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[tungfa]

When the release of RC5? Why its so long

Relax, take a breath
what's the rush ? ....>

[KryptoFoo]

For those that have not experienced the new RC5 client, here is a screenshot with brief explanation:

[crowning]

What if we recognise that clones will be popping up, and instead of competing with them, we offer them a mixing service through the DRK master nodes?

All they have to do is pay xyz in fees - possibly 20% of their new coin distribution, which MN operators could sell in exchange for DRK (yes there are risks with zero value shitcoins). Or create a clone monthly $fee > BTC > DRK payment requirement?

I like the idea, but payment must be DRK only!

If we support other currencies, they at least must support DRK by paying with it.

[patrolman]

For those that have not experienced the new RC5 client, here is a screenshot with brief explanation:

Looking good, much more informative. Maybe not the major wallet update we have been eagerly awaiting but it's certainly a step in the right direction.

[KryptoFoo]

For those that have not experienced the new RC5 client, here is a screenshot with brief explanation:

Looking good, much more informative. Maybe not the major wallet update we have been eagerly awaiting but it's certainly a step in the right direction.

It's much less confusing and more importantly, it just WORKS.

[Kai Proctor]

When the release of RC5? Why its so long

Strangely because the dev team likes to test thoroughly the code before a release. 

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/

[coins101]

When the release of RC5? Why its so long

Strangely because the dev team likes to test thoroughly the code before a release.  

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/

Open source now.

DRK can carry on testing and have the only working version

[rickraw]

When the release of RC5? Why its so long

Strangely because the dev team likes to test thoroughly the code before a release.  

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/

Open source now.

DRK can carry on testing and have the only working version

Lol I like that

[thelonecrouton]

When the release of RC5? Why its so long

Spoken like a sullen hooker! 

[coins101]

For those that have not experienced the new RC5 client, here is a screenshot with brief explanation:

Used your image, thanks 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=761561.msg8685301#msg8685301

[droptable]

After having 4.000 tDRK, i think i will stay on the testnet forever.

Screw you DRK, it was a nice time and everything,
but you know, time chance.
Its good for both of us.
Making new experiences.
We can .... still be friends ... and see each other, from time to time...
...its just
..its not about you. it is me.

I just fit better with tDRK.
 

[TheTruth4]

For those that have not experienced the new RC5 client, here is a screenshot with brief explanation:

Looking good, much more informative. Maybe not the major wallet update we have been eagerly awaiting but it's certainly a step in the right direction.

It's much less confusing and more importantly, it just WORKS.

Gosh I can't wait to lay my hands on the real version!

[coins101]

If you know any particular gaming operators on this forum, please let me know.

I'm now starting to contact operators about Darkcoin and providing them with information about Darkcoin, traffic analysis used by exchanges to ban customers that use gaming sites and the general legal position on gaming plus using crypto.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=761561.msg8585129#msg8585129

[r-ando]

I wanted to put this out there to get the communities take on what Darkcoin should be in the future. I think there's a fork is the road for Darkcoin. I have a few different ideas for what masternodes could do. A few months ago when I came up with the idea of paying Masternodes I was thinking they could pretty much decentralize everything on the internet. That being said, it looks like other coins are already focusing on this.

As a result I don't believe we should do what others are doing. The thing I think we've really succeeded at is building an anonymity layer that's robust enough to provide nearly total anonymity while also not bloating the blockchain. I don't think there's much competition on that front and we have the brand for that service.

So we need to choose one of these options:

1.) We provide services and try to compete with centralized and next-gen decentralized providers. I think this hurts the anonymity brand by diluting what we're doing.

2.) We focus on providing a host of anonymity services using the Darksend implementation. This would mean my next project would be to rewrite electrum to use the masternodes to anonymize funds, then an android wallet that can use Darksend, then iPhone, etc. The foundation would also be tasked with trying to get businesses to accept Darkcoin and expand the user base.

I think I want to go with #2. It means that ALL users will have an out-of-the-box nearly perfect anonymous payment solution, which could be a big deal in the near term future.

Also, going with #2 would mean we abandon providing Darktor/Iris and similar services.

Hi eduffield,

If I understand properly, you want to capitalize from being the first actor in the anonymity field and benefit from first movers advantage?

I agree it is definitely a good idea to prioritize the android and iphone wallets in my opinion and also expand the user base before going into more complicated services.

 I don't quite understand what you mean by the host of anonymous services however, are you not describing one service available on different platforms? I think if you feel he second option is best, it is the best one.

What about text messaging, email and calls?  Will these eventually be included in the Darksend protocol? My concern is how do you buy something anonymously if you can't discuss the price, negotiate, do research on what you are buying, basically communicate with the other parties anonymously as well as pay them. I'm thinking along the lines of a contract, with an offer, a counter offer, acceptance and counterpart. Basically more complex operations than click and buy would require in person communication to be secure? Maybe the Darksend could have an option for encrypting business communications before payment as well as sending encrypted texts during payment? Maybe for a monthly fee?

 How do you maintain full anonymity if the discussion surrounding the financial transaction cannot be protected? Also, what if an app starts snooping on wallet activity on people phones, so basically their information isn't on the blockchain, its everywhere else where you can't track it. You would probably need to isolate the Darkcoin app from other apps, basically have a kind of firewall built into to it that would protect access from being gained by apps you gave specific permissions to when installing. Here I go again... lol. Have a great day Evan and thanks for your update. I'll keep a look out for any updates and developments.
I'm not part of the development team, so I'll take bit of time off from this board with all these ideas. They might be confusing things and its a full time job just keeping up with the posts, cheers and namaste.

[patrolman]

How do you maintain full anonymity if the discussion surrounding the financial transaction cannot be protected? Also, what if an app starts snooping on wallet activity on people phones, so basically their information isn't on the blockchain, its everywhere else where you can't track it. You would probably need to isolate the Darkcoin app from other apps, basically have a kind of firewall built into to it that would protect access from being gained by apps you gave specific permissions to when installing. Here I go again... lol. Have a great day Evan and thanks for your update. I'll keep a look out for any updates and developments.
I'm not part of the development team, so I'll take bit of time off from this board with all these ideas. They might be confusing things and its a full time job just keeping up with the posts, cheers and namaste.

These are legitimate concerns. Let's say my kids download lots of virus-infected games, is there a way of protecting the wallet from potentially malicious external applications? Another option, at least with Android, is to encourage dual booting with one "clean" system alongside a daily driver and to install the wallet on the clean system. Not currently possible on all phones though and support would be an absolute nightmare

[thelonecrouton]

How do you maintain full anonymity if the discussion surrounding the financial transaction cannot be protected? Also, what if an app starts snooping on wallet activity on people phones, so basically their information isn't on the blockchain, its everywhere else where you can't track it. You would probably need to isolate the Darkcoin app from other apps, basically have a kind of firewall built into to it that would protect access from being gained by apps you gave specific permissions to when installing. Here I go again... lol. Have a great day Evan and thanks for your update. I'll keep a look out for any updates and developments.
I'm not part of the development team, so I'll take bit of time off from this board with all these ideas. They might be confusing things and its a full time job just keeping up with the posts, cheers and namaste.

These are legitimate concerns. Let's say my kids download lots of virus-infected games, is there a way of protecting the wallet from potentially malicious external applications? Another option, at least with Android, is to encourage dual booting with one "clean" system alongside a daily driver and to install the wallet on the clean system. Not currently possible on all phones though and support would be an absolute nightmare

It's up to users to secure their own devices.

Don't install malware, don't let your kids install malware, wipe all the pre-installed crapware, only run your wallet from a secure usb linux distro... whatever, it's your responsibilty, not that of anyone else.

[coins101]

If you were sat in a coffee shop or walking down the street, how do you stop your wif-fi connection leaking information about you; and then you and your BTC spends?

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good enough?

http://us.norton.com/norton-hotspot-privacy/

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[r-ando]

If you were sat in a coffee shop or walking down the street, how do you stop your wif-fi connection leaking information about you; and then you and your BTC spends?

edit

good enough?

http://us.norton.com/norton-hotspot-privacy/

bump

So... is it good enough?    If it is then many concerns I brought up would be resolved with only IP obfuscation... it would still involve trusting another party...? (how about the source verification)

[thelonecrouton]

If you were sat in a coffee shop or walking down the street, how do you stop your wif-fi connection leaking information about you; and then you and your BTC spends?

edit

good enough?

http://us.norton.com/norton-hotspot-privacy/

bump

Just disable wifi on the device until you need it and can connect securely. If in doubt, remove the battery.    

Your mobile phone company almost certainly logs your phone's every movement, wifi on or not. Remove the battery and sim card.

edit: @ r-ando - no, Norton products are laughable garbage.

[patrolman]

How do you maintain full anonymity if the discussion surrounding the financial transaction cannot be protected? Also, what if an app starts snooping on wallet activity on people phones, so basically their information isn't on the blockchain, its everywhere else where you can't track it. You would probably need to isolate the Darkcoin app from other apps, basically have a kind of firewall built into to it that would protect access from being gained by apps you gave specific permissions to when installing. Here I go again... lol. Have a great day Evan and thanks for your update. I'll keep a look out for any updates and developments.
I'm not part of the development team, so I'll take bit of time off from this board with all these ideas. They might be confusing things and its a full time job just keeping up with the posts, cheers and namaste.

These are legitimate concerns. Let's say my kids download lots of virus-infected games, is there a way of protecting the wallet from potentially malicious external applications? Another option, at least with Android, is to encourage dual booting with one "clean" system alongside a daily driver and to install the wallet on the clean system. Not currently possible on all phones though and support would be an absolute nightmare

It's up to users to secure their own devices.

Don't install malware, don't let your kids install malware, wipe all the pre-installed crapware, only run your wallet from a secure usb linux distro... whatever, it's your responsibilty, not that of anyone else.

So perhaps the mobile wallets should be forgotten about. After all, I bet I could count on my fingers and toes the number of people in this thread who install only open-source software on their mobile devices, and if you want to include apps with independently verified proprietary code the number wouldn't be much higher. How many apps go through that process? How can anyone be sure what is malware and what is not? By only installing apps without internet permissions?