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July 22, 2016, 06:14:53 AM
Last edit: July 22, 2016, 06:30:49 AM by roselee
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good article but the disclosure was very interesting

 http://elaineou.com/2016/07/18/stick-a-fork-in-ethereum/#forkyou

Disclosure: I have DAO tokens. I also have childDAO tokens.

The Ethereum fork wipes out all the childDAOs. I split most of my DAO tokens after the crowdsale. Those were insulated from the DAO attack, but they become collateral damage in the hard fork. It’s an edge case. There are a lot of edge cases.

There will be about $6 or $7 million in leftover ether, after refunds are claimed. A group of trustees will decide how to redistribute this to the edge cases. In the age of trustless computing, trustees manage wealth redistribution.

so they rolled the dao back to bailout big investors and left some smal ones  with a loss. this means if i understnad it right some did put there tokens in a save haven so to say not affected by the attack and now with bailout they lose there investment ? or denpend on humans to may or may not pay them back ? would they have gotten there investment back if the hf would not have happend ?

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July 22, 2016, 06:29:59 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

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July 22, 2016, 07:09:18 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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July 22, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool

I learned when I was a small child.

If you pay attention to things that are going on around you, there is a better chance you will not make yourself look like an ass when you make a stupid assumption. Or, as the saying goes. To assume makes an ass out of u and me.
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July 22, 2016, 07:26:34 AM
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Bitcoin - Blockchain 1.0 (2009)
Ethereum - Blockchain 2.0 (2015)
Partisia - Blockchain 3.0  (2021)
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July 22, 2016, 07:27:36 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?

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July 22, 2016, 07:53:43 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina

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July 22, 2016, 08:01:10 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina

Nobody is whining kid. If you don't like relevant forum discussions then don't participate in them.
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July 22, 2016, 08:06:05 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO?
Sounds like Fed recapitalizing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Ethereum Central Bank...
Ethereum central bankers...
LOL.
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July 22, 2016, 08:22:24 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina

Nobody is whining kid. If you don't like relevant forum discussions then don't participate in them.

Then u need to change your rethorics ..  this sure looks like pages of whining to most ppl.

Why whine AFTER the HF? You had sooo much time to cry and whine before the decision.

I guess you are here because thje whine-thread was basicly ignored by the masses, lol.

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July 22, 2016, 08:34:50 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO?
Sounds like Fed recapitalizing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Ethereum Central Bank...
Ethereum central bankers...
LOL.


I do not think the write understand the mechanism of getting the stolen funds from the hacker. There is no extra Ethereum created.

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July 22, 2016, 08:41:00 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina

Nobody is whining kid. If you don't like relevant forum discussions then don't participate in them.

Then u need to change your rethorics ..  this sure looks like pages of whining to most ppl.

Why whine AFTER the HF? You had sooo much time to cry and whine before the decision.

I guess you are here because thje whine-thread was basicly ignored by the masses, lol.

The only person I see here whining is you. Every post from you has been barely comprehendible complaints about our posts.

Take your own advice, stop whining.
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July 22, 2016, 08:41:48 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina
are you serious?  such a sexistic post ? is that all you can say? wow thought it cant get lower but you proof it does.

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July 22, 2016, 08:45:46 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina
are you serious?  such a sexistic post ? is that all you can say? wow thought it cant get lower but you proof it does.

Its a well known expression.
You beeing so emo and sensitive i should have sensed that "sand under your foreskin" would be better. So sorry....  Roll Eyes

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July 22, 2016, 08:51:15 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina
are you serious?  such a sexistic post ? is that all you can say? wow thought it cant get lower but you proof it does.

Its a well known expression.
You beeing so emo and sensitive i should have sensed that "sand under your foreskin" would be better. So sorry....  Roll Eyes


Or maybe you could learn how to speak to people in general. If you cannot respect people, you deserve none yourself.
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July 22, 2016, 08:52:41 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina
are you serious?  such a sexistic post ? is that all you can say? wow thought it cant get lower but you proof it does.

Its a well known expression.
You beeing so emo and sensitive i should have sensed that "sand under your foreskin" would be better. So sorry....  Roll Eyes


Or maybe you could learn how to speak to people in general. If you cannot respect people, you deserve none yourself.

That went out the window after pages of useless whining.
Move to another thread.

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July 22, 2016, 08:55:07 AM
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Ethereum bagholders are very nervous. Dump season is coming and there is nobody to dump to.
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July 22, 2016, 08:58:40 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina
are you serious?  such a sexistic post ? is that all you can say? wow thought it cant get lower but you proof it does.

Its a well known expression.
You beeing so emo and sensitive i should have sensed that "sand under your foreskin" would be better. So sorry....  Roll Eyes


Or maybe you could learn how to speak to people in general. If you cannot respect people, you deserve none yourself.

That went out the window after pages of useless whining.
Move to another thread.

Or you could just stop whining about us being here. We have no reason to move to another thread. We're talking about ETH.

If this thread was closed then we'd be on the Ethereum Classic thread. You would then have to create a new thread for your new centralized version of Ethereum. mETH (mutable Ether) or ETHHF (Ether Hard Fork) or I guess you should go with ETH-DAOFORK1. Whatever works for you guys, I suppose.
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July 22, 2016, 09:03:43 AM
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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened.  The HF is done with.  If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread.  Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum.  Cool
hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.  
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?


So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina
are you serious?  such a sexistic post ? is that all you can say? wow thought it cant get lower but you proof it does.

Its a well known expression.
You beeing so emo and sensitive i should have sensed that "sand under your foreskin" would be better. So sorry....  Roll Eyes


Or maybe you could learn how to speak to people in general. If you cannot respect people, you deserve none yourself.

That went out the window after pages of useless whining.
Move to another thread.

Or you could just stop whining about us being here. We have no reason to move to another thread. We're talking about ETH.

If this thread was closed then we'd be on the Ethereum Classic thread. You would then have to create a new thread for your new centralized version of Ethereum. mETH (mutable Ether) or ETHHF (Ether Hard Fork) or I guess you should go with ETH-DAOFORK1. Whatever works for you guys, I suppose.

This thread belongs to Ethereum and the dev team.
Thats why this is the main thread.

I saw multiple tries on new threads yesterday ... i guess it hurts that people ignore the feeble cries.

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July 22, 2016, 09:11:00 AM
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This thread belongs to Ethereum and the dev team.
Thats why this is the main thread.

I saw multiple tries on new threads yesterday ... i guess it hurts that people ignore the feeble cries.

The new thread isn't being ignored at all. You should view it, there doesn't appear to be any crying there.

It can be the main thread, but, as long as it is, there will be people here for and against it. Feel free to keep whining about us being here, but I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore.

I'll reply to you when you say something interesting, until then, your feeble cries about us being here will be ignored. Have a nice day.
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