a distributed anonymous application platform

This is why the multi-path paradigm network I built back in 2005 still functions to do this day and scaled up to meet the demands of 2014... think back to 2005, granted we had the internet, but not the mobile technology - and that is a key part of my background is mobility that will be leveraged in the android anonymous POS wallet

(http://eprint.iacr.org/2009/385.pdf
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1208/1208.3022.pdf)
(The principles for this concept come from a design that I originally leveraged back in 2005,[multi-path paradigm] the system still runs to do this day handling 50k to 100k users per day )

If your waiting for NSA proof anonymity - well that is the goal of our REV 2 release..

No, mixing is only part of it, XC now contains a completely new transaction protocol layer that is encrypted and will be leveraged as a platform for all sorts of concepts.... and it will leverage multi-path paradigm topology (which again is a custom developed concept based on dual-path paradigm)So mixing is just the first application to run on top of this new protocol........ Don't want this key point to get lost --- mixing is just the first application, the list is long and the potential is huge, and since the foundation has been built and deployed, it is now time to build on that foundation.... with some revolutionary concepts and idea's.....

Also the infrastructure for this will support numerous other applications, such as encrypted messaging, P2P exchange..etc granted we can only develop new features so fast, but we are putting the foundation for a multi-use, multi-purpose platform


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May 28, 2014, 10:05:01 PM
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Go to your X11coin and visit your web page to Tongue  btw. your website is ROCKY !!!
So, do we start trolling on their thread?
I just hate this guy.
Ignored list is growing grrrrr

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May 28, 2014, 10:05:48 PM
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Leveraged paradigms! Teh box, I r outside it! I haz a smartphone! Years!
Please man, just stick to the facts... Even if you weren't a troll, who goes in for that buzzword shit? We have no patience for bullshit here. Me, least of all...

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May 28, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
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<snip> It seems this would only be a risk if the very last hashing function were compromised. Even then you would need to know how to generate the correct input to the last hashing function using the other hashing functions. It seems inherently more secure to me.
Sadly, no. To understand this, consider the collision problem inherent to all hashing functions.

if hash1(x) has collisions, then so does hash2(hash1(x)) and hash4(hash3(... and so on, until we reach the full hashing stack, which also has collisions. Similarly, if hash2, hash3, etc, or hash11 have collisions, then so does X11(x). Simply put, if there's a collision attack for any hash#(x), then the same attack applies to X11(x).

A much better way to implement multiple hashing functions would be to interleave multiple hashes, not chain them.

Basically, X11 is 11 times more vulnerable to collisions then a single algorithm would be, while offering no real-world benefits at all.

Beautiful, thanks. When you said preimage I wasn't even thinking about collisions, but that makes total sense.

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May 28, 2014, 10:06:49 PM
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This is exactly what happened to Blackcoin and WHitecoin. XC is the new Whitecoin - a complete and utter rip off, a shameful clone to snag the greedy - Look where Whitecoin is now....


X11 is the first good clone of darkcoin, good pump and dump opportunity, then let it die off.


So, essentially you're saying X11Coin(XC) is a copy/clone of Darkcoin. It's ok bro, I can already see that from it's name, X11Coin....

LOL, x11coin.com shows darkcoin.io, even the dev of X11coin knows its a obvious clone.

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May 28, 2014, 10:07:08 PM
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wget --max-redirect 0 http://www.x11coin.com
--2014-05-29 00:51:03--  http://www.x11coin.com/
Resolving www.x11coin.com... 192.31.186.3
Connecting to www.x11coin.com|192.31.186.3|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.darkcoin.io [following]

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May 28, 2014, 10:09:08 PM
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wget --max-redirect 0 http://www.x11coin.com
--2014-05-29 00:51:03--  http://www.x11coin.com/
Resolving www.x11coin.com... 192.31.186.3
Connecting to www.x11coin.com|192.31.186.3|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.darkcoin.io [following]

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This is exactly what happened to Blackcoin and WHitecoin. XC is the new Whitecoin - a complete and utter rip off, a shameful clone to snag the greedy - Look where Whitecoin is now....



XC offers encrypted transactions. And the coming xnodes will be clustered and completely decentralised... no master node type structure.

I collated these points from the XC developer of things to look forward to in the future, to build upon our already solid foundation:

The mixer technology will be multi-path across a cluster of xnodes which runs over the encrypted protocol, so it won't be a central server, it would be similar to a distributed cluster, and the data is encapsulated inside that encrypted tunnel to prevent off-the wire sniffing (or off-the-air* for the mobile platform)...  DRK didn't "invent" supernodes or the concept, and while some of concepts are similar and/or overlap, we are on a different path than DRK and as we refine the platform, it will be clear why our design, implementation and infrastructure is superior as we will have autonomous supernodes using PKI that can scale up and out to become a distributed anonymous application platform

This is why the multi-path paradigm network I built back in 2005 still functions to do this day and scaled up to meet the demands of 2014... think back to 2005, granted we had the internet, but not the mobile technology - and that is a key part of my background is mobility that will be leveraged in the android anonymous POS wallet

(http://eprint.iacr.org/2009/385.pdf
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1208/1208.3022.pdf)
(The principles for this concept come from a design that I originally leveraged back in 2005,[multi-path paradigm] the system still runs to do this day handling 50k to 100k users per day )

If your waiting for NSA proof anonymity - well that is the goal of our REV 2 release..

No, mixing is only part of it, XC now contains a completely new transaction protocol layer that is encrypted and will be leveraged as a platform for all sorts of concepts.... and it will leverage multi-path paradigm topology (which again is a custom developed concept based on dual-path paradigm)So mixing is just the first application to run on top of this new protocol........ Don't want this key point to get lost --- mixing is just the first application, the list is long and the potential is huge, and since the foundation has been built and deployed, it is now time to build on that foundation.... with some revolutionary concepts and idea's.....

Also the infrastructure for this will support numerous other applications, such as encrypted messaging, P2P exchange..etc granted we can only develop new features so fast, but we are putting the foundation for a multi-use, multi-purpose platform

You seem to be promoting XC, but your signature is promoting Monero.

What one of the two do you prefer?

Should i invest in both?

I think that they are both good coins and want to expand into these.

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This is exactly what happened to Blackcoin and WHitecoin. XC is the new Whitecoin - a complete and utter rip off, a shameful clone to snag the greedy - Look where Whitecoin is now....





So, essentially you're saying XC is a copy/clone of Darkcoin. It's ok bro, I can already see that from it's name, X11Coin....

Not at all. XC uses the multi path paradigm as an extension of the dual path paradigm, similar to the TOR onion routing protocol. As well as offering encryption and far greater decentralisation of it's autonomous xnodes. And that's just the start. XC will blow DRK out of the water.

Read some of the tech here:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1208/1208.3022.pdf
http://eprint.iacr.org/2009/385.pdf

Other things coming:

Blockchain v2.0 with encrypted messaging and peer-to-peer marketplace
Payment cards: "Yes, Debit/ATM/VISA. More details to follow."

See the developer's background here: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82/

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May 28, 2014, 10:09:59 PM
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wget --max-redirect 0 http://www.x11coin.com
--2014-05-29 00:51:03--  http://www.x11coin.com/
Resolving www.x11coin.com... 192.31.186.3
Connecting to www.x11coin.com|192.31.186.3|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.darkcoin.io [following]

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May 28, 2014, 10:10:37 PM
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Evan really needs to communicate what's going on more effectively. Like every day. The near silence is not exactly reassuring.
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May 28, 2014, 10:11:29 PM
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Paradigm!
If you don't stop saying "paradigm" I'm going to ignore you. I've only suffered you this long because you're at least half-way making a point sort of...

Cut the fluff.

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May 28, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
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X11coin is soo safe, their devs cant even secure their own website lol.
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May 28, 2014, 10:12:28 PM
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wget --max-redirect 0 http://www.x11coin.com
--2014-05-29 00:51:03--  http://www.x11coin.com/
Resolving www.x11coin.com... 192.31.186.3
Connecting to www.x11coin.com|192.31.186.3|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.darkcoin.io [following]

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That is absolutely fucking hilarious !!  Grin Grin

`whois x11coin.com`: Registrant Name: EVAN DUFFIELD  Shocked

Darkcoin was originally called X11.

Thanks. Which means that the XC mimics even the domain name...  Grin
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May 28, 2014, 10:13:18 PM
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Paradigm!
If you don't stop saying "paradigm" I'm going to ignore you. I've only suffered you this long because you're at least half-way making a point sort of...

Cut the fluff.

Shhhh... don't tell him about DRK's impending paradigm paradigm.

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May 28, 2014, 10:14:40 PM
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Ill have to give it to them, those x11 guys know how to do their bullshitting and marketing. Peoole with small brains will fall for it. Luckily we have big brains, thats why we own darkcoin.
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May 28, 2014, 10:14:45 PM
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you know what... i love drk just because i enjoy looking when DarkSend do its job

evan just need to focus on removing limit on DarkSend and that will be big stepp for coin

and yea, im not selling any of it even if im broke Cheesy

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