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February 28, 2014, 10:44:24 PM |
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DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying:
"DarkCoin is digital cash."
+1 But that's why I think its better to call it D-coin or something else (not related to dark) New people will think that darkcoin is related to illegal things and thats not the intention, idea of it. Maybe it will scare/put off (I don't know the right word) some people...No? I tend to agree with this. The name itself will be the reason darkcoin is never widely accepted by, er, "normal" people (also can't think of the right word sorry). It doesn't matter how great it is, give it a shady or evil sounding name and it's doomed. The name is irrelevant, Bitcoin was not adopted because its name but more so because of libertarian values and adopters/enthusiasts being aware of what is going on the economy/banking. If dark can provide anonymous "dark" transactions it could be called purple unicorn coins for all I care.. Dark is good branding for people in the know ie tor darknet stuff. If joe blow isn't aware of what dark means he will soon enough.. with every Snowden leak or bullshit passed law/corrupt lawless judge's decision is making people more aware. It is like built in marketing because we all know what governments agenda is just like how cypress bumped up bitcoin. I could give 2 shits about branding and market cap. Freedom is where it's at, make a coin that facilitates free commerce even silk road style commerce that bypasses bullshit laws and market cap & awareness will take care of itself. Makes me wonder why people are here promoting an anonymous coin if they care about mainstream perceptions.. perhaps cat coin is the better choice for them. +5000 We live in a disgusting tyrannical era of financial enslavement. Period. I just wish bitcoin had ZERO value/tradeability for fiat as it is, these scumbags will just run the printing press and corner us that way. If the U.S. Dollar / insert other real life scamfiat had any real value, distribution, or any fairness whatsoever in earnings without taxes raping all of it and more, crypto wouldn't be as big as it is right now. Stop worrying about what the sheep think. As a side note: The establishment won't use the printing press to acquire the BTCs they need (to control the price and the alt-coin ecosystem). BTCs are very scarce. 1 BTC corresponds to ~500 ounces of gold or 15kg (12mn btc vs 180.000 tons). If you were to increase your holdings by buying your way to a larger share of the pie, the price would skyrocket. People would then say "whoa, look at Bitcoin" and thus would go along with the pump, making the difficulty of the establishment even larger, and Bitcoin would be a "smash" for making people rich. It'd be better than the lottery. They'd rather do it through shady deals with hackers and exchanges, FBI raids, or by playing the political decisions/news game through which they can artificially crash the currency for a short while to buy their positions from panic sellers. They take the decisions, they show the news etc so from that point onward it's a simple process to exploit the traders addiction to the latest news. They do these stuff in cycles, taking chunks of the pie at each cycle. Additionally, when they are crashing the price, they create negative psychology for the people involved, instead of positive that would be the outcome of buying their way up and raising the prices. That is an essential component of their strategy because, otherwise, even if they paid 100 bn to acquire the majority of BTCs, people would then go to alternative coins as the new eldorado - exactly what happened on November-December of '13. So the establishment would then have to keep up into buying the other currencies as well, making every single alt-coin a "sure hit" because they'd have to buy into it with a large percentage. And they won't do that, no. It's better to play the crashing game, the hacking game, the confiscation game etc. |
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February 28, 2014, 10:48:57 PM |
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DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying:
"DarkCoin is digital cash."
+1 But that's why I think its better to call it D-coin or something else (not related to dark) New people will think that darkcoin is related to illegal things and thats not the intention, idea of it. Maybe it will scare/put off (I don't know the right word) some people...No? I tend to agree with this. The name itself will be the reason darkcoin is never widely accepted by, er, "normal" people (also can't think of the right word sorry). It doesn't matter how great it is, give it a shady or evil sounding name and it's doomed. The name is irrelevant, Bitcoin was not adopted because its name but more so because of libertarian values and adopters/enthusiasts being aware of what is going on the economy/banking. If dark can provide anonymous "dark" transactions it could be called purple unicorn coins for all I care.. Dark is good branding for people in the know ie tor darknet stuff. If joe blow isn't aware of what dark means he will soon enough.. with every Snowden leak or bullshit passed law/corrupt lawless judge's decision is making people more aware. It is like built in marketing because we all know what governments agenda is just like how cypress bumped up bitcoin. I could give 2 shits about branding and market cap. Freedom is where it's at, make a coin that facilitates free commerce even silk road style commerce that bypasses bullshit laws and market cap & awareness will take care of itself. Makes me wonder why people are here promoting an anonymous coin if they care about mainstream perceptions.. perhaps cat coin is the better choice for them. Agreed! Why the hell would average joe be interrested in this coin already? There is already bitcoin for your every day needs if you dont care too much about being anonymous. I like the sound of "purple unicorn"-coin though. The dogecoin of the the black market. So lsd, much wow! While I agree completely that the name is irrelevant when considering the technological and political advances, I don't think you can rule out the importance of a good name, branding, and marketing. Most startups fail because of distribution issues rather than technology issues. The more engineering-minded tend to place all the importance on technology, that this product will sell itself. Very few products actually succeed in selling themselves. If you look at Dogecoin, you can see the power of great marketing and branding. The technology is completely worthless and the coin will no doubt fail long term, but without widespread awareness of a brand name/coin, the coin will also invariably fail long term. Look at the viral success of Apple products(I know another touchy subject for bitcoin enthusiasts atm). With Apple, a business model of function following form created the largest company in the world. I'm not saying in order to succeed Darkcoin has to focus primarily on branding, but it has to be a high priority for the best chances of widespread adoption. Doge is popular because there is a shit tone of them and it is a novelty and everyone can feel like a "winner" because they have some. long term it is a different kind of joke. Branding is important if your trying to trick the masses that don't know any better, like having a relevant seeming statement like "silver to bitcoins gold" to newcomers that are here for profit motive only and don't really have a clue. "think different" yeah cause apple people are totally about individuality.. people who fall for branding are so funny. |
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TanteStefana
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February 28, 2014, 10:51:06 PM |
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Eduffield, as a professional writer I'm up for helping you out with any proof-reading of copy (and suggesting edits or improvements) for the Darkcoin website...
If you want a helping hand actually writing the content, I am glad to offer you my assistance.
Check out the wiki posted yesterday! I think it's hard for the average person to understand  |
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February 28, 2014, 11:13:19 PM |
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Let the devs focus on getting the technology right. Screw the marketing.
Of course the devs have to focus on tech development. It's their job, it's what they're good at. But "screwing the marketing" and promotion is a mistake. Do you think only products like doge, with no new remarkable features, need promotion? Think again. If you believe information will spread itself as smoothly and quickly just because a coin has a good feature, you're wrong and you're ignoring a very important tool. And marketing & strategies go customized to the product. You wouldn't sell DRK with a DOGE campaign, it's about pulling the right strings, the right way. And the good news is you don't have to fool anyone here, or play cheap propaganda tricks. You can go upfront with the tech, once it's working. |
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February 28, 2014, 11:17:35 PM |
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February 28, 2014, 11:25:05 PM |
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February 28, 2014, 11:25:47 PM
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Alpha testing starts in ~15-30 minutes! If all goes well, I'll release beta for mainnet tomorrow/sunday. Come help out!
ps, the UI supports DarkSend now, there's a checkbox  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467857.msg5415614#msg5415614
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February 28, 2014, 11:32:10 PM |
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I tend to agree with this. The name itself will be the reason darkcoin is never widely accepted by, er, "normal" people (also can't think of the right word sorry). It doesn't matter how great it is, give it a shady or evil sounding name and it's doomed.
Not that I condone criminal activity, but to be honest, that is how bitcoins gained some traction. I don't think any rational person will see the name darkcoin and say, oh, I can't use that, as it's an evil coin used for bad things. If so, they wouldn't use bitcoins or any currency either. It's not like someone made a coin called devilcoin (although give them time, they are sort of running out of names).... Bitcoin - litecoin - darkcoin ... has a nice ring to it, and perhaps darkcoin becomes the copper to litecoin's silver. Although litecoin isn't doing particularly well either lately. Actually, I see Darkcoin becoming MySpace's FaceBook! I'm not thinking small I think a fork of dark will be more successful because of how it was launched. More like litecoin to tenebrix. |
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February 28, 2014, 11:37:00 PM |
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Let the devs focus on getting the technology right. Screw the marketing.
You wouldn't sell DRK with a DOGE campaign, it's about pulling the right strings, the right way. I wouldn't sell DRK at all  DRK will go viral. It speaks for itself… or rather, it doesn't… there's your marketing |
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February 28, 2014, 11:37:45 PM |
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Great! We should update that media release I wrote and send it out Monday if the beta goes up this weekend? |
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TanteStefana
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February 28, 2014, 11:40:47 PM |
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DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying:
"DarkCoin is digital cash."
+1 But that's why I think its better to call it D-coin or something else (not related to dark) New people will think that darkcoin is related to illegal things and thats not the intention, idea of it. Maybe it will scare/put off (I don't know the right word) some people...No? I tend to agree with this. The name itself will be the reason darkcoin is never widely accepted by, er, "normal" people (also can't think of the right word sorry). It doesn't matter how great it is, give it a shady or evil sounding name and it's doomed. The name is irrelevant, Bitcoin was not adopted because its name but more so because of libertarian values and adopters/enthusiasts being aware of what is going on the economy/banking. If dark can provide anonymous "dark" transactions it could be called purple unicorn coins for all I care.. Dark is good branding for people in the know ie tor darknet stuff. If joe blow isn't aware of what dark means he will soon enough.. with every Snowden leak or bullshit passed law/corrupt lawless judge's decision is making people more aware. It is like built in marketing because we all know what governments agenda is just like how cypress bumped up bitcoin. I could give 2 shits about branding and market cap. Freedom is where it's at, make a coin that facilitates free commerce even silk road style commerce that bypasses bullshit laws and market cap & awareness will take care of itself. Makes me wonder why people are here promoting an anonymous coin if they care about mainstream perceptions.. perhaps cat coin is the better choice for them. +5000 We live in a disgusting tyrannical era of financial enslavement. Period. I just wish bitcoin had ZERO value/tradeability for fiat as it is, these scumbags will just run the printing press and corner us that way. If the U.S. Dollar / insert other real life scamfiat had any real value, distribution, or any fairness whatsoever in earnings without taxes raping all of it and more, crypto wouldn't be as big as it is right now. Stop worrying about what the sheep think. You can call the coin GunsAndCrackCoin for all I care, what's the difference? Counter arguing that is like saying the US dollar hasn't been used to pay for drugs, murder, [insert every other crime on earth] because it looks pretty and says "In God (which god? I'm not sure anymore) We Trust. In a demigod we trust? LOL |
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February 28, 2014, 11:42:19 PM |
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when someone try to force price down he chain price with walls .....but what we have here is someone got ALOT OF DARKCOIN and just want to get out of market FAST for some reason
It was some sad people trying to rush into aurora on poloniex. Hilariously, they are now the bag holders who bought in at 35 dollars. and with a premine of aurora of 50% and iceland has declared crypto currency illegal i can only assume its a pump and dump operation in progress.. LOL seriously? Got a source for that? Quote from that very article you linked: "This does not mean Bitcoin is illegal." Please, people in the DRK thread have been above this "everything else except what I'm holding is scam" attitude.. let's keep it that way! |
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February 28, 2014, 11:43:43 PM |
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February 28, 2014, 11:44:02 PM |
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Lets go with "purple unicorn coin" then. Put the purple in the black market and make it queer!
RAINBOW COIN! I LOVE IT!!! |
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March 01, 2014, 12:01:06 AM |
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ShareCoin：SV4bDxoaex4DoBxCMfAMbHyxV8hhuSXLBa
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March 01, 2014, 12:20:32 AM |
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DRK will go viral. It speaks for itself… or rather, it doesn't… there's your marketing Good one Now it only needs a little push.  |
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March 01, 2014, 12:21:00 AM |
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DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying:
"DarkCoin is digital cash."
+1 But that's why I think its better to call it D-coin or something else (not related to dark) New people will think that darkcoin is related to illegal things and thats not the intention, idea of it. Maybe it will scare/put off (I don't know the right word) some people...No? I tend to agree with this. The name itself will be the reason darkcoin is never widely accepted by, er, "normal" people (also can't think of the right word sorry). It doesn't matter how great it is, give it a shady or evil sounding name and it's doomed. . Dark is good branding for people in the know ie tor darknet stuff. If joe blow isn't aware of what dark means he will soon enough.. with every Snowden leak or bullshit passed law/corrupt lawless judge's decision is making people more aware. It is like built in marketing because we all know what governments agenda is just like how cypress bumped up bitcoin. I could give 2 shits about branding and market cap. Freedom is where it's at, make a coin that facilitates free commerce even silk road style commerce that bypasses bullshit laws and market cap & awareness will take care of itself. Makes me wonder why people are here promoting an anonymous coin if they care about mainstream perceptions.. perhaps cat coin is the better choice for them. That is exactly the point I was trying to make. As soon as the name hints that it may be used for a particular purpose, it actually makes it less useful for that purpose, especially when it comes to anonymity. Take sexcoin for example LOL may as well have 2 for 1 hooker vouchers in your wallet and hope the wife doesn't notice |
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March 01, 2014, 12:38:34 AM |
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DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying:
"DarkCoin is digital cash."
+1 But that's why I think its better to call it D-coin or something else (not related to dark) New people will think that darkcoin is related to illegal things and thats not the intention, idea of it. Maybe it will scare/put off (I don't know the right word) some people...No? I tend to agree with this. The name itself will be the reason darkcoin is never widely accepted by, er, "normal" people (also can't think of the right word sorry). It doesn't matter how great it is, give it a shady or evil sounding name and it's doomed. . Dark is good branding for people in the know ie tor darknet stuff. If joe blow isn't aware of what dark means he will soon enough.. with every Snowden leak or bullshit passed law/corrupt lawless judge's decision is making people more aware. It is like built in marketing because we all know what governments agenda is just like how cypress bumped up bitcoin. I could give 2 shits about branding and market cap. Freedom is where it's at, make a coin that facilitates free commerce even silk road style commerce that bypasses bullshit laws and market cap & awareness will take care of itself. Makes me wonder why people are here promoting an anonymous coin if they care about mainstream perceptions.. perhaps cat coin is the better choice for them. That is exactly the point I was trying to make. As soon as the name hints that it may be used for a particular purpose, it actually makes it less useful for that purpose, especially when it comes to anonymity. Take sexcoin for example LOL may as well have 2 for 1 hooker vouchers in your wallet and hope the wife doesn't notice I have no position in this coin, just found it via that cryptolife article. But to think about trying to rebrand it to something more mainstream would be such a disaster. D-coin? Suck my D-coin would be just as good. The one thing you guys have going for it is the anonymous transactions. The devs and the coin should be transaction neutral and if anything the branding should hint towards the dark side. |
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