[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[operabit]

Ethereum what next? now entering bitcoin halving

[Mrpumperitis]

https://medium.com/ursium-blog/why-the-dao-robber-could-very-well-return-the-eth-on-july-14th-4ecb950c2592#.wb114ym0f

hmmmm

[jc12345]

https://medium.com/ursium-blog/why-the-dao-robber-could-very-well-return-the-eth-on-july-14th-4ecb950c2592#.wb114ym0f

hmmmm

You can read a bit of desperation between the lines but that is understandable because the author is not independent. Also, his line of thought has many assumptions, one being rationality which we all know is not a given attribute in the world we live in. It is not wrong though to have hope and one never know - perhaps the attacker will return the funds if all of the authors assumptions are true. It would be interesting to see how everything plays out. One point in the article that is true is that the damage has been done - how much remains to be seen. IMO DAO is RIP and eth has its own future in its own hands and must choose wisely.

[Zaducis]

https://medium.com/ursium-blog/why-the-dao-robber-could-very-well-return-the-eth-on-july-14th-4ecb950c2592#.wb114ym0f

hmmmm

There is no need for the hacker to return the funds. We will just take it away from him. I do not believe his words to return the funds.

[cohnhead]

https://medium.com/ursium-blog/why-the-dao-robber-could-very-well-return-the-eth-on-july-14th-4ecb950c2592#.wb114ym0f

hmmmm

You can read a bit of desperation between the lines but that is understandable because the author is not independent. Also, his line of thought has many assumptions, one being rationality which we all know is not a given attribute in the world we live in. It is not wrong though to have hope and one never know - perhaps the attacker will return the funds if all of the authors assumptions are true. It would be interesting to see how everything plays out. One point in the article that is true is that the damage has been done - how much remains to be seen. IMO DAO is RIP and eth has its own future in its own hands and must choose wisely.

DAO is DOA after HF. For sure there will be another iteration...DAO 2.0. Question is when it will happen. 1 month ...2months ...a year...but it will happen.

[dancing altcoin shiva]

@Tual

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/55262214.jpg

[dancing altcoin shiva]

http://www.kidstrangelove.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/patient-bear.jpg

nothing much happening here anymore, eh? When were the talking heads of mEth seen last time? You sure they're not sitting with Big Vern and Karp-Tarp having party somewhere in rural china?
They're still working on the spork, right?

[hellar]

Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

[dancing altcoin shiva]

Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Mrpumperus just fell asleep on the trading desk. Volume will be up when he's back at work.

[Mrpumperitis]

Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Mrpumperus just fell asleep on the trading desk. Volume will be up when he's back at work.

lol, i did almost fall asleep

I have been putting my coins into cold storage.
I wont be trading much this week, as i expect alot of craziness incoming. The fork and after reading yesterdays post from Stephan, it made me think alot.
Also if the fork happens, (which im all for) i would expect at least 10% of ETH being dumped from DAO and we could flash crash down ( how much i think, i cant say ,lol )
I have placed orders lower and will wait to see if they get filled before deciding my next move.
Once this all blows over ETH will be back over $20 in no time.
BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.

[Universat]

Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Mrpumperus just fell asleep on the trading desk. Volume will be up when he's back at work.

It is better to wait after the hard fork to see the effects of hard fork. If there is good sentiment, then we can buy.

[AlgoSwan]

Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Mrpumperus just fell asleep on the trading desk. Volume will be up when he's back at work.

lol, i did almost fall asleep

I have been putting my coins into cold storage.
I wont be trading much this week, as i expect alot of craziness incoming. The fork and after reading yesterdays post from Stephan, it made me think alot.
Also if the fork happens, (which im all for) i would expect at least 10% of ETH being dumped from DAO and we could flash crash down ( how much i think, i cant say ,lol )
I have placed orders lower and will wait to see if they get filled before deciding my next move.
Once this all blows over ETH will be back over $20 in no time.
BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.

Which Tual message you're talking about?

[becoin]

BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.

We have heard so many times from you how ETH is different from BTC. Now you say ETH is just like BTC. Why this change?

[RastoMan]

BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.

We have heard so many times from you how ETH is different from BTC. Now you say ETH is just like BTC. Why this change?

He did not say the Ethereum is the same as bitcoin. He just say the Etherum will survive the crisis like bitcoin did in the past.

[bbc.reporter]

Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Yes, I am looking for the latest news on the hacking incident also. There seems to be none. Would it be possible for the hacker to be talking and discussing terms with Vitalik?

[iCEBREAKER]

 

Avoiding a trainwreck, I sold my ~10 free ETH trading profits and donated the proceeds to Monero's dev fund.

I wanted to believe, but this is the coup de grace:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4s87vq/aquentin_describes_15_million_in_ether_holders_as/d57fdgf

If they do go ahead with the bailout, they are going to get the worst of both worlds: the uncaring brutality of a blockchain with the petty arbitrariness of a system controlled by people instead of math

I agree that the marketing they are using now looks wrong. Someone tried to adjust it on their open source web page repository but they won't allow that marketing to be changed, they rejected the pull requests updating it

If people value bailouts, they will certainly not value bailouts made arbitrarily, with the appearance of collusion and support of the Ethereum developers, who were also invested in the DAO and went against the espoused principles you mentioned to make an exception in this case.

Many people are used to bankers and governments having a tight relationship that is used to enrich themselves, so maybe they want to replicate that experience in a crypto-currency. Personally I think that corruption itself will lead to eventual failure.

Sorry Nick, but ETH and (by voluntary association) DAO are now the too-much/too-soon Webvan of smart contracts.   

[LiQio]

I wanted to believe [...]

You are so cute kiddo.

[your favorite kitten meme here]

[becoin]

BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.

We have heard so many times from you how ETH is different from BTC. Now you say ETH is just like BTC. Why this change?

He did not say the Ethereum is the same as bitcoin. He just say the Etherum will survive the crisis like bitcoin did in the past.

It is a stupid statement. How will ethereum survive just like bitcoin did if it has weaknesses that bitcoin doesn't have?

[Mulzatas]

Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Yes, I am looking for the latest news on the hacking incident also. There seems to be none. Would it be possible for the hacker to be talking and discussing terms with Vitalik?

I think the hacker will not talk too much. If he exposes himself, the law enforcement will find him and he will be in jail.

[apOsww]

Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Yes, I am looking for the latest news on the hacking incident also. There seems to be none. Would it be possible for the hacker to be talking and discussing terms with Vitalik?

I think the hacker will not talk too much. If he exposes himself, the law enforcement will find him and he will be in jail.

why? what is the law that he/she broke?
I don't think it's so sue him of something...