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August 17, 2014, 11:42:07 AM
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Very bad Timing.. Lack of confidence plus bitcoin drop seems to put dark in very bad postition.
I Hope so but i dont think we gonna See a trend reversal the next few days. Maybe at ..002 - 003 there will be alot more Support pushing it in the other direction.
Generally Things should be sort out concerning bugs etc.
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August 17, 2014, 11:51:04 AM
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Very bad Timing.. Lack of confidence plus bitcoin drop seems to put dark in very bad postition.
I Hope so but i dont think we gonna See a trend reversal the next few days. Maybe at ..002 - 003 there will be alot more Support pushing it in the other direction.
Generally Things should be sort out concerning bugs etc.

All are short term niggles, med to long term this is the only coin to be in.

Darkcoin, the only fungible crypto currency.
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August 17, 2014, 11:56:52 AM
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what a p&d

altcoincasinogulagshoppingshow FUD is good, look @altcoin prices ...
pls fud me hard via pm
id appriciate that.
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August 17, 2014, 11:57:36 AM
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what a p&d

A painter and decorator?

Darkcoin, the only fungible crypto currency.
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August 17, 2014, 11:58:45 AM
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what a p&d

A painter and decorator?
yes.

altcoincasinogulagshoppingshow FUD is good, look @altcoin prices ...
pls fud me hard via pm
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August 17, 2014, 12:12:58 PM
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Hello Everyone,

If you're running a larger than normal wallet and set "Amount to anonymize" to a really high amount, the client will prioritize money that has not been denominated, in effect denominating the entire amount ONCE (this could look  like the round > 1 bug, but it's not). No input will reach 2 rounds before that amount is met. When the client detects you've reached the threshold you set, it will then start denominating round 2, then 3, etc.

From the looks of the thread all issues users are experiencing are not bugs at this point, just a misunderstanding of how Darksend works. All major bugs have been resolved and I'm going to move on to RC5 and other unique features of Darkcoin that we've had in the works for awhile (I'm going to wait till all of the weak hands have left the building then I have some really cool stuff to announce).

-Evan
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I think "Amount of Darkcoin to keep anonymized" is not the hard cap of "Amount of Darkcoin anonymized"

in ex1) 1000,
founds go round 1, other funds go round 1, round 1 reached 1000, then the 1000 go round 2.
in round 2, it's not reached 1000(fee and change), other funds in round 1 go round 2.
in round 2, it's reached 1000 now, so go round 3.
...
https://i.imgur.com/N07NJfC.png
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https://i.imgur.com/JPtGuOK.png

Ahh, glad you joined that discussion, El Presidente Smiley

However that's what I did in testnet:
1. Grabed 12K from faucet (12x1K) with disabled Darksend and waited for them to confirm.
2. Moved all funds at once to new address (to have only one large input)
3. Enabled Darksend with 8 rounds and amount to keep anonymized eq 100

https://i.imgur.com/YmDn3GR.png
4. Waited....

...and that's what I got:

https://i.imgur.com/wbUHTMD.png

Note no Darksend Denominate transactions there.
So I opened Coin Control and checked all inputs

https://i.imgur.com/C9wsDQr.png

Waited till next split and opened Coin Control again

https://i.imgur.com/Qd4xhMT.png

Only "-2" and "-3" there.... and no coins at round 1...

Last split tx http://test.explorer.darkcoin.qa/tx/eb62d616748e21d8bec05e20a862cea8506fa290b15d740fd4f075898947aaae
You can easily trace back all splits there (starting from the oldest here vvv)
f1a419693bda029cad03e9ebbe13a4cc99fc2b8ff1b46e014f0d46b49a23f44a
c2812398de76204a2aaf40bfea745fbb8ceda2a45d9192a956eaba932f01396a
3b0a38b07a53e8229abe6222b928b9cef568b83c13eb8fdfbda4466e0b50c96e
d36e8dc604809bdf4727251d18d8b9187d64eceee1babcb17864137470bbbee1
b5e2696bcbf3f6f687a9a5f9c0891f3a494a7a22724924507128d4484c2e9337
fa2e8845ded8b69c780ae74c787f6338c3bb58f1c25eb66b676cb0dd3928003a
eb62d616748e21d8bec05e20a862cea8506fa290b15d740fd4f075898947aaae

DASH: XsV4GHVKGTjQFvwB7c6mYsGV3Mxf7iser6
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August 17, 2014, 12:22:16 PM
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I also won't be selling my DRKs, that's a long term baby!

That's why I included DRK in our little crypto project. Please let me know what you think guys:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742777.0
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August 17, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
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hmmm where are we
capitulation or dispair
id say capitulation

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August 17, 2014, 12:36:04 PM
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I also won't be selling my DRKs, that's a long term baby!

That's why I included DRK in our little crypto project. Please let me know what you think guys:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742777.0

Thats great, everyone wants to be a bag holder these days. Are any auction sites actually using DRK for purchases?
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August 17, 2014, 12:36:36 PM
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Hello Everyone,

If you're running a larger than normal wallet and set "Amount to anonymize" to a really high amount, the client will prioritize money that has not been denominated, in effect denominating the entire amount ONCE (this could look  like the round > 1 bug, but it's not). No input will reach 2 rounds before that amount is met. When the client detects you've reached the threshold you set, it will then start denominating round 2, then 3, etc.

From the looks of the thread all issues users are experiencing are not bugs at this point, just a misunderstanding of how Darksend works. All major bugs have been resolved and I'm going to move on to RC5 and other unique features of Darkcoin that we've had in the works for awhile (I'm going to wait till all of the weak hands have left the building then I have some really cool stuff to announce).

-Evan
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I think "Amount of Darkcoin to keep anonymized" is not the hard cap of "Amount of Darkcoin anonymized"

in ex1) 1000,
founds go round 1, other funds go round 1, round 1 reached 1000, then the 1000 go round 2.
in round 2, it's not reached 1000(fee and change), other funds in round 1 go round 2.
in round 2, it's reached 1000 now, so go round 3.
...
https://i.imgur.com/N07NJfC.png
...
https://i.imgur.com/JPtGuOK.png

Ahh, glad you joined that discussion, El Presidente Smiley

However that's what I did in testnet:
1. Grabed 12K from faucet (12x1K) with disabled Darksend and waited for them to confirm.
2. Moved all funds at once to new address (to have only one large input)
3. Enabled Darksend with 8 rounds and amount to keep anonymized eq 100
https://i.imgur.com/YmDn3GR.png
4. Waited....

...and that's what I got:
https://i.imgur.com/wbUHTMD.png

Note no Darksend Denominate transactions there.
So I opened Coin Control and checked all inputs
https://i.imgur.com/C9wsDQr.png

Waited till next split and opened Coin Control again
https://i.imgur.com/Qd4xhMT.png

Only "-2" and "-3" there.... and no coins at round 1...

Last split tx http://test.explorer.darkcoin.qa/tx/eb62d616748e21d8bec05e20a862cea8506fa290b15d740fd4f075898947aaae
You can easily trace back all splits there (starting from the oldest here vvv)
f1a419693bda029cad03e9ebbe13a4cc99fc2b8ff1b46e014f0d46b49a23f44a
c2812398de76204a2aaf40bfea745fbb8ceda2a45d9192a956eaba932f01396a
3b0a38b07a53e8229abe6222b928b9cef568b83c13eb8fdfbda4466e0b50c96e
d36e8dc604809bdf4727251d18d8b9187d64eceee1babcb17864137470bbbee1
b5e2696bcbf3f6f687a9a5f9c0891f3a494a7a22724924507128d4484c2e9337
fa2e8845ded8b69c780ae74c787f6338c3bb58f1c25eb66b676cb0dd3928003a
eb62d616748e21d8bec05e20a862cea8506fa290b15d740fd4f075898947aaae

What happens if you keep waiting? It seems to me that since you started with one huge input that it needs to do a large number of "splits" and it is just not finished yet.  Given that splits occur 1 time every 10 blocks for this scenario I would imagine that this step would take a very long time...

Or did the splits just stop randomly at one point? (link to test block explorer is not working for me for some reason)
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August 17, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
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i did a test of a large amount on Testnet, these are the results :

Total Balance (before Anonymization) : 2999.96
Total Balance (after  Anonymization) : 2999.74
Anonymized : 2996.00000028

Number of Darksend Rounds : 4
Amount of Darkcoin to keep anonymized : 2500
Total time to process : 2 hrs 12 minutes
Number of payments to myself (fee 0.001) : 4
Number of Darksend Denominate (fee 0.0125) : 17

http://imgur.com/PRJrpru
http://imgur.com/an0puZ2
http://imgur.com/LGfiEUz
http://imgur.com/1NqwFNp

Will now try one with 8 rounds .. testing on Testnet goes really smooth today, must be a lot of ppl testing right now on Testnet Smiley
 
 

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August 17, 2014, 12:53:26 PM
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i did a test of a large amount on Testnet, these are the results :

Total Balance (before Anonymization) : 2999.96
Total Balance (after  Anonymization) : 2999.74
Anonymized : 2996.00000028

Number of Darksend Rounds : 4
Amount of Darkcoin to keep anonymized : 2500
Total time to process : 2 hrs 12 minutes
Number of payments to myself (fee 0.001) : 4
Number of Darksend Denominate (fee 0.0125) : 17

http://imgur.com/PRJrpru
http://imgur.com/an0puZ2
http://imgur.com/LGfiEUz
http://imgur.com/1NqwFNp
 

some people think large starts at 10,000 DRK......
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August 17, 2014, 12:57:02 PM
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I think the weak hands have all cashed out now, bottom was 0.005 BTC and trend reversal has kicked in. Not 100% sure, but fairly confident. This is where I start accumulating more DRK, just freed up 10 BTC. Price is likely to receive a further boost after Evan announces plan RC5 and beyond. I expect this will happen tomorrow, since he has probably taken the weekend off after all the hard work.

Back to the weak hands excuse?


Now it's RC5  that will boost DRK?

Just keep moving the goal posts.
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August 17, 2014, 12:58:17 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1X6qQt9ONg

The day bitcoin had a crash below $1. Those that purchased at those prices, are living the life of rich fuckers.

I'm gonna be a rich fucker if you guys help crash the price of Darkcoin.

Thanks for working for me. You are my bitches.


nope, you are pulling that from your ass, the whole trades were reversed...

Trades were reversed.....that implies BTC and or fiat accumulation was the end game. That there is the issue. Its not. Privacy is the issue.

Riddle me this....

Publication of the owner of a single Bitcoin address can yield an incredible amount of personal financial information, information that cannot be put ‘back in the box’ – it will be available forever, encoded into the blockchain. This is the sort of information that law enforcement agencies would typically need to subpoena a bank for; instead right now we offer it to the entire Internet.

We haven’t yet seen significant involvement from consumer privacy agencies at the Foundation, but I believe they will be horrified when they understand just how much private financial data is being broadcast and permanently recorded.

This information directly impacts citizens living under repressive governments. It could cause physical harm to a woman whose finances are controlled by her pimp or her kidnapper. The knowledge of transactions can be combined with violence to limit any human’s fundamental right to transact economically.

It seems therefore critical that we do everything we can to support efforts that enhance this privacy from global inspection.

BY PETER VESSENES, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, APRIL 5, 2014

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/04/annual-letter-from-the-chairman/

Another troll trying to profit off the back of DRK.
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August 17, 2014, 12:59:44 PM
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people still having problems with RC4 ?
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August 17, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
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I think the weak hands have all cashed out now, bottom was 0.005 BTC and trend reversal has kicked in. Not 100% sure, but fairly confident. This is where I start accumulating more DRK, just freed up 10 BTC. Price is likely to receive a further boost after Evan announces plan RC5 and beyond. I expect this will happen tomorrow, since he has probably taken the weekend off after all the hard work.

Back to the weak hands excuse?


Now it's RC5  that will boost DRK?

Just keep moving the goal posts.


Can you tell me how long it took Bitcoin to go from launch to $1, including an assessment of how long it was in development prior to launch.
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August 17, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
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i did a test of a large amount on Testnet, these are the results :

Total Balance (before Anonymization) : 2999.96
Total Balance (after  Anonymization) : 2999.74
Anonymized : 2996.00000028

Number of Darksend Rounds : 4
Amount of Darkcoin to keep anonymized : 2500
Total time to process : 2 hrs 12 minutes
Number of payments to myself (fee 0.001) : 4
Number of Darksend Denominate (fee 0.0125) : 17

http://imgur.com/PRJrpru
http://imgur.com/an0puZ2
http://imgur.com/LGfiEUz
http://imgur.com/1NqwFNp
 

some people think large starts at 10,000 DRK......

okay i will transfer 10.000 from test faucet to my wallet (so i get in total some 13000) and start with 8 rounds .. with amount of Darkcoin to keep anonymized : 12000
lets see what happens...
 

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August 17, 2014, 01:02:44 PM
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I think the weak hands have all cashed out now, bottom was 0.005 BTC and trend reversal has kicked in. Not 100% sure, but fairly confident. This is where I start accumulating more DRK, just freed up 10 BTC. Price is likely to receive a further boost after Evan announces plan RC5 and beyond. I expect this will happen tomorrow, since he has probably taken the weekend off after all the hard work.

Back to the weak hands excuse?


Now it's RC5  that will boost DRK?

Just keep moving the goal posts.


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August 17, 2014, 01:02:56 PM
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i did a test of a large amount on Testnet, these are the results :

Total Balance (before Anonymization) : 2999.96
Total Balance (after  Anonymization) : 2999.74
Anonymized : 2996.00000028

Number of Darksend Rounds : 4
Amount of Darkcoin to keep anonymized : 2500
Total time to process : 2 hrs 12 minutes
Number of payments to myself (fee 0.001) : 4
Number of Darksend Denominate (fee 0.0125) : 17

http://imgur.com/PRJrpru
http://imgur.com/an0puZ2
http://imgur.com/LGfiEUz
http://imgur.com/1NqwFNp
 

some people think large starts at 10,000 DRK......

okay i will transfer 10.000 from test faucet to my wallet (so i get in total some 13000) and start with 8 rounds .. with amount of Darkcoin to keep anonymized : 12000
lets see what happens...
 

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Thanks......
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August 17, 2014, 01:04:36 PM
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I think the weak hands have all cashed out now, bottom was 0.005 BTC and trend reversal has kicked in. Not 100% sure, but fairly confident. This is where I start accumulating more DRK, just freed up 10 BTC. Price is likely to receive a further boost after Evan announces plan RC5 and beyond. I expect this will happen tomorrow, since he has probably taken the weekend off after all the hard work.

Back to the weak hands excuse?


Now it's RC5  that will boost DRK?

Just keep moving the goal posts.


I think in this case "weak hands" is big winner.

Let explained

Man go to bank and teller say give me your 5 dollar bill and I will give you back 25 new 1 dollar bills in return.

Smart man say "Yes this is great deal"!

Drk bagholder say "no I like my 5 dollar bill so I just keep it".  Cheesy
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