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May 28, 2014, 03:10:46 AM
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I should add some information about the bounty. Professional investor handout should look like this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnuhs0aklr1l6wl/Blackcoin%20Meet%20Black%20April%2020%202014.pdf

That is for blackcoin twenty pages + something. We don't need to go that long 4 pages + 1 cover is fine but should include ALL important information in NEM summary. Community distribution should be mentioned. 1 person/ 1 share is kind of unique and a very board base of stakeholders should be mentioned too. Read the letter to waiting list. Some ideas there should be included: vision, commitment, people etc. doesn't need to go into too much technical details except mentioning new innovations. In short, read all information in NEM summary and transform it into a coherent story with an attractive design.

It is not an easy job so bounty could be up to 1btc (or 1 dev. stake if choose that way). I probably need to see a draft before agree on a person taking the bounty, or at least what kind of works have been done by the bounty hunter. Feel free to chat with me if you want more story.  


Ideally we'd have an official logo to be able to create something which looks professional. There's little than can be done from a design veiwpoint when there is not logo or brand to play around with. Aside from a handful of nicely-made infographics and charts, it's not going to be great to look at.

Is this fair to say? Agree/disagree?

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May 28, 2014, 03:12:42 AM
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I would like to set a bounty for making an investor's handout based on the information in NEM summary

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A9p6QZcUoDvezVMUsp2kYaF8g_jTNPFPL5e3Tli-jaI/edit#gid=0

The handout should be professionally done 3-4 pages long. Is 0.5 BTC good enough ? Who want to do it ? it should be done within 1 week. I am available for a chat if more information is needed.

Where should I post this to get more attention ?

Has anybody claimed the bounty yet?

I should add some information about the bounty. Professional investor handout should look like this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnuhs0aklr1l6wl/Blackcoin%20Meet%20Black%20April%2020%202014.pdf

That is for blackcoin twenty pages + something. We don't need to go that long 4 pages + 1 cover is fine but should include ALL important information in NEM summary. Community distribution should be mentioned. 1 person/ 1 share is kind of unique and a very board base of stakeholders should be mentioned too. Read the letter to waiting list. Some ideas there should be included: vision, commitment, people etc. doesn't need to go into too much technical details except mentioning new innovations. In short, read all information in NEM summary and transform it into a coherent story with an attractive design.

It is not an easy job so bounty could be up to 1btc (or 1 dev. stake if choose that way). I probably need to see a draft before agree on a person taking the bounty, or at least what kind of works have been done by the bounty hunter. Feel free to chat with me if you want more story.  


A friend is working on a handout and I am guiding him. I'll probably edit his text some and he's using some photos I took.

He's not a stakeholder (didn't have money to buy in), but he is a pretty good programmer (I've worked with him before in person) and it would be good to have him involved in NEM ecosystem stuff once he gets some time (he's busy trying to graduate). I think we can probably put something together that will be good.

I'll try to get him to post here once he gets something done. He already sent me a couple of drafts.

Great Makoto. We will need something more professional looking than the example he sent me though. I attached the Blackcoin handout here as an example.

We need all good programmers. But it might be awkward to put programmers to do works of designers and vice versa.

I have also spoken to a great professional designer to help us create the handout. As I have told Utopian, the only "problem" was that he insisted on upfront payment. I have his real identity though and trust he would make a good design if we would agree to it.

If the people working right now on the handout do not come up with the required [professional] quality, I'll shortly discuss the problem again with the designer.

Maybe if we pay up to 1 btc I can discuss with him the possibility of even creating some kind of interesting logo(at least for the handout).
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May 28, 2014, 03:27:39 AM
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I should add some information about the bounty. Professional investor handout should look like this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnuhs0aklr1l6wl/Blackcoin%20Meet%20Black%20April%2020%202014.pdf

That is for blackcoin twenty pages + something. We don't need to go that long 4 pages + 1 cover is fine but should include ALL important information in NEM summary. Community distribution should be mentioned. 1 person/ 1 share is kind of unique and a very board base of stakeholders should be mentioned too. Read the letter to waiting list. Some ideas there should be included: vision, commitment, people etc. doesn't need to go into too much technical details except mentioning new innovations. In short, read all information in NEM summary and transform it into a coherent story with an attractive design.

It is not an easy job so bounty could be up to 1btc (or 1 dev. stake if choose that way). I probably need to see a draft before agree on a person taking the bounty, or at least what kind of works have been done by the bounty hunter. Feel free to chat with me if you want more story.  


Ideally we'd have an official logo to be able to create something which looks professional. There's little than can be done from a design veiwpoint when there is not logo or brand to play around with. Aside from a handful of nicely-made infographics and charts, it's not going to be great to look at.

Is this fair to say? Agree/disagree?

We do have some decent logos from loitran, Gvan, etc. not world class but usable I think. Take a look at 2 packages of logo in the NEM summary.


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May 28, 2014, 03:29:47 AM
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I would like to set a bounty for making an investor's handout based on the information in NEM summary

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A9p6QZcUoDvezVMUsp2kYaF8g_jTNPFPL5e3Tli-jaI/edit#gid=0

The handout should be professionally done 3-4 pages long. Is 0.5 BTC good enough ? Who want to do it ? it should be done within 1 week. I am available for a chat if more information is needed.

Where should I post this to get more attention ?

Has anybody claimed the bounty yet?

I should add some information about the bounty. Professional investor handout should look like this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnuhs0aklr1l6wl/Blackcoin%20Meet%20Black%20April%2020%202014.pdf

That is for blackcoin twenty pages + something. We don't need to go that long 4 pages + 1 cover is fine but should include ALL important information in NEM summary. Community distribution should be mentioned. 1 person/ 1 share is kind of unique and a very board base of stakeholders should be mentioned too. Read the letter to waiting list. Some ideas there should be included: vision, commitment, people etc. doesn't need to go into too much technical details. In short, read all information in NEM summary and transform it into a coherent story with an attractive design.

It is not an easy job so bounty could be up to 1btc (or 1 dev. stake if choose that way). I probably need to see a draft before agree on a person taking the bounty, or at least what kind of works have been done by the bounty hunter. Feel free to chat with me if you want more story. 

Please see my PM ...

If you are working on the investor handout, then maybe you can also work with my friend. Send me a PM if interested and I can direct you to him.

                
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May 28, 2014, 03:32:35 AM
 #8145

I would like to set a bounty for making an investor's handout based on the information in NEM summary

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A9p6QZcUoDvezVMUsp2kYaF8g_jTNPFPL5e3Tli-jaI/edit#gid=0

The handout should be professionally done 3-4 pages long. Is 0.5 BTC good enough ? Who want to do it ? it should be done within 1 week. I am available for a chat if more information is needed.

Where should I post this to get more attention ?

Has anybody claimed the bounty yet?

I should add some information about the bounty. Professional investor handout should look like this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnuhs0aklr1l6wl/Blackcoin%20Meet%20Black%20April%2020%202014.pdf

That is for blackcoin twenty pages + something. We don't need to go that long 4 pages + 1 cover is fine but should include ALL important information in NEM summary. Community distribution should be mentioned. 1 person/ 1 share is kind of unique and a very board base of stakeholders should be mentioned too. Read the letter to waiting list. Some ideas there should be included: vision, commitment, people etc. doesn't need to go into too much technical details except mentioning new innovations. In short, read all information in NEM summary and transform it into a coherent story with an attractive design.

It is not an easy job so bounty could be up to 1btc (or 1 dev. stake if choose that way). I probably need to see a draft before agree on a person taking the bounty, or at least what kind of works have been done by the bounty hunter. Feel free to chat with me if you want more story.  


A friend is working on a handout and I am guiding him. I'll probably edit his text some and he's using some photos I took.

He's not a stakeholder (didn't have money to buy in), but he is a pretty good programmer (I've worked with him before in person) and it would be good to have him involved in NEM ecosystem stuff once he gets some time (he's busy trying to graduate). I think we can probably put something together that will be good.

I'll try to get him to post here once he gets something done. He already sent me a couple of drafts.

Great Makoto. We will need something more professional looking than the example he sent me though. I attached the Blackcoin handout here as an example.

We need all good programmers (there will be a plenty of future opportunities). But it might be awkward to put programmers to do works of designers and vice versa.

I think it is hard to make something too professional without a logo, but I think he is capable of making something at least as good as the blackcoin handout (sans the logo and cool time series charts as we don't have this data yet).

                
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May 28, 2014, 03:39:44 AM
 #8146

I would like to set a bounty for making an investor's handout based on the information in NEM summary

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A9p6QZcUoDvezVMUsp2kYaF8g_jTNPFPL5e3Tli-jaI/edit#gid=0

The handout should be professionally done 3-4 pages long. Is 0.5 BTC good enough ? Who want to do it ? it should be done within 1 week. I am available for a chat if more information is needed.

Where should I post this to get more attention ?

Has anybody claimed the bounty yet?

I should add some information about the bounty. Professional investor handout should look like this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnuhs0aklr1l6wl/Blackcoin%20Meet%20Black%20April%2020%202014.pdf

That is for blackcoin twenty pages + something. We don't need to go that long 4 pages + 1 cover is fine but should include ALL important information in NEM summary. Community distribution should be mentioned. 1 person/ 1 share is kind of unique and a very board base of stakeholders should be mentioned too. Read the letter to waiting list. Some ideas there should be included: vision, commitment, people etc. doesn't need to go into too much technical details except mentioning new innovations. In short, read all information in NEM summary and transform it into a coherent story with an attractive design.

It is not an easy job so bounty could be up to 1btc (or 1 dev. stake if choose that way). I probably need to see a draft before agree on a person taking the bounty, or at least what kind of works have been done by the bounty hunter. Feel free to chat with me if you want more story.  


A friend is working on a handout and I am guiding him. I'll probably edit his text some and he's using some photos I took.

He's not a stakeholder (didn't have money to buy in), but he is a pretty good programmer (I've worked with him before in person) and it would be good to have him involved in NEM ecosystem stuff once he gets some time (he's busy trying to graduate). I think we can probably put something together that will be good.

I'll try to get him to post here once he gets something done. He already sent me a couple of drafts.

Great Makoto. We will need something more professional looking than the example he sent me though. I attached the Blackcoin handout here as an example.

We need all good programmers. But it might be awkward to put programmers to do works of designers and vice versa.

I have also spoken to a great professional designer to help us create the handout. As I have told Utopian, the only "problem" was that he insisted on upfront payment. I have his real identity though and trust he would make a good design if we would agree to it.

If the people working right now on the handout do not come up with the required [professional] quality, I'll shortly discuss the problem again with the designer.

Maybe if we pay up to 1 btc I can discuss with him the possibility of even creating some kind of interesting logo(at least for the handout).

One possibility is to use charts and text that my friend is working on and then send that to a pro designer to incorporate a color scheme and logo.

NXT has pretty good logos/branding and we are not quite there yet from the current batch of logos. I think something like the basic symbol in https://www.flickr.com/photos/115246188@N06/12841652204/ or https://www.flickr.com/photos/115246188@N06/12326726813/ could be made interesting if done right. I especially like the concept of the first one, but the spacing is not quite right. The scaling and whitespace should be more consistent and hierarchical (see: http://meandering-through-mathematics.blogspot.jp/2012/02/applications-of-golden-mean-to.html).

                
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May 28, 2014, 03:53:36 AM
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NEM community:

I would like to unofficially nominate user kodtycoon as a NEM ambassador to the Nxt community.

He is an investor in both communities and knows the ecosystems. He is driven, and his enthusiasm would serve the NEM community very well to our cousins on the other side of the crypto fence. Kodtycoon (aka ForrestGump at the Nxt forum) is respected member of the Nxt community and would serve as a fine liaison. Over the months, he will develop a natural cross-community outreach as more NEM features are released.

As part of this nomination, I'd like to pledge 10% (100,000) of my stake and would hope to have a minimum of 9 other users match this pledge, so Kodtycoon could receive an additional full stake to serve as an ambassador. Hopefully, it would not be that much extra work for UP and his team to issue .9 stakes to the 10 (or more) people who would pledge.

What do you all think of this proposal? This will be completely user funded, with no community funds to be used or expectations to be set. He will act as an autonomous free agent (a role he's already fulfilling quite well).

Please see my proposal to kodtycoon over at the NEM Asset Exchange thread at the nxt forums.

Thanks!

We do have some dev. shares in promotion category to all helpers. So finger crossed. For private donation, I certainly support it and in fact there is a very convenient way for all donors to do so. I guess most NEM stakeholders who support the cause of NEM-Nxt liaison also request a NEMstake token, so if you support Kodtycoon you could send 1/10 of the token directly to him.  

Thanks, Utopian. My post was not only to support the efforts of members like kodtycoon, but also to generally get the ball rolling -- we as normal users can take up initiatives on our own. We're decentralized, we don't need to wait for directions from "NEM Headquarters", we can begin things ourselves. Smiley

Let's say you don't know kodtycoon that well, or you have another idea... start something. Take 5-10% of your stake, or even something as low as 1000 or 100 NEM, and gather it together in a pool with a likeminded NEM user.

ALPHA LAUNCH IS SOONER THAN WE THINK.

BETA LAUNCH IS SOONER THAN WE THINK.

We need to prepare, now. As separate groups, or individuals. We need to have things in place. We can't assume the client will launch and we're an automatic #5 spot or #10 spot.

I don't mean for this to sound like I'm "preaching down" to the thread; I'm talking out loud to myself here. For those that plan to do more than collect a stake and sit on it, or collect a stake and dump it, let's start forming ideas.

My proposal for kodtycoon as NEM/Nxt Liaison -- NEM will be worth more for me holding only a .9 stake with him as an ambassador than if I hold a full 100%. I hope a few others will, too. Even if no one pledges, kodtycoon will continue to do what he's doing; I just think it's important for end users to recognize the contribution of others.
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id say everyone will agree, even 4m market cap prior to any software release what so ever is HUGE! once trading on AE has been established.. perhaps we should write up a letter to russiatoday and/or the max kieser show requesting to have an aired interview..

they do plenty of slots on cryptos and max seems to love to be the one to say buy this buy that..  today he said to buy BTC, LTC, DOGE, DRK and of course the most wonderful maxcoin Roll Eyes... 4 of which are in serious downtrend.. *cof* fail *cof*

but thats not the point... it give exposure to these coins.. and plenty of it.. RT has a huge huge following, most of which will know about crypto by now.. wouldnt little old maxy just love to be able to say "ya i was first to say to buy NEM, even before it was launched"

but we need a good reason for them to talk about it..  if NEM launches and ether stays at highest bid price or rises.. we are talking atleast 12 place on market cap with out any software if highest bid is not dropped.. we have a community 3000+ strong... a huge amount of devs, marketeers, enthusiasts ect ect.. i think we should go big.. bigger then articles in crypto magz... we need to get someone from NEM on TV... on the max kieser report or better an RT report.. soon... if the highest bid of 60,000 per stake stays and price really does settle around there(hint to all sellers.. dont sell).. we have our in... all we would need is someone that could do public talking/tv interview.. and a way to get them there..

it wouldnt be to hype NEM up.. just inform everyone about whats going on.. why NEM has such a high market cap and be modest.. very modest.. dont say this that the other will 100% be ready at launch.. just that "it can support this that the other but its too early to tell when the release would be, but we have many devs so i hope not too long", "there are a few innovations such as POI so on and so on", the less its hyped and the lower peoples expectations of features available at time of launch are the better! we just need to find the middle ground of spreading the word about this project but not causing massive hype that could ruin NEM with broken promises ect....


could this sort of thing be done or would it be premature?  

im sure if max heard of a coin that hasnt even had any software released yet with a cap of 9+million(assuming does stay at this level).. he WILL want to be the first to announce it to the masses! he bosts his ego-system.. we boost our eco-system.. Smiley

just havin a brain dump lol

The idea of somehow being mentioned by Max Keiser would be great kodtycoon. Smiley

As you may remember, I have set a specific point in my marketing proposal which would address targeting specific individuals and even offering them a free stake.

Max Keiser would fit into this category.

Here are some other persons which I have in mind and which would bring an enormous value to our community, though I don't know how they would react to the idea yet. I have some more, but will list only 4 examples now. Ideally we should target to have in our movement 2 from every important field out there.(2 great scientists - maybe even from different fields of science, 2 great entrepreneurs, 2 great artists/designers, etc).

Kevin Rose - Robert Kevin Rose (born February 21, 1977) is a former American Internet entrepreneur who co-founded Revision3, Digg, Pownce, and Milk. He also served as production assistant and co-host at TechTV's The Screen Savers. As of 2012, he is a venture partner at Google Ventures.

Tim Ferriss - Timothy Ferriss (born July 20, 1977) is an American author, entrepreneur, angel investor, and public speaker. In 2007, he published The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich, which was a No. 1 New York Times bestseller, a No. 1 Wall Street Journal bestseller, and a USA Today bestseller. The 4-Hour Workweek has made the Best Seller List for 7 consecutive years from 2007 to 2013. In 2010, he followed up with The 4-Hour Body, which was another No. 1 New York Times bestseller.[10] Ferriss's third book, The 4-Hour Chef, was released in November 2012 and was a No. 1 Wall Street Journal bestseller. Ferriss is also an angel investor or an advisor to Facebook, Twitter, StumbleUpon, Evernote, and Uber, among other companies.

CEO of Overstook.com - Patrick M. Byrne (born 1962, Fort Wayne, Indiana,) is an American entrepreneur, e-commerce pioneer, CEO and chairman of Overstock.com. In 1999, Byrne took control of the company, then called D2: Discounts Direct, and changed its name to Overstock. He had previously served shorter terms leading two smaller companies, including one owned by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway. - From what I can hear he is very interested to test and learn more about crypto-currency.

Russell David "Russ" Roberts (born September 19, 1954) is a research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution well known for communicating economics to non-economists as host of the EconTalk podcast.

However, I don't think it's the right time to target them now, we should have at least some launched product before we approach them. Don't you think?

In the meantime, I am making a list of great people we would like to join our movement and think how we could approach them.

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May 28, 2014, 04:09:49 AM
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NEM community:

I would like to unofficially nominate user kodtycoon as a NEM ambassador to the Nxt community.

He is an investor in both communities and knows the ecosystems. He is driven, and his enthusiasm would serve the NEM community very well to our cousins on the other side of the crypto fence. Kodtycoon (aka ForrestGump at the Nxt forum) is respected member of the Nxt community and would serve as a fine liaison. Over the months, he will develop a natural cross-community outreach as more NEM features are released.

As part of this nomination, I'd like to pledge 10% (100,000) of my stake and would hope to have a minimum of 9 other users match this pledge, so Kodtycoon could receive an additional full stake to serve as an ambassador. Hopefully, it would not be that much extra work for UP and his team to issue .9 stakes to the 10 (or more) people who would pledge.

What do you all think of this proposal? This will be completely user funded, with no community funds to be used or expectations to be set. He will act as an autonomous free agent (a role he's already fulfilling quite well).

Please see my proposal to kodtycoon over at the NEM Asset Exchange thread at the nxt forums.

Thanks!

We do have some dev. shares in promotion category to all helpers. So finger crossed. For private donation, I certainly support it and in fact there is a very convenient way for all donors to do so. I guess most NEM stakeholders who support the cause of NEM-Nxt liaison also request a NEMstake token, so if you support Kodtycoon you could send 1/10 of the token directly to him.  

Thanks, Utopian. My post was not only to support the efforts of members like kodtycoon, but also to generally get the ball rolling -- we as normal users can take up initiatives on our own. We're decentralized, we don't need to wait for directions from "NEM Headquarters", we can begin things ourselves. Smiley

Let's say you don't know kodtycoon that well, or you have another idea... start something. Take 5-10% of your stake, or even something as low as 1000 or 100 NEM, and gather it together in a pool with a likeminded NEM user.

ALPHA LAUNCH IS SOONER THAN WE THINK.

BETA LAUNCH IS SOONER THAN WE THINK.

We need to prepare, now. As separate groups, or individuals. We need to have things in place. We can't assume the client will launch and we're an automatic #5 spot or #10 spot.

I don't mean for this to sound like I'm "preaching down" to the thread; I'm talking out loud to myself here. For those that plan to do more than collect a stake and sit on it, or collect a stake and dump it, let's start forming ideas.

My proposal for kodtycoon as NEM/Nxt Liaison -- NEM will be worth more for me holding only a .9 stake with him as an ambassador than if I hold a full 100%. I hope a few others will, too. Even if no one pledges, kodtycoon will continue to do what he's doing; I just think it's important for end users to recognize the contribution of others.


Good point.

By the way, glad to see you active here.  Smiley
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Every time I come and check NEM I can see a lot of good progress.

Glad we can start and trade NEM on Nxt AE.
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Trading NEM on Nxt AE was a very good idea! So much attention...

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We need real COINS now, rather than a plan, plan, plan again, I have hate
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We need real COINS now, rather than a plan, plan, plan again, I have hate


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Just for fun, some statistics concerning the NEM subreddit:

 - The NEM subreddit has 23% of the subscribers the NXT subreddit has.
 - The NEM subreddit has 0.12% of the subscribers the Bitcoin subreddit has.



If we multiply that with the market caps of those two currencies we pretty much exactly get an estimated market cap of $9 million for NEM (for both values).


NXT barely uses their sub.  All of their activity is at nxtforum.org.  NEM will be 1-2M.  I would compare it to NAS maybe multiplied a few times because NEM has a stronger following now.

That's an insult right there. You watch your mouth Smiley

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We need real COINS now, rather than a plan, plan, plan again, I have hate

I agree


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May 28, 2014, 08:57:37 AM
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We need real COINS now, rather than a plan, plan, plan again, I have hate

I agree

Get all your coins now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612105.msg6770626#msg6770626  Wink
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May 28, 2014, 09:28:22 AM
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We should have faith in NEM, keep on going.  Smiley
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Yep Grin take it now and stop squeezing about nothing forever!

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May 28, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
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ALPHA LAUNCH IS SOONER THAN WE THINK.

BETA LAUNCH IS SOONER THAN WE THINK.


Dear Friend! This is lovely sounds, I also hope that it will be soon... but Where did You take this info(SOONER) ?

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ALPHA LAUNCH IS SOONER THAN WE THINK.

BETA LAUNCH IS SOONER THAN WE THINK.


Dear Friend! This is lovely sounds, I also hope that it will be soon... but Where did You take this info(SOONER) ?

Tempus fugit.
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