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June 19, 2016, 04:48:31 AM |
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Cmon guys negotiate with the attacker for 90% return. That will be a win for both...
90% return!?!? Are you jocking ? Nothing should be given to this fuck face. He made a damage of hunderds of milions. Eth yesterday 20$+ and today 13$ and falling, that is close to 500 milions lost in a day, not counting the DAO. All togehther probably a billion $. And if he returns everything the damage has been done. Who knows when and if it will be back to normal. The guy/team that did this has to be identified and tracked down like an animal. And then punished.... Vitalik and company should make a hard fork. ETH and theDAO are great projects that can change history, but they have to be more carefull, after all this is not a game anymore, billions of $ are not to be played with. vitalik is solving this now but isnt slockit the company that coded the dao? or i am wrong ? |
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June 19, 2016, 06:09:15 AM |
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Cmon guys negotiate with the attacker for 90% return. That will be a win for both...
90% return!?!? Are you jocking ? Nothing should be given to this fuck face. He made a damage of hunderds of milions. Eth yesterday 20$+ and today 13$ and falling, that is close to 500 milions lost in a day, not counting the DAO. All togehther probably a billion $. And if he returns everything the damage has been done. Who knows when and if it will be back to normal. The guy/team that did this has to be identified and tracked down like an animal. And then punished.... Vitalik and company should make a hard fork. ETH and theDAO are great projects that can change history, but they have to be more carefull, after all this is not a game anymore, billions of $ are not to be played with. vitalik is solving this now but isnt slockit the company that coded the dao? or i am wrong ? yes slockit coded it, but since they will not get a red cent for it, they will not fix it. |
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TheStuhlman
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June 19, 2016, 06:12:35 AM |
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The longer you keep running this charade the worse it gets, hardforks are weekly events in crypto lol just ask the exchange owners.
fork this asshole thief out of existence and move on, I can not believe they are debating this.
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Mrpumperitis
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June 19, 2016, 06:14:59 AM |
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The longer you keep running this charade the worse it gets, hardforks are weekly events in crypto lol just ask the exchange owners.
fork this asshole thief out of existence and move on, I can not believe they are debating this.
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digi123
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June 19, 2016, 06:50:01 AM |
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The longer you keep running this charade the worse it gets, hardforks are weekly events in crypto lol just ask the exchange owners.
fork this asshole thief out of existence and move on, I can not believe they are debating this.
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roselee
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June 19, 2016, 07:00:22 AM |
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ok they fork it out but
what do we do with the next assh...? and be sure there will be a next.
there are lots of assh..... out there give them a chance to steel and they will
realy i ask you what do we do with the next ?
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Mrpumperitis
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June 19, 2016, 07:04:31 AM |
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ok they fork it out but
what do we do with the next assh...? and be sure there will be a next.
there are lots of assh..... out there give them a chance to steel and they will
realy i ask you what do we do with the next ?
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TheStuhlman
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June 19, 2016, 07:12:45 AM |
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ok they fork it out but
what do we do with the next assh...? and be sure there will be a next.
there are lots of assh..... out there give them a chance to steel and they will
realy i ask you what do we do with the next ?
You do the same thing you did with this one and fork him out, Until all the assholes know they have nothing to gain from doing theft on the blockchain. The miners have the right to fork and protect their interest and the interest of their main provider. The miners enforcing a fix for a heist of such magnitude will do exactly what they are paid to do. |
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Mrpumperitis
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June 19, 2016, 07:15:21 AM |
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ok they fork it out but
what do we do with the next assh...? and be sure there will be a next.
there are lots of assh..... out there give them a chance to steel and they will
realy i ask you what do we do with the next ?
You do the same thing you did with this one and fork him out, Until all the assholes know they have nothing to gain from doing theft on the blockchain. The miners have the right to fork and protect their interest and the interest of their main provider. The miners enforcing a fix for a heist of such magnitude will do exactly what they are paid to do. this guy is soo coool  |
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bitboy11
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June 19, 2016, 07:41:08 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
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lordoliver
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June 19, 2016, 08:17:31 AM
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
Thats more or less true with a soft fork, but a hard fork, is like going back in time an change the law. Example: You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. The casino owner is bankruped and the stock is dropping by 50%. He and his stock owners decide to go back in time and change the casino rules, so that the one, that wins the 50 Million at this day doesn't have to be payed out. Fair? But even the soft fork can be somehow discussable: The winner won the 50 Million, that can only be payed out a month later. But the Casino owner closes the casino, and sets all escrow funds on hold. |
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June 19, 2016, 08:44:16 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
Thats more or less true with a soft fork, but a hard fork, is like going back in time an change the law. Example: You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. The casino owner is bankruped and the stock is dropping by 50%. He and his stock owners decide to go back in time and change the casino rules, so that the one, that wins the 50 Million at this day doesn't have to be payed out. Fair? But even the soft fork can be somehow discussable: The winner won the 50 Million, that can only be payed out a month later. But the Casino owner closes the casino, and sets all escrow funds on hold. In a casino, if you exploit to win, you're thrown out and blacklisted at every casino in town. |
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lordoliver
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June 19, 2016, 08:47:15 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
Thats more or less true with a soft fork, but a hard fork, is like going back in time an change the law. Example: You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. The casino owner is bankruped and the stock is dropping by 50%. He and his stock owners decide to go back in time and change the casino rules, so that the one, that wins the 50 Million at this day doesn't have to be payed out. Fair? But even the soft fork can be somehow discussable: The winner won the 50 Million, that can only be payed out a month later. But the Casino owner closes the casino, and sets all escrow funds on hold. In a casino, if you exploit to win, you're thrown out and blacklisted at every casino in town. yea if you scam. but this was a legal move. It was implicitly written in their rules. Something like "you roll the dice as you want". But now you come with a new throwing technique, that is legal... |
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ocminer
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June 19, 2016, 08:47:41 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. Not the true story, true story: A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino... What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino... |
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lordoliver
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June 19, 2016, 08:49:56 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. Not the true story, true story: A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino... What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino... You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker... |
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June 19, 2016, 08:52:02 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. Not the true story, true story: A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino... What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino... well respected opinion OC rocks |
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ocminer
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June 19, 2016, 09:02:42 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. Not the true story, true story: A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino... What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino... You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker... That still doesn't change anything on the situation |
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lordoliver
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June 19, 2016, 09:10:21 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. Not the true story, true story: A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino... What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino... You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker... That still doesn't change anything on the situation The point is, that we are not allowed to go back in time, just because we can. You always have side effects you don't foresee. For example if you go back and kill hitler you save millions of people. But maybe the russians may have taken lead of the world and bombed usa with an atomic bomb and killed even more... |
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June 19, 2016, 09:13:15 AM |
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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!
Now roll it back.
Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.
You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. Not the true story, true story: A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino... What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino... You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker... That still doesn't change anything on the situation Not sure adding a transaction blacklist incase it happens again was the smartest move https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/pull/2715/commits/4fca3a7c4cb193b505cf9ba57b42c66adbd37868Now they can do this whenever a smart contract does not do what the contract dev expected, seem dangerous to me |
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June 19, 2016, 09:13:36 AM |
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The person who complains about the fork is the same one who loves sausages but can't hold his lunch after he sees how they're made.
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