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November 18, 2015, 11:53:21 AM
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Now that is truly a crypto wallet. The design looks flawless, and also the idea of a dapp store is amazing. Can't wait for the official release of the Mist wallet as this would certainly increase Ether's price and demand.  Grin

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November 18, 2015, 04:28:14 PM
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Vitalik just posted in /r/ethereum -- Ethereum just implemented anon-tx's!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3tappe/early_alpha_monerolike_linkable_ring_signatures/
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November 18, 2015, 04:32:20 PM
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Vitalik just posted in /r/ethereum -- Ethereum just implemented anon-tx's!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3tappe/early_alpha_monerolike_linkable_ring_signatures/

Absolutely fabulous. Now we can have the greatness of anon coins such as Dash and Monero into a single decentralized platform. This is really good news. If Ethereum could keep up with this, we will be able to see it go to the moon! Time to buy some more.  Cheesy

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November 18, 2015, 06:12:31 PM
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Understanding Ethereum – Casper and Proof-of-Stake
The Ethereum project is evolving nicely, as things are finally starting to come to fruition after two years of intensive development. Now that the Ethereum Frontier has been established, the time has come to look ahead and focus on more support for the lightweight client. Casper will play an important role in this process, and now is an opportune time to explain what this project is all about.
http://digitalmoneytimes.com/understanding-ethereum-casper-proof-stake/
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November 18, 2015, 10:26:30 PM
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Vitalik just posted in /r/ethereum -- Ethereum just implemented anon-tx's!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3tappe/early_alpha_monerolike_linkable_ring_signatures/

Absolutely fabulous. Now we can have the greatness of anon coins such as Dash and Monero into a single decentralized platform. This is really good news. If Ethereum could keep up with this, we will be able to see it go to the moon! Time to buy some more.  Cheesy

TIL there exist ETH Maximalist Monopolist Supremacists.   Tongue

Single platforms are not "absolutely fabulous."  They are single points of failure and should be avoided in favor of resilient heterogeneous ecosystems.

This feature is more like Dash than Monero, because the (ad hoc) anonymization is not done to all coins at the protocol level.


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November 18, 2015, 11:09:24 PM
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Very nice updates guys. keep going!
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November 18, 2015, 11:52:15 PM
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Vitalik just posted in /r/ethereum -- Ethereum just implemented anon-tx's!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3tappe/early_alpha_monerolike_linkable_ring_signatures/

Absolutely fabulous. Now we can have the greatness of anon coins such as Dash and Monero into a single decentralized platform. This is really good news. If Ethereum could keep up with this, we will be able to see it go to the moon! Time to buy some more.  Cheesy

TIL there exist ETH Maximalist Monopolist Supremacists.   Tongue

Single platforms are not "absolutely fabulous."  They are single points of failure and should be avoided in favor of resilient heterogeneous ecosystems.

This feature is more like Dash than Monero, because the (ad hoc) anonymization is not done to all coins at the protocol level.

TIL there exist XMR bagholders in ETH.
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November 19, 2015, 01:32:08 AM
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Is ETH more anonymous than XMR , DASH, SDC ?
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November 19, 2015, 02:29:23 AM
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Someone's been accumulating near 1m ETH this past 6 weeks... wonder what he'll do when he decides he has enough?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/3tcsjv/someone_stacking_ether_like_were_going_to_war/
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November 19, 2015, 02:45:56 AM
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Vitalik just posted in /r/ethereum -- Ethereum just implemented anon-tx's!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3tappe/early_alpha_monerolike_linkable_ring_signatures/

Absolutely fabulous. Now we can have the greatness of anon coins such as Dash and Monero into a single decentralized platform. This is really good news. If Ethereum could keep up with this, we will be able to see it go to the moon! Time to buy some more.  Cheesy

TIL there exist ETH Maximalist Monopolist Supremacists.   Tongue

Single platforms are not "absolutely fabulous."  They are single points of failure and should be avoided in favor of resilient heterogeneous ecosystems.

This feature is more like Dash than Monero, because the (ad hoc) anonymization is not done to all coins at the protocol level.

TIL there exist XMR bagholders in ETH.

Good luck with your fabulous one-size-fits-all single point of failure platform.

I hope you don't go off the rails like the Bitcoin Monopolist Maximalist Supremacists who ended up indistinguishable from Buttcoiners.


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Last edit: November 19, 2015, 06:51:31 AM by sepehr
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I have a question,

Is there any exchange that exchanges Etherum tokens?
Please pay attention I don't mean ETH, I mean tokens created under Etherum protocol:

https://www.ethereum.org/token

I still have no exact reply about this!
Is there any regular exchange to do that?
Let's say I know about Etherex, I mean regular exchanges like polonix and ...

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November 19, 2015, 07:18:44 AM
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Do they exist yet or are they in theory? Tongue
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November 19, 2015, 07:21:48 AM
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I think ETH will overtake BTC in a few years.
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November 19, 2015, 10:54:47 AM
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New hashrate record

http://etherscan.io/charts/hashrate

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November 19, 2015, 11:10:16 AM
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where do all the gpu's come from ?

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November 19, 2015, 11:22:16 AM
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Yes, only GPU Wink

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Let's paint a picture:

On Nov 17th, Ethereum's William Mougayar said 20-plus banks are testing on Ethereum (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ethereums-william-mougayar-20-plus-banks-testing-blockchains-outside-consortium-model-1529080)

Just now (Nov 19th), Mike Hearn of R3 (25 bank blockchain consortium) said on /r/bitcoin that R3 is looking at using Ethereum and NOT Bitcoin! Specifically, he said:

  • "It'd be a conflict of interest if there was any chance of banks adopting Bitcoin for the use cases they're looking at, things like moving fiat currencies around, managing post trade lifecycles, etc. But there is no such chance. The use cases they are looking at and requirements they have cannot be met with the Bitcoin protocol, it just doesn't have the things they need. They are actually spending a lot more time looking at Ethereum than Bitcoin, as it's more obvious how to apply it to their use cases.  But even if Bitcoin had all the features banks needed for what they want to do, their volumes are such that they wouldn't fit on a crippled 1mb-only block chain. Bitcoin can barely handle its existing user base without running out of capacity. Dropping existing inter-bank transactions onto it would simply not work."

When someone asked Mike Hearn to elaborate specifically on his statement that "They are actually spending a lot more time looking at Ethereum than Bitcoin," his response was:

  • "This stuff isn't really a secret: https://twitter.com/annairrera/status/639065607338598400/photo/1

    As an example, try sketching out how to model a bond lifecycle with Bitcoin. I tried it in 2012 for the videod talk I gave in London. It requires absurd acrobatics for even a very simplified sort of bond and when you get into the real thing, forget it.  They are interested in Ethereum due to its more powerful scripting language (and, I suspect, its better reputation, as Ethereum has not yet been sullied by people using it for trading illegal things)."

     (Link to reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3tftas/mike_hearn_now_working_for_r3cv_blockchain/)

Conclusions:  
   1.  R3 / big banks are overlooking Bitcoin and instead opting for Ethereum.  
   2.  Ethereum + R3 partnership all but confirmed[?]
   3.  Buy more ETH
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November 19, 2015, 05:49:54 PM
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Is ETH more anonymous than XMR , DASH, SDC ?

Not right now.  Maybe someday.  But not Soon®.

ETH's "Monero-like" mixing is only like Monero in that it uses ring signatures.

But the mixing isn't done at the protocol level, and it's ad hoc rather than automatic, so the set of other tx available with which to mix your tx is much smaller.

What ETH is doing is providing the tools to build DASH like mixers on top of ETH's 'zero features' platform.

It's an inferior approach and should be called DASH-like, as it only bears a passing functional resemblance to Monero.

And it's unusable alpha-grade software, unlike Monero which has been up and running for more than a year.

A more fair (ie, vapor-to-vapor) comparison would be ETH's new thing versus XMR's new hotness (https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/raw/master/RingCT0.4_copy.pdf).

EDIT: As a layered approach to security is best, let's consider how BTC's CT, ETH's MLRS, and XMR's RCTM may work together, rather than pretend any one solution is completely optimal.


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Be carefull, iCEBREAKER is a troll and scammer.
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And it's unusable alpha-grade software, unlike Monero which has been up and running for more than a year.


Unjustified bullshit from the Monero troll army...

Looks like they're starting to feel threatened.  As they should.

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