[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[cesmak]

Yes, he deserve a good jail..... LOL

[lordoliver]

Of course I would. But that doesn't mean, that I should. Look at my given movie.

And we are not even talking about lives anyway, so the only think is loosing money. I am also invested in both ETH and DAO, but still I know, that its wrong, to make a hard fork. Soft forks, can be maybe considered to put pressure on the attacker to give most of the money back.

But for finding that exploit, he has deserved some money anyway. Companies like Apple, Facebook or Google pay a lot for finding exploits...

If he didn't do it someone else would have have done it later and it would have been even worse scenario...

Yes they pay if you talk of the exploit you found directly to the company, not using it, to stole money, and then if the exploit is confirmed they pay a reward..... this is not the way to manage exploits in the right manner....

There are some, that don't pay enough and the hacker sells it as 0-days,...
Brain is expensive...

In this case is a Cracker (not hacker) and this is not always a good behaviour.....

noone said that. But manners don't count here. Its the fact, that he deserves something...

Deserve something WHAT ? Afther he make a robbery !?!?!?!?! WTF.... !!!!

not additionally. but some of the money for finding the bug. Anyway.
You guys just don't want to see both sides of the medal...
I am fine with any decisions, but I think we run into bigger problems if we hard fork, than if we try to find the consensus with the attacker instead.

After a hard fork ETH will probably have lower value, because then a lot of decentralization priests will be counter ETH.

And if the attacker manages to persuade miners to take his transaction with the 1million eth, the money is still gone, but all of it.
Dealing with the attacker will at least bring some back...

But do what you want.

[haendehochueberfall]

Another successful attack!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ot3vi/warning_another_successful_attack_recursive_split/

[abercrombie]

Another successful attack!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ot3vi/warning_another_successful_attack_recursive_split/

$7,913,177.070017318

Let's just round it out to $8 million more lost.

[Bamsed]

Mircea Popescu could be the attacker

http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/#comment-95603

[killerjoegreece]

Another successful attack!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ot3vi/warning_another_successful_attack_recursive_split/

$7,913,177.070017318

Let's just round it out to $8 million more lost.

how much is lost in total?

[haendehochueberfall]

Second independant successfull attack within the last hour

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ot3vi/warning_another_successful_attack_recursive_split/

this is coming in by the minute

[revelacaogr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHcLKrkwPLQ

Published on 18 Jun 2016

A live show recorded in the aftermath of the DAO's draining of funds by an unknown actor. In this show, Andreas M. Antonopoulos moderates a discussion with guests Pamela Morgan (attorney), Brian Klein (attorney) and Taylor Gerring (Ethereum Project co-founder), with live twitter Q&A and participation from the DAO slack channel.

its a very good debate......
this debade shows very well that exist a lot of confuse in the law ,its very complicated(( every state have different laws,the white paper is not so white e.t.c )) and will take months (( if ))to resolve this dispute.....

[dumana]

Why cannot the DAO developers move the rest of the tokens to an account and freeze that? That will prevent further attack.

[HPt]

Why cannot the DAO developers move the rest of the tokens to an account and freeze that? That will prevent further attack.

I happen to have two proposals running. Their 7 days periods will be over on Monday and Tuesday. If those proposals can be used for a white hat attack in order to save funds I'd be happy to provide them (for a small fee).

[dumana]

Why cannot the DAO developers move the rest of the tokens to an account and freeze that? That will prevent further attack.

I happen to have two proposals running. Their 7 days periods will be over on Monday and Tuesday. If those proposals can be used for a white hat attack in order to save funds I'd be happy to provide them (for a small fee).

But those big holder should have many accounts and they can use those to move (attack) the Ethereum to protect it.

[seedtrue]

Second independant successfull attack within the last hour

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ot3vi/warning_another_successful_attack_recursive_split/

this is coming in by the minute

Do you mean the second overall attack has just happened, or that there was 2 attacks which both happened in the last hour?

[ocminer]

It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.

Nothing new...

[killerjoegreece]

It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.

Nothing new...

this seems to be getting worse by the minute then;....

[ocminer]

It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.

Nothing new...

this seems to be getting worse by the minute then;....

Why ? It's the same shit as before, just someone else copied the attack (or maybe its the same guy again)... Even you could drain the DAO if you google for a few minutes

[dumana]

It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.

Nothing new...

this seems to be getting worse by the minute then;....

Why ? It's the same shit as before, just someone else copied the attack (or maybe its the same guy again)... Even you could drain the DAO if you google for a few minutes

So why do not you do it to protect the DAO community? I am quite confused, why didnot the Eth developers do that?

[pönde]

I ask this off topic question here, because Ethereum is supported by Jaxx-wallet. I do not know where else I could ask about it.


So. Few questions of Linux 64-bit Jaxx-wallet. Every time I create new wallet from the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file, the wallet creates the same mnemonic seed. It does this also when I delete the old wallet before I create the new one. It creates the same seed even when I download the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file again and create a new wallet from it.

So the seed is I gues stored somewhere, and the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz checks it and creates the same seed again.

How that can be avoided?

[killerjoegreece]

I ask this off topic question here, because Ethereum is supported by Jaxx-wallet. I do not know where else I could ask about it.


So. Few questions of Linux 64-bit Jaxx-wallet. Every time I create new wallet from the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file, the wallet creates the same mnemonic seed. It does this also when I delete the old wallet before I create the new one. It creates the same seed even when I download the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file again and create a new wallet from it.

So the seed is I gues stored somewhere, and the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz checks it and creates the same seed again.

How that can be avoided?

just dont tell me that there is another bug with priv keys

[ocminer]

It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.

Nothing new...

this seems to be getting worse by the minute then;....

Why ? It's the same shit as before, just someone else copied the attack (or maybe its the same guy again)... Even you could drain the DAO if you google for a few minutes

So why do not you do it to protect the DAO community? I am quite confused, why didnot the Eth developers do that?

Hmm thats actually a brilliant idea, why not drain it to protect the rest

As I think they'll fix it by soft/hardforking it will probably be pointless doing it, but hey.. It's sunday.. spare time...

[revelacaogr]

A Call for a Temporary Moratorium on The DAO


http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/27/dao-call-for-moratorium/


After this report,why they didn't shut down all the project immediately and put all the funds in cold?