[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[threedream]

I will concern it

[bigboom]

Is there a exact date about starting the public auction? I can't find out.

[jubalix]

how does quora dev do it all so fast???

[jkoil]

New day!New hope!NEM

New Era of Markets. NEM

[makoto1337]

Is there any information about how did the closed alpha go on weekend? If I remember correctly, if it went well, there would be an ETA for the open Alpha. Sorry if I remember wrong or have missed the information in the last few posts.

The closed dev alpha has been up for the last few days. Once we stop finding obvious bugs, we can probably put out an ETA for the open alpha.

[makoto1337]

Some PoW people even don't believe PoS is secure:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615843.0

Is POI reviewed by any crypto expert and proven to be secure?

We are reviewing POI internally for now and testing multiple attack vectors. I think at some point all of the code will get an external review, but I am not sure.

POI should be more secure than POS because it should be harder to manipulate your account's importance. Despite what the POW people say, POS is fine as well. POI > POS > POW in terms of security, in my opinion.

[TauMuon]

A couple of ideas to increase the usability of the NEM client in the future:

• Quick, easy-to-follow and informative instructional videos explaining how to use the NEM client: making a transaction, using the asset exchange, staying secure etc. Perhaps these could be embedded within the client and new users could be directed to them upon the first opening? Or possibly have a video on each section of the client explaining that part of the client; so in the 'secure messaging' tab, have a video embedded explaining how to use the messaging feature.
• An in-client (moderated) internet chat system, with multiple chats for specific purposes. This could include chats for troubleshooting, or chats for general NEM talk (akin to BTC-e's trollbox). Perhaps a private email-based messaging system could be used to deal with private technical difficulties. On the other end of these chats/emails could be knowledgeable NEM representatives/stakeholders who are willing to help out. Essentially having many different, easy-to-access places to obtain help and advice is key to keeping the people who would otherwise be turned off if they couldn't use a certain aspect of the client.

[hamiltino]

After reading the NEM auction format, it seems very inefficient and time consuming to return funds and organize who the winning and loosing bids are. It is also quite ridicules that if i would like to increase my bid i can't but it would count as 2 seperate bids instead...

My suggestions:
1. Simply use cryptothrift.com, they are very good and charge 2.5% per sold item.
2. Make a wordpress site and use the wp auctions plugin which allows you to auction off items and accpet bitcoin. WP auctions plugin lite is free and pro version is $40 which can be paid in bitcoin.

Both are very easy to setup, allows people to increase their bid and less time consuming.

[utopianfuture]

After reading the NEM auction format, it seems very inefficient and time consuming to return funds and organize who the winning and loosing bids are. It is also quite ridicules that if i would like to increase my bid i can't but it would count as 2 seperate bids instead...

My suggestions:
1. Simply use cryptothrift.com, they are very good and charge 2.5% per sold item.
2. Make a wordpress site and use the wp auctions plugin which allows you to auction off items and accpet bitcoin. WP auctions plugin lite is free and pro version is $40 which can be paid in bitcoin.

Both are very easy to setup, allows people to increase their bid and less time consuming.

Could someone offer a counter point ? while do you want to increase your bid? Do as recommended, make a max bid you can afford and forget about it.

BTW I am open to suggestions if there are indeed ways of doing thing better.

[TauMuon]

Is there a exact date about starting the public auction? I can't find out.

Not till after the release of the open alpha, which has no exact ETA just yet. Stay tuned either here, the forum, the subreddit, Twitter or Facebook to get the times (when they are announced).

In case you haven't seen it: details of the auction.

[Gxname]

I am one of the NEM stakeholders in the final list named "xiaoxiaojie"
Now the problem is that my account named"xiaoxiaojie" was banned by BTT.
I contacted the author（utopianfuture）, but no response.
Please send messages to my old account or (mailbox is best), verify the authenticity of my.
I hope you can as soon as possible, I had been waiting long.

Does it mean  this guy has puppet account?
"xiaoxiaojie"? not fair! one guy with more than one stake!
LOL

Does it mean  this guy has puppet account? no.
"Xiaoxiaojie" is my old account, participated in NEM.
Now my account is registered, did not participate in the NEM.
Why do you think that it mean this guy has puppet account  ?
I just want to put my shares transferred to the new account.
The authors did not do anything, I have a lot of email to the author, once did not reply.
This is a joke? Are you kidding me half a year?

[tw007tw007]

No need to hurry, I have no problem with waiting a bit longer.

Don't worry, maintain a good attitude, to observe the market!
Rather than rush to regret.

[bluewhackadoo]

A couple of ideas to increase the usability of the NEM client in the future:

• Quick, easy-to-follow and informative instructional videos explaining how to use the NEM client: making a transaction, using the asset exchange, staying secure etc. Perhaps these could be embedded within the client and new users could be directed to them upon the first opening? Or possibly have a video on each section of the client explaining that part of the client; so in the 'secure messaging' tab, have a video embedded explaining how to use the messaging feature.
• An in-client (moderated) internet chat system, with multiple chats for specific purposes. This could include chats for troubleshooting, or chats for general NEM talk (akin to BTC-e's trollbox). Perhaps a private email-based messaging system could be used to deal with private technical difficulties. On the other end of these chats/emails could be knowledgeable NEM representatives/stakeholders who are willing to help out. Essentially having many different, easy-to-access places to obtain help and advice is key to keeping the people who would otherwise be turned off if they couldn't use a certain aspect of the client.

brilliant idea!

+1

[TauMuon]

I have updated the F.A.Q. threads on reddit and the forum with extra info from the summary document. Take a look before asking anything here to save cluttering this thread with questions that have been posted millions of times!

[sparta_cuss]

I am one of the NEM stakeholders in the final list named "xiaoxiaojie"
Now the problem is that my account named"xiaoxiaojie" was banned by BTT.
I contacted the author（utopianfuture）, but no response.
Please send messages to my old account or (mailbox is best), verify the authenticity of my.
I hope you can as soon as possible, I had been waiting long.

Does it mean  this guy has puppet account?
"xiaoxiaojie"? not fair! one guy with more than one stake!
LOL

Does it mean  this guy has puppet account? no.
"Xiaoxiaojie" is my old account, participated in NEM.
Now my account is registered, did not participate in the NEM.
Why do you think that it mean this guy has puppet account  ?
I just want to put my shares transferred to the new account.
The authors did not do anything, I have a lot of email to the author, once did not reply.
This is a joke? Are you kidding me half a year?

It should be easy to prove that you are the same person. You just need to send a signed message from the same Btc account you used to reserve your stake. Or, if you used Nxt, just send a message from that account. Of course, you'll need to get UP's attention first so that he knows to look for your message.

[Gxname]

I am one of the NEM stakeholders in the final list named "xiaoxiaojie"
Now the problem is that my account named"xiaoxiaojie" was banned by BTT.
I contacted the author（utopianfuture）, but no response.
Please send messages to my old account or (mailbox is best), verify the authenticity of my.
I hope you can as soon as possible, I had been waiting long.

Does it mean  this guy has puppet account?
"xiaoxiaojie"? not fair! one guy with more than one stake!
LOL

Does it mean  this guy has puppet account? no.
"Xiaoxiaojie" is my old account, participated in NEM.
Now my account is registered, did not participate in the NEM.
Why do you think that it mean this guy has puppet account  ?
I just want to put my shares transferred to the new account.
The authors did not do anything, I have a lot of email to the author, once did not reply.
This is a joke? Are you kidding me half a year?

It should be easy to prove that you are the same person. You just need to send a signed message from the same Btc account you used to reserve your stake. Or, if you used Nxt, just send a message from that account. Of course, you'll need to get UP's attention first so that he knows to look for your message.

yes，I used Nxt, and just send one NXT from that account to prove that I am the same person.

At the same time, I put in the IPO message links and trade ID to dev.
Waiting for a reply, the first application until now already for a long time.
Trouble and disappointment, I hope to be able to quickly process.

[sparta_cuss]

I am one of the NEM stakeholders in the final list named "xiaoxiaojie"
Now the problem is that my account named"xiaoxiaojie" was banned by BTT.
I contacted the author（utopianfuture）, but no response.
Please send messages to my old account or (mailbox is best), verify the authenticity of my.
I hope you can as soon as possible, I had been waiting long.

Does it mean  this guy has puppet account?
"xiaoxiaojie"? not fair! one guy with more than one stake!
LOL

Does it mean  this guy has puppet account? no.
"Xiaoxiaojie" is my old account, participated in NEM.
Now my account is registered, did not participate in the NEM.
Why do you think that it mean this guy has puppet account  ?
I just want to put my shares transferred to the new account.
The authors did not do anything, I have a lot of email to the author, once did not reply.
This is a joke? Are you kidding me half a year?

It should be easy to prove that you are the same person. You just need to send a signed message from the same Btc account you used to reserve your stake. Or, if you used Nxt, just send a message from that account. Of course, you'll need to get UP's attention first so that he knows to look for your message.

yes，I used Nxt, and just send one NXT from that account to prove that I am the same person.

At the same time, I put in the IPO message links and trade ID to dev.
Waiting for a reply, the first application until now already for a long time.
Trouble and disappointment, I hope to be able to quickly process.

Ok, good luck.

[bitfoud]

how to apply nem token?

[sparta_cuss]

how to apply nem token?

Are you asking what to do with the NEM token?

When the asset (NEMstake 12465186738101000735) goes live on Nxt Asset Exchange, you will be able to sell your token for NXT. Or you can just keep it and trade it in for NEM when NEM goes live.

The NEMstake asset should be going live on Nxt Asset Exchange in a few days.

[Eadeqa]

For example in the case of NXT the simulation could have been used to find out, how the forging works and how it distributes the fees. That was not done - at least nobody had written so. (Or was that too obvious, when that has been asked few times )

Nxt works fine. The point of forging is not to be "fair" but to secure the network -- that's what mining does for bitcoin too.  The question is whether POI is secure. We won't know until it's studied and reviewed.