[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[galaxy]

Satoshi Nakamoto.

The man himself. Makes sense to me.

Satoshi disappears and BCNext appears.
BCNext disappears and UtopianFuture appears.

Right?

 

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[tlincoln]

Satoshi Nakamoto.

The man himself. Makes sense to me.

Satoshi disappears and BCNext appears.
BCNext disappears and UtopianFuture appears.

Right?

 

50% say Yes!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583503

[mr smith]

Satoshi Nakamoto.

The man himself. Makes sense to me.

Satoshi disappears and BCNext appears.
BCNext disappears and UtopianFuture appears.

Right?

 

50% say Yes!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583503

Common denominator they all like "social experiments"  

UP we the stakeholders demand in earnest that you declare yourself as or not Satoshi Nakamoto aka BCnext.

If you decline in principle then Andreas Antonopoulos might be of help  

[patmast3r]

Satoshi Nakamoto.

The man himself. Makes sense to me.

Satoshi disappears and BCNext appears.
BCNext disappears and UtopianFuture appears.

Right?

 

50% say Yes!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583503

Common denominator they all like "social experiments"  

UP we the stakeholders demand in earnest that you declare yourself as or not Satoshi Nakamoto aka BCnext.

If you decline in principle then Andreas Antonopoulos might be of help  

BCNext had people rewrite his posts in their own words so noone could id him through his way of writing. Do you really think he would tell you if he was UP ?
Not to mention that people usually aren't gonna tell you their real name even if their not "famous".

[Eadeqa]

BCNext had people rewrite his posts in their own words so noone could id him through his way of writing. Do you really think he would tell you if he was UP ?
Not to mention that people usually aren't gonna tell you their real name even if their not "famous".

Also,  UP is the organizer of the project, but not a developer. Both Satoshi and BCNext were programmers.

[patmast3r]

BCNext had people rewrite his posts in their own words so noone could id him through his way of writing. Do you really think he would tell you if he was UP ?
Not to mention that people usually aren't gonna tell you their real name even if their not "famous".

Also,  UP is the organizer of the project, but not a developer. Both Satoshi and BCNext were programmers.

Maybe he was sick of always having to code it

[jkoil]

BCNext had people rewrite his posts in their own words so noone could id him through his way of writing. Do you really think he would tell you if he was UP ?
Not to mention that people usually aren't gonna tell you their real name even if their not "famous".

Also,  UP is the organizer of the project, but not a developer. Both Satoshi and BCNext were programmers.

Maybe he was sick of always having to code it

Yes ... it would not be wise to follow the rule "never two without three" and get caught :-)

[Djinou94]

Could someone point to the right discussion thread for NEM (be it on bitcointalk or elsewhere)? I am lost with so many threads.
Plus, where could I have the current status and roadmap for NEM? Thank you.

You are in the right thread.
I can't give you dates because there are no ETAs but this is what's coming in the very near future (in no special order):

• stake auctions
• release of final stakeholder list
• refunds
• alpha
• other stuff that comes up

I can't give you dates because there are no ETAs but this is what's coming in the very not so near future (but also not very distant) (in no special order):

• logo
• branding
• open beta
• whitepaper release
• stake distribution
• official launch
• exchanges
• stake distribution
• UP reveals that he's really satoshi
• Jaguar reveals that he's really BCNext

Who is Jaguar?

[freigeist]

Who is Jaguar?

Jaguar is lead NEM core developer.
Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=183319

[galaxy]

BCNext had people rewrite his posts in their own words so noone could id him through his way of writing. Do you really think he would tell you if he was UP ?
Not to mention that people usually aren't gonna tell you their real name even if their not "famous".

Also,  UP is the organizer of the project, but not a developer. Both Satoshi and BCNext were programmers.

Maybe he was sick of always having to code it

Satoshi was a visionary. That was what he brought to the table. When he was even coding bitcoin, it was an older style and not top notch at that time.

He had a vision. That vision brought us all here right now.

It would make total sense if he wasnt doing the coding. He would want the coding to be top notch, and he could never hide that he was Satoshi if he was the one doing the coding.

Thats my take on our fantasy here.
It's possible and it could make sense.

But we may never know. UP is a very talented leader. Would you say Satoshi had this quality?

[Eadeqa]

But we may never know. UP is a very talented leader. Would you say Satoshi had this quality?

Satoshi was academic. Look at his writing style (forum posts) and white paper. Neither BCNext nor UP are academics. 

[bandar]

Some people talk about a cellphone/smartphone wallet. This is indeed the key to succes.  You have to mind that 99% of the worlds population hardly heard of bitcoin nor crypocurrencies and if they did, it was in newsflashes pointing out the volatility.  The big majority of the ones who invested some money in it, did it at the wrong time thus losing their money.  result? No trust...

So, if you want to be accepted as a trustworthy way of transferring money, they need to be sure that the currency they're using doesn't act like some crazed pumo and dump altcoin (+40% today, -70% tomorrow).  That's fun for the daytraders but it scares the hell out of people wanting to buy a burger and noticing they can only afford 1 topping with the same amount of coins a yesterday.

What do you need in order to achieve that?  Be able to make the transfers that quick that you can buy coins for $/€, transfer coins in a split second to whereever you want with the receiver acting the same way (receiving coins/nem/whatever), selling their coins immediately for the same price in $/€.  The only chance of losing anything is in the split second of transfer.  

I'm no technician and don't know if this is realistic but in order to be accepted, you need this kind of stability (and monkey-proof ways of transferring money).

People who believe the currency (in this case: nem) will be worth more tomorrow than today, they just hodl

 Possible? Hope so.  Too much focused on fiat? Welcome to the real world...

[jkoil]

But we may never know. UP is a very talented leader. Would you say Satoshi had this quality?

Satoshi was academic. Look at his writing style (forum posts) and white paper. Neither BCNext nor UP are academics.  

That was so solid deduction

If Satoshi does want to be unknown and unreachable, and he knows that his writing style has been analyzed, then why would he write as he used to be.

It is easier to take something out than add something.

[Sebastien256]

Nice development in NEM. It is obvious that utopianfuture is a very dedicated leader. Keep up the good work.

May I comment on the following:

3. How can I get my shares ?

You will need to access your BTT account to send a PM or make a post confirming the ownership of the account to claim your share. Detail instructions in an announcement will be posted here, NEM reddit, NEM facebook, ournem website and the announcement will last at least 5 days. It is your responsibility to read and follow the instructions to claim your shares. So please check back frequently. Thanks.

Please update the timeframe of the "share claiming" for 10 days, at the very least (20 days would be better). At the moment, people could go on a one week vacation and miss the announcement. That could piss off some people.

[sarahg]

You can check out Txt Coins now

Information is on there Website  you can Call  +1 (954) 320-6484 and setup an account or you can go on the website www.txtcoinsnow.com top right corner click register

With TXT Coins Now users do not need to register online also its had 4 years development so it's way ahead in features and services they are adding crypto wallets and some new features and launching in July they are very open to working with service providers from all areas

"there is no fiat or crypto currency added so the function of balance will not show due to people asking to load there accounts" its setup for people to pre-register currently"

TXT Cash Now Company corporation was started in 2011 in the state of delaware USA

take contact to this guy!

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About 40% of the world’s population will be online by the end of 2014.

Two-thirds of the 3 billion Internet users will be from the developing world with mobile broadband approaching 32%

Internet well on way to 3 billion users,  United Nations telecom agency reports
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=47729#.U3kv0SgzSK0

We need SMS mobile payments for NEM. With those kind of numbers, we can't ignore not being able to handle SMS payments.

[bossmad35]

Nice development in NEM. It is obvious that utopianfuture is a very dedicated leader. Keep up the good work.

May I comment on the following:

3. How can I get my shares ?

You will need to access your BTT account to send a PM or make a post confirming the ownership of the account to claim your share. Detail instructions in an announcement will be posted here, NEM reddit, NEM facebook, ournem website and the announcement will last at least 5 days. It is your responsibility to read and follow the instructions to claim your shares. So please check back frequently. Thanks.

Please update the timeframe of the "share claiming" for 10 days, at the very least (20 days would be better). At the moment, people could go on a one week vacation and miss the announcement. That could piss off some people.

Be careful to not to lose the stake. We expect to be enough time!

[utopianfuture]

But we may never know. UP is a very talented leader. Would you say Satoshi had this quality?

Satoshi was academic. Look at his writing style (forum posts) and white paper. Neither BCNext nor UP are academics. 

How do you know I am not academic? it is obvious I am not in CS though.

[utopianfuture]

Nice development in NEM. It is obvious that utopianfuture is a very dedicated leader. Keep up the good work.

May I comment on the following:

3. How can I get my shares ?

You will need to access your BTT account to send a PM or make a post confirming the ownership of the account to claim your share. Detail instructions in an announcement will be posted here, NEM reddit, NEM facebook, ournem website and the announcement will last at least 5 days. It is your responsibility to read and follow the instructions to claim your shares. So please check back frequently. Thanks.

Please update the timeframe of the "share claiming" for 10 days, at the very least (20 days would be better). At the moment, people could go on a one week vacation and miss the announcement. That could piss off some people.

It was old information. Claiming coins should last at least 1 months.

[utopianfuture]

@up

Any word on listing nem tokens on nxt AE? Whats the general concensus?

not discussed yet. Is there really a demand to do so ?

[sparta_cuss]

Please update the timeframe of the "share claiming" for 10 days, at the very least (20 days would be better). At the moment, people could go on a one week vacation and miss the announcement. That could piss off some people.

It was old information. Claiming coins should last at least 1 months.

Excellent! One month seems fair. What's the rush, after all, right?