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[stonehedge]

Hi All,

I’m making an extremely difficult public statement to hopefully provide a warning to the Dash community.

On Sunday morning I managed to lose all of my Darkcoins on Directbet dice.  The total loss was 28,000DRK and represents all of my holdings.  My mistake was simple…make a big loss and then lose track desperately trying to win it back.  I have made enquiries with various parties about buying back in but unfortunately I do not have enough FIAT to do so.

This happened incredibly easily.  I am a man who has never gambled before being involved in crypto althouh I have done consultancy work for gambling companies in the past.  I was a regular better on Directbet and almost always ended up breaking even or finishing up on the day.  On Sunday, circumstances, bad decisions and maths caught up with me.

With regard to Directbet I believe their dice game is provably fair in terms of probablity and maths however I have some concerns at how their site was functioning under a DDOS attack at the time.  

When I asked Directbet some simple questions about my losses their answers have been at times  contradictory and not aligned with my experiences which I find to be quite troubling.  Directbet have also refused to provide me with a contact address so that I can formally ask a list of questions via my solicitor.  Whilst I take full responsibility for my actions I also feel that I may not have made such a huge initial loss if Directbet had suspended betting while their site was under attack and inaccessible.  I was unable to see a visual reference of how much I had won or lost and I believe this contributed to a lack of visibility of my actions and to contributed to me making such a huge initial loss.  Obviously my attempts to win my coins back was my decision alone.

I believe that probably fair is not just about maths, it is also about providing a level playing field for your customers.

Despite the significant financial loss that I have incurred, one of the worst feelings for me is the fact that the thousands of hours I have invested in Darkcoin/Dash will never bare fruit for me.  I take some comfort in the fact that those of you who hold on to your darkcoins might reap some rewards. I do have roughly 1.5DRK left so if you could all work really hard and make that worth $100k I’d be reall grateful

I don’t feel that am able to continue to work on Dash so I asked Evan to remove me from the team website on Monday.  I am also extremely frustrated because most of my business contacts were waiting for a rebranding before they adopted Dash.  When I feel less sore about what has happened I will pull the details of those contacts together and pass them on to Fernando/Minotaur and who knows I might be at peace with myself enough to follow up some leads myself.

Beyond the financial loss I have unforgiveably let my family down and this breaks my heart most of all.

I’ll always be hoping and looking for a way to rebuild my Dash but I expect that the future is too bright for the coin for me to ever afford it.

Don’t be lulled into a false sense of security people.  Bet sensibly.  I didn’t and I’m a broken man.

2014 and 2015 have not been kind to me crypto-wise.  In total I have either had stolen or thrown away the equivalent of nearly 50k DRK.  Protect your wallets too!

Much love.

Dan

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[Freckleg]

Of you spend half of the time you now spend on other coin forums and put in in development of Monero it could well be a successful project. Good luck and cheerio

[Rux]

if evan sell this project we will find his house and burn it to the ground hahahahahaha

guys, we are almost at price before vertoe dumped his coins

so when you think about it, after change name announcement we recovered like PROs

0.013 on weekend?

EDIT:
stonehedge man that really hurts man... yesterday i lost 24 DRK ... and before that much more... really i can say to all new guys, DONT GAMBLE with your coins just leave them

i was also guy who never gambled in his life... then last year i found that i can "easy" profit from gambling, man i was wrong!

when DRK was 0.003 i gambled like 3-4k DRK like its nothing, now i would like to cry but what you can do ... nothing !

Stonehedge i think this is not the reason you would drop on DASH, stay with us!

[smooth]

Of you spend half of the time you now spend on other coin forums and put in in development of Monero it could well be a successful project. Good luck and cheerio

Has it occurred to you that I can walk and chew gum at the same time?

[pille]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtKADQnjQmc

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YEA, when we celebrate the 1$/mDash party I will join you to host a 80's floor. But with Vinyls please. I'll arrive with a Countach

[pookielax31]

Is vertoe the same as the verto that cashed out Evo and ran off with all the money?

[RenegadeMan]

Hi All,

I’m making an extremely difficult public statement to hopefully provide a warning to the Dash community.

On Sunday morning I managed to lose all of my Darkcoins on Directbet dice.  The total loss was 28,000DRK and represents all of my holdings.  My mistake was simple…make a big loss and then lose track desperately trying to win it back.  I have made enquiries with various parties about buying back in but unfortunately I do not have enough FIAT to do so.

This happened incredibly easily.  I am a man who has never gambled before being involved in crypto althouh I have done consultancy work for gambling companies in the past.  I was a regular better on Directbet and almost always ended up breaking even or finishing up on the day.  On Sunday, circumstances, bad decisions and maths caught up with me.

With regard to Directbet I believe their dice game is provably fair in terms of probablity and maths however I have some concerns at how their site was functioning under a DDOS attack at the time.  

When I asked Directbet some simple questions about my losses their answers have been at times  contradictory and not aligned with my experiences which I find to be quite troubling.  Directbet have also refused to provide me with a contact address so that I can formally ask a list of questions via my solicitor.  Whilst I take full responsibility for my actions I also feel that I may not have made such a huge initial loss if Directbet had suspended betting while their site was under attack and inaccessible.  I was unable to see a visual reference of how much I had won or lost and I believe this contributed to a lack of visibility of my actions and to contributed to me making such a huge initial loss.  Obviously my attempts to win my coins back was my decision alone.

I believe that probably fair is not just about maths, it is also about providing a level playing field for your customers.

Despite the significant financial loss that I have incurred, one of the worst feelings for me is the fact that the thousands of hours I have invested in Darkcoin/Dash will never bare fruit for me.  I take some comfort in the fact that those of you who hold on to your darkcoins might reap some rewards. I do have roughly 1.5DRK left so if you could all work really hard and make that worth $100k I’d be reall grateful

I don’t feel that am able to continue to work on Dash so I asked Evan to remove me from the team website on Monday.  I am also extremely frustrated because most of my business contacts were waiting for a rebranding before they adopted Dash.  When I feel less sore about what has happened I will pull the details of those contacts together and pass them on to Fernando/Minotaur and who knows I might be at peace with myself enough to follow up some leads myself.

Beyond the financial loss I have unforgiveably let my family down and this breaks my heart most of all.

I’ll always be hoping and looking for a way to rebuild my Dash but I expect that the future is too bright for the coin for me to ever afford it.

Don’t be lulled into a false sense of security people.  Bet sensibly.  I didn’t and I’m a broken man.

2014 and 2015 have not been kind to me crypto-wise.  In total I have either had stolen or thrown away the equivalent of nearly 50k DRK.  Protect your wallets too!

Much love.

Dan

Oh stonehedge! I am so very sorry to read of this. When Otoh mentioned the other day about a gambler losing 28,000 DRK I didn't for a second think it would be one of "our own". This is just a terrible outcome and I really feel for how poorly you must be feeling.

Don't beat yourself up completely (but obviously you have to have a good look at yourself which your incredibly brave posting is the beginning of).

All of us here have very much appreciated all that you've inputted into DRK/DASH over all this time.

You're good guy.

Sometimes "good guys" really stuff-up, but often they pull themselves up again and fix the failures. This can be you if you hold onto the right sense of your purpose and destiny. Big shocks and knocks help build character.

You'll come through this and be okay again.

All the very best.

RenegadeMan

[Rux]

i think one portion of that 28.000 DRK was this dump on cryptsy

http://prntscr.com/6i9c4b

good to know that those coins were dumped

[RenegadeMan]

Is vertoe the same as the verto that cashed out Evo and ran off with all the money?

Was just wondering that myself, given his penchant for dark markets.

Here's a Forbes article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/03/18/evolution-market-a-scam-says-site-pr/

I truly hope not.

[toknormal]

Inconvenient truths and questions about direction are not attacks.

They are when they're made by conflicted non-interested parties (non-holders).

[aleix]

I'm so sorry. Really. 

[Rux]

I'm so sorry. Really. 

yea i lost small portion and i was so angry...i cant imagine him now )

[pookielax31]

So doesnt that mean that 28k dark gonna be dumped on market?

[JGCMiner]

Let's Talk Bitcoin! #196 Distortions towards Privacy

On Todays Show Matthew interviews Evan of the Darkcoin project for an in-depth look at how one community has attacked and perhaps solved many of the privacy concerns that are a part of Bitcoin.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-196-distortions-towards-privacy-or-many-hands-makes-light-work
 

Bump

Anyone interested in DASH/DRK should listen. Everything you need to know about this project wrapped into an easy-to-understand 45 minute interview.

[stonehedge]

So doesnt that mean that 28k dark gonna be dumped on market?

Directbet dumped them shortly after my wallet was empty.  You can see on Cryptsy.

[Rux]

i think one portion of that 28.000 DRK was this dump on cryptsy

http://prntscr.com/6i9c4b

good to know that those coins were dumped

do i need to quote my self?

[stonehedge]

I'm so sorry. Really.  

yea i lost small portion and i was so angry...i cant imagine him now )

I just desperately want to turn back time.  I actually woke up this morning and wasn't sure it was real.  I had to open my wallet to confirm that I am actually living a nightmare.

I know it is pathetic and desperate but I'm just hoping that one of these guys reads about my mistake and offers me a way back in that I can afford   https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/#!wallets

[smooth]

Inconvenient truths and questions about direction are not attacks.

They are when they're made by conflicted non-interested parties (non-holders).

Facts are facts, and I don't falsely claim to be unconflicted, so no one should be misled. I could likewise say that all the repetitive cheerleading that goes on by self interested parties (holders) is inappropriate and ethically dubious shilling. Don't expect it to be unchallenged and unopposed on an open forum.

As for non-interested you are right, though. I shall buy 1 DRK shortly to go along with the 6000 dashcoin I hold. Happy now?

Stonehenge, that sucks. Sorry to hear about your bad experience and best of luck getting your life on track where you want it to go.

[Freckleg]

Oh it hurts to read your story. Thanks for all your time invested. You will bounce back!

[RenegadeMan]

So doesnt that mean that 28k dark gonna be dumped on market?

Directbet dumped them shortly after my wallet was empty.  You can see on Cryptsy.

I think this was it.