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May 28, 2014, 05:07:07 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Add: please dont market the produce until we have open Alpha.


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May 28, 2014, 05:11:57 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.
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May 28, 2014, 05:15:56 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.

Why is it too complicated and too technical ? we don't even have an alpha yet.


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May 28, 2014, 05:18:31 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.

Pwahahahaha. NXT is a failure to you? Being #4 in marketcap is failure?

NEM is being made with ease-of-use and functionality in mind.

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May 28, 2014, 05:22:40 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.

Why is it too complicated and too technical ? we don't even have an alpha yet.

EXACTLY WHICH IS WHY IT IS A RESOUNDING FAIL!!!!

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May 28, 2014, 05:28:01 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.

Why is it too complicated and too technical ? we don't even have an alpha yet.

EXACTLY WHICH IS WHY IT IS A RESOUNDING FAIL!!!!

Thank you for your opinion. Now please go back to where you come from.


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May 28, 2014, 06:02:34 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.

Why is it too complicated and too technical ? we don't even have an alpha yet.

Just as I said....too many tech savvy people around here. Most of the times I really have no idea what you're talking about. Ok ask someone who is not in crypto to try and understand a few pages in this thread. I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't understand.
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May 28, 2014, 06:19:20 PM
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Let's say we start promoting NEM now and for whatever reason it doesn't work?  This is totally new so there is a chance that it could happen. The calls of scam will be loud and the dev's will get a bad reputation.

The other concern i have is software delays, they will happen that is just the nature of the beast. People are saying now that it is taking to long for NEM. Start promoting to soon or to hard and again people will cry scam when deadlines are missed.

I say we just take it as it comes, let it go through the alpha phase and then once the open beta comes we can take a look at where's it at and go from there.
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May 28, 2014, 06:30:49 PM
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wow, so many question in single post. I'll answer some of them.

how many lines of code have been written so far?

Code:
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Language                     files          blank        comment           code
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Java                           207           2744           5448           9222 // NIS code
Java                            45            752           1020           283  // NCC code
Java                           179           5036           4729          15544 // unit tests
Java                             9            287            281           1111 // integration tests

can i get a somewhat detailed idea of whats been happening behind the scenes for testing?

10 compiling
20 testing
30 fixing
40 goto 10

number of servers being used?

actually not many, we're in phase 0, so there are 5-7 people running nodes (some run 2)

number of tests being ran per dat/week?
we run unittest all the time not per week. I've pasted some stats, (look at my posts) but haven't got the time to prepare them this week.
regarding alpha testing, we're doing tests every single day now.

how long the tests are running with out crashing/major bugs?
you mean alpha? there is no crashing per se, but we do have some (mostly silly) bugs.

any idea what month alpha will be in?
I personally hope next (Jul), but we have slow delay with UI, so I can't tell.

will we know more about the technical side of nem after alpha?
That depends, as I've mentioned earlier, we don't plan to publish Whitepaper until BETA is out. (mainly cause we don't want our ideas stolen).

(It's taking time to invent, test, polish things, it takes tenth of that time, to copy that)

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May 28, 2014, 06:33:59 PM
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Thx for the update > keep calm and code on  Smiley

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May 28, 2014, 06:47:40 PM
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Why dont you update your signatures guys??!!

Use this at your profile info:


[b ][url =https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM?fref=ts]--> Nem on Facebook: [/url][/b]
[b ][url = Write here the hyperlink ] write here the words that will have a hyperlink to the previous address, just move out the space at start form "b" and "url" [/url][/b]

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May 28, 2014, 06:54:28 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.

Why is it too complicated and too technical ? we don't even have an alpha yet.

Just as I said....too many tech savvy people around here. Most of the times I really have no idea what you're talking about. Ok ask someone who is not in crypto to try and understand a few pages in this thread. I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't understand.

does everyone understand how the internet works? tcp/ip? telecommunications? torrents? actually do you know how these things work? i didnt think so...

good counter-example,
it should stop evil trolls' avalanche Smiley
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May 28, 2014, 07:06:56 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.

Why is it too complicated and too technical ? we don't even have an alpha yet.

Just as I said....too many tech savvy people around here. Most of the times I really have no idea what you're talking about. Ok ask someone who is not in crypto to try and understand a few pages in this thread. I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't understand.

does everyone understand how the internet works? tcp/ip? telecommunications? torrents? actually do you know how these things work? i didnt think so...

good counter-example,
it should stop evil trolls' avalanche Smiley


You just don't get it do you.
You are overlaoding people with too much difficulty.
Compare it with the other threads.
I'm not trolling here but as someone with zero knowledge programming skills I'm trying to understand this coin. It won't work if you keep on lecturing people about all the ins and outs.
Just my 2 cents.
Nxt was for example inaccesable for normal people because you had to dig very deep to be able to install the wallet, but it's not limited to the wallet only.
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May 28, 2014, 07:08:43 PM
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i dont mean to burst everyones bubble, but i really dont like misunderstandings.
The ones here that are doing the marketing, please give me an honest answer to this:
 
What are you marketing ?
What are you marketing it as?

Nem is nothing but an awesome idea so far, at a pre-alpha stage.
How are you marketing something that has no features so far, no code published, no client and no launch?

i'm honestly curious to hear what people are saying to others in regard to a product that has not launched yet,
this is not a trolling attempt, so please lets all have a serious discussion.


Even then it does not hurt to have a simplified explanation somewhere.
I am curious also.

Before a product is a community. Before a community is an idea. There is a plenty of thing to talk if someone is willing to Cheesy

Too much talking going on here...blablabla....blablabla
Shall I tell you why I think this coin is gonna fail just like Nxt?
It is too complicated and too technical for normal people to understand what you guys are talking about.

Why is it too complicated and too technical ? we don't even have an alpha yet.

Just as I said....too many tech savvy people around here. Most of the times I really have no idea what you're talking about. Ok ask someone who is not in crypto to try and understand a few pages in this thread. I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't understand.

does everyone understand how the internet works? tcp/ip? telecommunications? torrents? actually do you know how these things work? i didnt think so...
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May 28, 2014, 07:11:40 PM
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NEM Marketing Proposal

Here are some thoughts I have regarding NEM marketing side.

Marketing and human nature

The more we study human nature we seem to discover that man is not as rational as he thought. In fact, he is invariably guided by a combination of conscious, subconscious, emotions and biases which often leads to decisions that are at best irrational and at worst very damaging for individuals and society in general. In a utopian world, we would only have to build a great piece of technology and people would rush to adopt it immediately, simply because it would be in their best interest. In our world, however, it seems it has become increasingly hard for people to make sense of the world. Not only that, but even when people understand what’s wrong and what they need to do, they rarely have the power to act in accordance to what they think.

Here’s the point where good marketing comes in. There was a time when people believed they could solve big problems just by pointing the way toward a solution. As we can see now, the decision dynamics of humanity is a nearly impossibly complex mechanism that is rarely advancing in the right direction. So if we want to change something important for the better, we simply cannot leave things to randomness and inertia. The question then is, can we change the course of things, albeit in a small yet instrumental way? And if so, how?

Making it simple and sexy

I think the bitcoin story, though still at its very beginning, can offer some very useful and powerful lessons as to how this may be done, and indeed, confirm this is really possible. Indeed, consider that bitcoin has achieved the current status lacking both simplicity and sexyness. When those will be added(and I know a lot of people are working on that now) I think bitcoin will probably go to a whole other level.

In fact there may be an even better example from which one could learn some important things. Consider the story of Elon Musk, who is arguably one of the most important entrepreneurs/engineer/ inventor alive and apparently a billionaire genius.[1] As he understood where we are today and what are some of the most important problems/threats we could face in the future, he came up with some ideas and plans as to how this problems could be solved and threats could be transformed into powerful innovation for the benefit of humanity. One of the problems he figured is that auto industry was advancing in the wrong direction because of unsustainable production and consumption of energy(Pollution and climate damage with potentially destructive consequences for the long term and high consumption of relatively scarce resources). He also figured that arguably for the immediate future the solution would lay in electric cars. The biggest problem with electric cars was their perception. Who wants them?! They’re slow, ugly, unreliable, low range, boring and unsexy. So even if you would make an electric car, you could not beat people into buying it, nobody would. Or at least, nobody until they learned about Tesla Motors.[2] Elon musk figured that the most effective way to solve the problem would be to radically redefine the perception about electric cars by creating the first compelling electric car ever built that would capture the imagination of people. It should be better in almost every aspect than its gasoline competitors[3] but most important of all, the car should be sexy, irresistibly sexy. This is how the burden of psychological hard work has changed from the customer to the inventor.  An irresistibly sexy product has been created and all the customer needs to do is follow his basic instincts, passively catalyzing the solution for a very important problem in the process.

An antifragile solution

It seems the solutions offered until now are very fragile precisely because they are inherently dependent on a highly unstable variable, the human nature. But think for a second, what if we could engineer a meta-solution, one that could solve or isolate a much bigger problem which would in turn render us resilient or even better yet, antifragile to human nature?

How would that look in reality? Well, instead of asking of people to use their will power, self-discipline and invest a great deal of intellectual and psychological effort to fight a long war with the current economic and banking system, we should try to put in a great deal of thought at the beginning and design an irresistible, almost addictive product that would drive the way to decentralization at the greatest speed precisely when people would lack any kind of will power and self-discipline and would rather act instinctively and impulsively following their blind desires.

The tipping point


Lets say we could engineer such a product, well in that case, our only target would be to reach a tipping point. It would be reached when enough mass and speed would unleash an exponential growth period. That is the point when epidemics become pandemics, when growth explodes in such a way that it virtually becomes unstoppable. Beyond that point there won't be any need for us.

A tale of mass adoption

If there would be a worthy goal for NEM, it would certainly be mass adoption. In fact if mass adoption of NEM would happen, at least part of all the problems regarding current unsustainable economic systems would be solved in the process. It would seem the best way to start working on NEM would be with this final goal in mind. Picture a utopian future where NEM mass adoption has already happened. Now look closely at that future, what do you see? All you have to do now is reason backwards from there or reverse-engineer the process to understand what would have had to happen in order for NEM to reach that point.

Although there are a lot of things that are very blurry about that version of the future, at least some things are crystal clear:
- We have radically redefined the perception about crypto-currency by shifting from this complex geeky thing to making it the simplest, safest and fastest way to use money and transfer value.
- We have made the complex technological part almost invisible and came up with some simple and useful gadgets/devices which would allow us to do everything we need.
- We have gradually removed all impediments(physical or psychological) toward mass adoption – including thinking about it.
- Nobody cares how it’s even called anymore because it just works and everybody uses it.
- We have stopped showing average people technical specs and features and created a simple story to capture their imagination and outline the great benefits they have when using our system, because we figured that’s the only thing they care about.
- We have created an abundant ecosystem and seamlessly integrated NEM to naturally be used for everything we do in the world.
- We made money simple and sexy, all while solving some of the most critical economic problems in the process.

I understand that for mass adoption to happen, multiple paradigm shifts and pandemic like adoption rates are necessary at some point, however I think the idea is still worth a thought experiment.

Maybe there is a way we can somehow orchestrate these things to reach that outcome, maybe NEM is one of the next black swans.

Here are some steps we could start with now in order to take that version of the future closer to reality:

1. Outline a basic plan/roudmap toward mass adoption(or whatever our target is) and establish some basic guidelines in the form of checkpoints toward which the community could aim.

2. Focus on establishing our brand:

Action:

- answer these questions: who are we?(currency, store of value, payment system, a movement to enable all of that and a lot more?) what are 3 terms that best describe the benefits we bring to the end user(E.g. simplicity, financial freedom, security?), what is our target?

3. Create a concentrated, sustained and targeted marketing campaign to share our message in the most effective manner:

Action:

- Define core principles and values for our NEM movement.
- Spread our brand(key words, logo, smart and attractive campaign) everywhere.
-  Create a "secret" feature launch calendar and strategically coordinate launch dates and announcements of important features.
- Create the investors handout and update it along the way with our history, most important benefits we bring  and long term plan(all covered in good marketing).
- Create one or more smart and appealing NEM videos. We can definitely start with something like this in mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo but why not try to make it more like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5X5cV-4LRo.
- Create a cool weekly blog and newsletter for all NEM stakeholders containing updates, market analysis, pre-announcements of features etc.
- Set a target to strategically market ourselves in the most important newspapers, publications, well known blogs and conferences four our field.
- Coordinate social media accounts strategically and effectively in accordance to our branding.
- Strategically target and offer 5 - 10 free stakes to convert celebrities/entrepreneurs/ influential people to NEM.(Economists, smart technology guys, entrepreneurs, etc)
- Try to create a viral marketing campaign - offering a great incentive to all stakeholders/businesses to bring new people in.
- Create a NEM evangelist manual outlining how businesses should be pitched and have a F.A.Q. added to the manual.
- Contact several payment processors right after the alpha launch and establish a relationship with them. (Bitpay, Coinbase, Coinkite, etc) in order to be able to offer merchants and businesses the ability to accept NEM as soon as possible and even allow them to pay salary in NEM.
- Establish the demographics of our ideal user and try to develop a very appealing marketing strategy for him.
- Create a campaign in which every NEMster is attempting to bring 3(or more) of his smartest friends into NEM.
- Create some NEM games.
- Create a corporate design theme.(I like what NXT is doing)
- Establish what we can and want to do for businesses and try to develop a very appealing marketing strategy to help businesses accept NEM, list on our asset exchange, etc(show them step by step how to do it and how they would benefit from doing that).
- Establish a target of reaching at least 30000 users until the end of 2014 and plan how we can do that.
- Establish a target to get at least 30 companies to list on our asset exchange until the end of 2014 and plan how we can achieve that.
- Establish a target to find at least 10 companies that will pay salaries in NEM until the end of 2014.
- Establish a target to fund at least 20 big NEM project to enrich the NEM ecosystem until the end of 2014.
- I have some more ideas which will be kept secret till the right moment comes.

I also believe it is extremely important try to measure the effect of strategies we undertake in order to know if we want to pivot or persevere.

This plan is meant to be some food for thought and a springboard for the community to start participating. When looking at the suggestions above, do it with this question in mind: how could we improve things even more, how can we make things even more effective?

When you think about the great potential NEM has please understand this, we're only at the very beginning and trust me, you've seen nothing yet.



References:

[1]Elon Musk is working on two things at the moment: Making life multiplanetary and accelerating the advent of sustainable and energy efficient means of transportation. He is CEO of two companies at the same time(SPACEX and Tesla Motors), works 80-100 hours weekly and is arguably building the most advanced rockets and cars in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

[2] Here is a car built from the ground up to take advantage of the technology available in the 21st century. http://www.teslamotors.com/models/features#/environment

[3]Tesla Model S was rated 99 out of 100 point on consumer report: http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/09/autos/tesla-model-s-consumer-reports/

Update: I have added a note on the antifragile solution and tipping point.

great post Dude

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May 28, 2014, 07:13:14 PM
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so what is being marketed?
"hey, look, we have a.. uhmm.. well.. aahhh, an idea" is the only thing we come up with?

someone ssaid nem is complicated, waht is complicated?
there is nothing in our hands who is complicated by nothing?

come on people, all of you that do some nem marketing
what are you saying to others?

how do you sell this, is there anyone that has anything honest?

i'm not expecting this from UP, he has proven (to me at least) more than enough, he had an idea, and he is seeing this through.
I'm also not trying to disegage, i hold a share of this, and i will like this taking off.

Also i am not directing these questions to the devs, they have so much on their hands, writing code from scratch and all, they should stick to that.

I am expecting some answers from all those users that are supposedly "marketing" this.
Since people here like to compare nem to nxt, ethereum or whatever comes to mind, hell, i would think that they have something to talk about and explain it to others and market the hell out of it.

I am asking all those super excited "nemsters" or "nemenems" to explain to us
what exactly are they marketing, and as what.

Since the dev team has not given us anything yet, what are you saying to others?
Are you sure you are not doing more bad than good?

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Nxt was for example inaccesable ..

Good thing that you used past tense as it's not true anymore.

http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet/

There is also online wallet coming http://nextblocks.info/

Things take time.

It's not magic.

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kodtycoon, i dont think they are percentages, they look like numbered lines, like in a coding environment  Grin
although that could be the 110 percent.

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thanks allot for that.. this will come in very handy

one question though!
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can i get a somewhat detailed idea of whats been happening behind the scenes for testing?
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10 compiling
20 testing
30 fixing
40 goto 10

are these percentages of what amount of work/time that is being put into each?

just line numbers of workflow.. as from from 40 you go back to 10

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You just don't get it do you.
You are overlaoding people with too much difficulty.
Compare it with the other threads.
I'm not trolling here but as someone with zero knowledge programming skills I'm trying to understand this coin. It won't work if you keep on lecturing people about all the ins and outs.
Just my 2 cents.
Nxt was for example inaccesable for normal people because you had to dig very deep to be able to install the wallet, but it's not limited to the wallet only.


How could you possibly know anything about user friendliness.
It's not because this thread or NEM in general is complicated that it means anything with regards to the ease of use.

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