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August 16, 2014, 07:27:11 PM
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If I create a 10k wallet and keep it running, will it solve Camo's problem? Is this something we can try?

YES !!!

But dont expect it to be magical! We need an entire community with open denominated wallets to mix the coins!!
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August 16, 2014, 07:28:30 PM
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If I create a 10k wallet and keep it running, will it solve Camo's problem? Is this something we can try?

YES !!!

But dont expect it to be magical! We need an entire community with open denominated wallets to mix the coins!!
Ok I'll kill 10 of my masternodes for this experiment. Hopefully it works. It would also be good if Evan could take a look at Camo's issue.
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August 16, 2014, 07:28:50 PM
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Fuck this noise. It's my b-day. I'm off to make poor decisions in the company of sordid women,..
Can I try to give you a b-day present by trying to fix your problems?
I'm not trying to avoid your help, sir. I just had a theory and it's taking me some time to test it. So far, it looks like I'm onto it.

Theory: No matter what you set the "Amount of drk to keep anoned" to, if you've got a truckload in your wallet, it skips over all kinds of shit.

I sent 100 to a new wallet, set it anon 100/8deep, flawless...

Sent 7000 to another new wallet, which was set to anon 100/8deep; toot-toot, all aboard the bork train... Never gets the message that it's too soon to split again... The record is skipping for some reason when there's a bigass wallet.


Well... that because apparently, you're one of the fattest wallets on mainnet to actively open your balance to be denominated. As soon as other like you think the same, your tx will be accepted as fast as f*ck (to the prematurely DRK-ejaculated folk).

Denomination works with the powers of numbers. Right now there are many. You can easily anonymise 1 DRK, but 10000 DRK is a lot harder since there are not so many people out there doing the same!
But, I set the limit the same on both. There is apparently a threshold of DRK at which is just goes all wonky no matter what you set the darksend limit to.

Camo... dammit it ... this is too much forum noise. Do you IRC ?
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August 16, 2014, 07:29:46 PM
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Well... that because apparently, you're one of the fattest wallets on mainnet to actively open your balance to be denominated. As soon as other like you think the same, your tx will be accepted as fast as f*ck (to the prematurely DRK-ejaculated folk).

Denomination works with the powers of numbers. Right now there aren't many. You can easily anonymise 1 DRK, but 10000 DRK is a lot harder since there are not so many people out there doing the same!

If I create a 10k wallet and keep it running, will it solve Camo's problem? Is this something we can try?
I could just make myself two 5250 wallets on two VMs and do it myself... Maybe it's a work around, but that doesn't get to the bottom of it.

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August 16, 2014, 07:29:56 PM
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Fuck this noise. It's my b-day. I'm off to make poor decisions in the company of sordid women,..

Can I try to give you a b-day present by trying to fix your problems?

HAHAHAHA!!!! Awesome...I love ..." I'm off to make poor decisions in the company of sordid women..."   CLASSIC ....Camosoul...can I use that line...cause thats awesome.

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August 16, 2014, 07:31:53 PM
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Well... that because apparently, you're one of the fattest wallets on mainnet to actively open your balance to be denominated. As soon as other like you think the same, your tx will be accepted as fast as f*ck (to the prematurely DRK-ejaculated folk).

Denomination works with the powers of numbers. Right now there aren't many. You can easily anonymise 1 DRK, but 10000 DRK is a lot harder since there are not so many people out there doing the same!

If I create a 10k wallet and keep it running, will it solve Camo's problem? Is this something we can try?
I could just make myself two 5250 wallets on two VMs and do it myself... Maybe it's a work around, but that doesn't get to the bottom of it.

....this is interesting! I'm watching this with great interest.  Keep us in the loop sir!

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August 16, 2014, 07:33:05 PM
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NICE! 

We still need enough cash to hire Morgan Freeman for the voice work.  Cool
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August 16, 2014, 07:36:10 PM
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They dump upon every buy support that is built...


Yea I'm starting to think it's manipulation. Pretty irritating.

I'm pretty sure many of those big dumps were real. At least the last one to .006 on mintpal. A 5k wall showed before the dump which proves my theory that altcoin markets are scams. It was probably the market maker ( The Biggest Whale, owner of those annoying bots, pumper ) that got information that 4k drk's arrived on the exchange. So he wanted to spook him to quickly dump and it happened. But how did he know that those coins hit the exchange?!? Mintpal is a fucking scam operation, transfers should be confidential. But I bet other trading centers for altcoins are no better. Making special deals with market makers in return for volume fees.

Probably noone will believe me, people are so gullible thinking this markets is a fair game for little fish...

People are just now catching on that Wall Street is rigged so I'm not surprised if people don't think this kind of thing go happen easy.  Just reading around the forum gives me the impression that small groups of people with the money and means could easily manipulate alt coins.  Sucks for those unaware it is possible but can be rewarding with those paying attention and keeping an open mind especially at times like these..  Wink

I agree.  its possible in wall street and its possible in crypto.  I really think that most of those major holders here are serious backer but you only need a couple to screw things up a bit.  That is the risk.  It only becomes better once there is wider adoption.

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August 16, 2014, 07:36:23 PM
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Testnet n#2 test ....

after 1st success anonymising 5k dark... I've upped the limit to 8k, 4 rounds...  should be left with around 2k non-anonimized.


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August 16, 2014, 07:36:48 PM
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Fuck this noise. It's my b-day. I'm off to make poor decisions in the company of sordid women,..
Can I try to give you a b-day present by trying to fix your problems?
...can I use that line...cause thats awesome.
Even better; it looks like I'll have to wait until Sunday for that...

You don't need my permission. ;-)

I've decided I'm just going to let these things run and go do some sandblasting. My parkerizing fluid has magically transformed itself into rust accelerant again, so I've got a lot of work to do anyway...

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August 16, 2014, 07:37:37 PM
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Well... that because apparently, you're one of the fattest wallets on mainnet to actively open your balance to be denominated. As soon as other like you think the same, your tx will be accepted as fast as f*ck (to the prematurely DRK-ejaculated folk).

Denomination works with the powers of numbers. Right now there aren't many. You can easily anonymise 1 DRK, but 10000 DRK is a lot harder since there are not so many people out there doing the same!

If I create a 10k wallet and keep it running, will it solve Camo's problem? Is this something we can try?
I could just make myself two 5250 wallets on two VMs and do it myself... Maybe it's a work around, but that doesn't get to the bottom of it.
I reported some minor bug at http://jira.darkcoin.qa/ and the genious Holger Schinzel found the problem within 10 hours.  Wink

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August 16, 2014, 07:39:28 PM
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Testnet n#2 ....

after 1st success anonymising 5k dark... I've upped the limit to 8k


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Will keeo you updated...

It interesting that Camosoul is saying that it might be that if the wallet has a super large balance it might be triggering something. ?

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August 16, 2014, 07:40:02 PM
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If just someone could make a coin's mining useful in some way to the mankind ....pure waste of energy ATM  Sad

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Testnet n#2 test ....

after 1st success anonymising 5k dark... I've upped the limit to 8k, 4 rounds...  should be left with around 2k non-anonimized.



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Just bumping 'cos one of my images was wrong.... (8k limit to anon)
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August 16, 2014, 07:45:15 PM
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Fuck this noise. It's my b-day. I'm off to make poor decisions in the company of sordid women,..
Can I try to give you a b-day present by trying to fix your problems?
...can I use that line...cause thats awesome.
Even better; it looks like I'll have to wait until Sunday for that...

You don't need my permission. ;-)

I've decided I'm just going to let these things run and go do some sandblasting. My parkerizing fluid has magically transformed itself into rust accelerant again, so I've got a lot of work to do anyway...

Ok dude... I'm no genius, but I know my masternode network damn well. 0% complaints from dozens customers with dozen OS's and freak setups. Your loss in at least trying.
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August 16, 2014, 07:48:33 PM
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Fuck this noise. It's my b-day. I'm off to make poor decisions in the company of sordid women,..
Can I try to give you a b-day present by trying to fix your problems?
...can I use that line...cause thats awesome.
Even better; it looks like I'll have to wait until Sunday for that...

You don't need my permission. ;-)

I've decided I'm just going to let these things run and go do some sandblasting. My parkerizing fluid has magically transformed itself into rust accelerant again, so I've got a lot of work to do anyway...

Ok dude...  I'm no genius, but I know my masternode network damn well. 0% complaints from dozens customers with dozen OS's and freak setups.

GhostPlayer...he was responding to my request to use his statement...lol.    He's saying he needs to go into the workshop and blow some steam.   I know what he means, cause I some times need to do the same.  Wink   We'll let him go have some fun in the shop and get back at it later on.  

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August 16, 2014, 07:49:35 PM
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Within seconds of pulling the check mark off of "disable darksend" I get payment to self. Then nothing... Set to 100/8. Logs are useless. There's nothing in them except the usual comm traffic, blocks popping, non-updated MNs getting rejected... No DS noise at all.

Other wallet denomed 100/8 really fast. It only has 100 in it.

The only difference is that one wallet is 1% the size of the other. Both are set to denom only 100 at 8 rounds.

Meh, my traceroute is back to being re-routed through northern virginia again...

Coin control shows it's still breaking up into 900 chunks even thought it's set to 100/8.

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Meh, my traceroute is back to being re-routed through northern virginia again...

Who's based in Virginia and funds Tor?  Wink
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August 16, 2014, 07:55:25 PM
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Just to speed things up... I sent myself 17 tDRKS

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Status: 2/unconfirmed, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 8/16/14 12:51
Debit: -17.00000057 DRK
Credit: 17.00000057 DRK
Net amount: 0.00 DRK
Transaction ID: f10007e7a09b72d1dd72efa5cb74351fb4236df91192d0c4e6127f9c551be989



Debug information

Debit: -1.00000001 DRK
Debit: -1.00000001 DRK
Debit: -10.00000001 DRK
Debit: -1.00000001 DRK
Debit: -1.00000001 DRK
Debit: -1.00000001 DRK
Debit: -1.00000001 DRK
Debit: -1.00000001 DRK
Debit: -1.00000001 DRK
Credit: 0.99999952 DRK
Credit: 17.00000057 DRK

Transaction:
CTransaction(hash=f10007e7a09b72d1dd72efa5cb74351fb4236df91192d0c4e6127f9c551be989, ver=1, vin.size=9, vout.size=2, nLockTime=0)
CTxIn(COutPoint(b0d83adce6a167c8d66c7a9b9e613013f4458126673701a59df156175a216422, 11), scriptSig=304502205fb3dae3e7f70e85)
CTxIn(COutPoint(b0d83adce6a167c8d66c7a9b9e613013f4458126673701a59df156175a216422, 13), scriptSig=3046022100821d8738ec3c71)
CTxIn(COutPoint(12cec91e17853165b5477fab48e3b42230b12fd49cac71989e18c16a7696823a, 0), scriptSig=304502210099c7f5a9443ed2)
CTxIn(COutPoint(12cec91e17853165b5477fab48e3b42230b12fd49cac71989e18c16a7696823a, 11), scriptSig=3045022100e4615a7a505eac)
CTxIn(COutPoint(4b42f5cf0186dbf483dba30243f7f1ea11483cc3d6a5a69c7362a3810a144f90, 25), scriptSig=30450221008f1aeb5f77c657)
CTxIn(COutPoint(4b42f5cf0186dbf483dba30243f7f1ea11483cc3d6a5a69c7362a3810a144f90, 30), scriptSig=3045022100d2aee8640e1629)
CTxIn(COutPoint(837f672e71f7841b3dc96a5f7ef8b62f9339b7900be24799a6364fa763490abd, 27), scriptSig=3045022100d6d765ed8ac065)
CTxIn(COutPoint(f2b5b7055a396310d5746237ad6e14db8f16ef6f5c1bb348dce7bffe954d55ce, 0), scriptSig=3046022100c982717cb4224d)
CTxIn(COutPoint(f2b5b7055a396310d5746237ad6e14db8f16ef6f5c1bb348dce7bffe954d55ce, 14), scriptSig=30440220277bb17b6f9aaa87)
CTxOut(nValue=0.99999952, scriptPubKey=OP_DUP OP_HASH160 e9c7e88f9d84)
CTxOut(nValue=17.00000057, scriptPubKey=OP_DUP OP_HASH160 7d1a6442ab6b)

Inputs:
Amount=-0.00000001 DRK IsMine=false
Amount=-0.00000001 DRK IsMine=false
Amount=-0.00000001 DRK IsMine=false
Amount=-0.00000001 DRK IsMine=false
Amount=-0.00000001 DRK IsMine=false
Amount=-0.00000001 DRK IsMine=false
Amount=-0.00000001 DRK IsMine=false
Amount=-0.00000001 DRK IsMine=false
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August 16, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
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Meh, my traceroute is back to being re-routed through northern virginia again...
Who's based in Virginia and funds Tor?  Wink
I'm not using TOR right now... But your point is well taken. I suspect the same.

I bet all these problems clear up instantly if I take this wallet, put it on my laptop, and grab a public WiFi far, far away.

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