[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Sorry Peter Todd, but you apparently are guilty of peddling some fine snake oil yourself:



Trolls gonna troll...  

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/03/bitcoin-to-be-6th-largest-reserve-currency-by-2030-research.html

[iCEBREAKER]

There seems to be no support for dash...  2MN and we go down to 0.003 :/

Buy Orders
Total: 38 BTC

This number has been collapsing for weeks.

Thanks to Greg Maxwell's Confidential Transactions, Bitcoin will have better privacy than Darkcoin DASH ever did.

And since Evolusham is the dev's main focus now,  CT will probably be implemented in BTC long before DASH gets masternode blinding, i2p, etc.

Dash is obviously on life support, which is why the usual cheerleaders are suspiciously absent.

[TanteStefana2]

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That looks pretty much centralized  

It also doesn't show south America, South Africa, and S/E Asia and Austrailia. we have a few there too

[sangoku]

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That looks pretty much centralized  

Bitcoin same

https://bitnodes.21.co/

[coins101]

Masternode Geographic Loactions Worldwide  
(edit: the dashnodes site that provides that graph got offline so i can't provide an accurate map containing all 3308 masternodes)

http://178.254.18.153/~pub/Dash/Masternodes_Map.html

Thanks for that info! Cool looking map indeed!
Funny how one node is located in the ocean outside of central Africa. Someone hosting a node on a ship?

I'm thinking... Atlantis ? Someone found it and started a masternode there ? 

Someone rowing across the Atlantic to the Miami conference. Keep refreshing, the MN moves. Honest.

[TanteStefana2]

Masternode Geographic Loactions Worldwide  
(edit: the dashnodes site that provides that graph got offline so i can't provide an accurate map containing all 3308 masternodes)

http://178.254.18.153/~pub/Dash/Masternodes_Map.html

Thanks for that info! Cool looking map indeed!
Funny how one node is located in the ocean outside of central Africa. Someone hosting a node on a ship?

I'm thinking... Atlantis ? Someone found it and started a masternode there ? 

Someone rowing across the Atlantic to the Miami conference. Keep refreshing, the MN moves. Honest.

LOL, could be?  Someone might be running it on their ship?

[TanteStefana2]

Wow, Dash is dropping, and I can't help but wonder if people are buying BTC in hopes it's going to go above 1000 again?  I've gotten burned trying to play the market myself, so I won't go there, LOL.

But god, I wish I had some BTC to buy Dash with!

[MasterMined710]

Wow, Dash is dropping, and I can't help but wonder if people are buying BTC in hopes it's going to go above 1000 again?  I've gotten burned trying to play the market myself, so I won't go there, LOL.

But god, I wish I had some BTC to buy Dash with!

they are selling Dash for btc then cashing out to fiat before the btc bubble burst.

[ImI]

its nothing unsusual in a bitcoin-runup. 2013 it was the same, altcoins went south pretty hard for months. but there comes a point where the sentiment changes and that can be very profitable...

[Bridgewater]

Speaking of moving users from BTC to DASH.  I was thinking we could address the bitcoin lack of nodes with an advertising campaign.  Would it be possible to run bitcoin nodes, but instead of just letting standard transactions go through it adds a transaction with a note?  Something like this.
DASH has Instantx - dashpay.io

Link for how to do it.  Maybe this isn't something a node can do without actually initiating a transaction.
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/31972/how-to-add-additional-information-to-transaction

Or maybe add a banner to the bitcoin block explorers.  So those that keep checking if their transaction is confirmed will see DASH as the faster alternative.
Why wait 10 minutes for a block confirmation?  DASH has InstantX.

I'm not sure demonizing doe-eyed Chinese Bitcoin investors' shiny new assets is the best way to attract them.  You don't want to scare them all the way back to fiat.  

Rather, the strategic thing to do right now would be to get them keen on diversifying their crypto portfolios without implying bitcoin is a risky investment compared to alts.

They already like bitcoin, but it is a safe, one-trick pony. When they get bored they'll be on the hunt for something "different" (not less risky) than bitcoin which offers more features and better short-term growth potential.  

Lulls in bitcoin growth might be better times to promote Dash's long-term prospects by highlighting bitcoin's drawbacks, as this is most likely when investors start reevaluating their long-term positions. Its lack of full-node incentives, transaction speed limits, fungibility problems and impotent governance means bitcoin's long term future as a singularly powerful end-user world currency is uncertain. When investors are thorougly convinced that bitcoin really works now, but question its future adequacy as an ideal money for everybody--that's the time when Dash's superior monetary properties and killer features will become very attractive to them.

Anyway, I think bitcoin is still the gateway into alts I would not want to make new investors feel that bitcoin is unsafe. Dash still needs to ride its coattails for a while.  In the meantime, we should be promoting dash's features in the light of "if you think Bitcoin is great, you'll LOVE Dash," and be careful not to stray too far to an image that says "bitcoin will collapse, you should sell it all and buy Dash."

[toknormal]

Thanks to Greg Maxwell's Confidential Transactions, Bitcoin will have better privacy

Actually, Confidential Transactions doesn't do a thing for bitcoin privacy except for those few which are left to 'cook' for a couple of days in order to gain enough 'security' to recast themselves as a new currency and totally blow the coin supply's fungibility to kingdom come in the process.

Of course if you need them quickly you can always do a 'swap' with someone who's already 'morphed' theirs, but don't expect any freebies - everything's at a premium.

(Wait a minute - scratches head - we now have a distinct currency, with a distinct trading price but with no independent liquidity so it transmits its volatility all over the market including into bitcoin itself ? It's bitcoin's siamese twin ! If bitcoin had been born with such a defect, devs would be falling over themselves working out how to separate them  ).

[italeffect]

Ouch.

[RenegadeMan]

It also doesn't show south America, South Africa, and S/E Asia and Austrailia. we have a few there too

Thank you TanteStefana. I was feeling quite left out with my entire country (Australia) completely unrepresented on this map (along with all the others you've noted). It wouldn't be the first time we've been forgotten about (and it won't be the last). We're only a little over 1% of the world's GDP but we're still a $1.5 trillion economy, so bigger than many other countries will much larger populations.

[DrkLvr_]

But god, I wish I had some BTC to buy Dash with!

This is why you have no BTC. Learn to not buy fraud crap coins and admit when you made a mistake 

[DrkLvr_]

Thanks to Greg Maxwell's Confidential Transactions, Bitcoin will have better privacy

Actually, Confidential Transactions doesn't do a thing for bitcoin privacy except for those few which are left to 'cook' for a couple of days in order to gain enough 'security' to recast themselves as a new currency and totally blow the coin supply's fungibility to kingdom come in the process.

Of course if you need them quickly you can always do a 'swap' with someone who's already 'morphed' theirs, but don't expect any freebies - everything's at a premium.

(Wait a minute - scratches head - we now have a distinct currency, with a distinct trading price but with no independent liquidity so it transmits its volatility all over the market including into bitcoin itself ? It's bitcoin's siamese twin ! If bitcoin had been born with such a defect, devs would be falling over themselves working out how to separate them  ).

DASH will go to zero and you will still be cheerleading for DASH 

[noah tall]

Funny how one node is located in the ocean outside of central Africa. Someone hosting a node on a ship?

<clue>
I built one of the first data driven websites back in the 90s which mapped the geographic location of an asset onto a live map.  We would sometimes have a railroad car appear on that exact spot.
</clue>

[toknormal]

DASH will go to zero and you will still be cheerleading for DASH 

Really ? This is nearly a 2-year old project now.

Check back this thread over a couple of years. You'll find clones of yourself littering it all the way back to January 2014.

Find a more-modern-mantra-to-mumble  

[RenegadeMan]

DASH will go to zero and you will still be cheerleading for DASH 

Really ? This is nearly a 2-year old project now.

Check back this thread over a couple of years. You'll find clones of yourself littering it all the way back to January 2014.

Find a more-modern-mantra-to-mumble  

Yes. We're supposed to all pack up and go home simply because one low-post forum buffoon comes on and blurts out some stupidity.

This project's been progressing very well for a long time now. Just because we're currently subject to a price drop because of the BTC rally means nothing long-term.

Give us a break DrkLvr_ and go find something more useful to apply yourself to.

[Solarminer]

Speaking of moving users from BTC to DASH.  I was thinking we could address the bitcoin lack of nodes with an advertising campaign.  Would it be possible to run bitcoin nodes, but instead of just letting standard transactions go through it adds a transaction with a note?  Something like this.
DASH has Instantx - dashpay.io

Link for how to do it.  Maybe this isn't something a node can do without actually initiating a transaction.
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/31972/how-to-add-additional-information-to-transaction

Or maybe add a banner to the bitcoin block explorers.  So those that keep checking if their transaction is confirmed will see DASH as the faster alternative.
Why wait 10 minutes for a block confirmation?  DASH has InstantX.

I'm not sure demonizing doe-eyed Chinese Bitcoin investors' shiny new assets is the best way to attract them.  You don't want to scare them all the way back to fiat.  

Rather, the strategic thing to do right now would be to get them keen on diversifying their crypto portfolios without implying bitcoin is a risky investment compared to alts.

They already like bitcoin, but it is a safe, one-trick pony. When they get bored they'll be on the hunt for something "different" (not less risky) than bitcoin which offers more features and better short-term growth potential.  

Lulls in bitcoin growth might be better times to promote Dash's long-term prospects by highlighting bitcoin's drawbacks, as this is most likely when investors start reevaluating their long-term positions. Its lack of full-node incentives, transaction speed limits, fungibility problems and impotent governance means bitcoin's long term future as a singularly powerful end-user world currency is uncertain. When investors are thorougly convinced that bitcoin really works now, but question its future adequacy as an ideal money for everybody--that's the time when Dash's superior monetary properties and killer features will become very attractive to them.

Anyway, I think bitcoin is still the gateway into alts I would not want to make new investors feel that bitcoin is unsafe. Dash still needs to ride its coattails for a while.  In the meantime, we should be promoting dash's features in the light of "if you think Bitcoin is great, you'll LOVE Dash," and be careful not to stray too far to an image that says "bitcoin will collapse, you should sell it all and buy Dash."

I wasn't trying to say Bitcoin was unsafe....just slow...then showing a faster option when the BTC user is feeling the pain while waiting for a block confirmation.  We definitely don't want to indicate Bitcoin or crypto is unsafe, then we go backwards.  Soon enough the central banks will screw up one last time and the real jump to crypto will happen.

Pssst.  Ignore the trolls please, even the new one.

[Solarminer]

Thanks to Greg Maxwell's Confidential Transactions, Bitcoin will have better privacy

Actually, Confidential Transactions doesn't do a thing for bitcoin privacy except for those few which are left to 'cook' for a couple of days in order to gain enough 'security' to recast themselves as a new currency and totally blow the coin supply's fungibility to kingdom come in the process.

Of course if you need them quickly you can always do a 'swap' with someone who's already 'morphed' theirs, but don't expect any freebies - everything's at a premium.

(Wait a minute - scratches head - we now have a distinct currency, with a distinct trading price but with no independent liquidity so it transmits its volatility all over the market including into bitcoin itself ? It's bitcoin's siamese twin ! If bitcoin had been born with such a defect, devs would be falling over themselves working out how to separate them  ).

I am sure the confidential transactions will just get denied by Coinbase, Bitpay, etc. so it really doesn't solve anything.  It is interesting that they can encrypting part of the BTC transaction while adding a memo without changing the transaction size.  There must be some potential to compress BTC transactions.  Maybe DASH could be compressing transactions to reduce size....maybe that's already in place....don't know.