[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[Bakemat]

This thread belongs to Ethereum and the dev team.
Thats why this is the main thread.

I saw multiple tries on new threads yesterday ... i guess it hurts that people ignore the feeble cries.

I do not see Vitalik or other developers post here. It seems they use the Etheurm forum or the reddit more.

[roselee]

@Perrylfor

lets find a new name for this after fork ether
tyranether ?
banksterether?
bailoutether?

 
ok serious what does this mean for the future?
if ether would become the world computer it would be very bad haveing such a low ethic ruling. tyrany of the welth. gosh that would be bad.
becouse they say it was a consensus of all in the comunity .
i dont think so.
if you have a million ether and each counts in the vote as one voice wow thats no demogracy
and i guess slockit guys and vitalic did vote with there ether wouldnt them have had 90% of votes?
i guess one wallet one voice would have been democratic.

[bitpop]

Vitalik is not being honest and closing this thread

[bbc.reporter]

So, how you guys see this going? I personally think it'll go down until we get closer to the devcon date. As now Coinbase addition is behind us and DAO holders will be cashing out their eth refunds. Correct me if I am missing something. Also, what is the latest on the classic? Any major exchange planning to add it?

In terms of ETHC (Ethereum Classic) vs ETHF (Ethereum Fork), it will be a matter of time to see which one will prevail. Either way, I don't think ETHF will be done for so easilly, not even if DAO holders would massively cash out. Actually, anything can happen.. Time will tell!

Does ETHC have a chance? There are more miners and pools supporting ETHF right? The ones supporting classic will have to switch because what's the use? How can they make profit by supporting what is considered a dead chain by the Ethereum founders themselves?

If the miners and pools supporting ETHC cannot cash in their coins then they will give up before the end of the year.

[bitpop]

So, how you guys see this going? I personally think it'll go down until we get closer to the devcon date. As now Coinbase addition is behind us and DAO holders will be cashing out their eth refunds. Correct me if I am missing something. Also, what is the latest on the classic? Any major exchange planning to add it?

In terms of ETHC (Ethereum Classic) vs ETHF (Ethereum Fork), it will be a matter of time to see which one will prevail. Either way, I don't think ETHF will be done for so easilly, not even if DAO holders would massively cash out. Actually, anything can happen.. Time will tell!

Does ETHC have a chance? There are more miners and pools supporting ETHF right? The ones supporting classic will have to switch because what's the use? How can they make profit by supporting what is considered a dead chain by the Ethereum founders themselves?

If the miners and pools supporting ETHC cannot cash in their coins then they will give up before the end of the year.

We have a strong community https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0

[thevictimofuktyranny]

So, how you guys see this going? I personally think it'll go down until we get closer to the devcon date. As now Coinbase addition is behind us and DAO holders will be cashing out their eth refunds. Correct me if I am missing something. Also, what is the latest on the classic? Any major exchange planning to add it?

In terms of ETHC (Ethereum Classic) vs ETHF (Ethereum Fork), it will be a matter of time to see which one will prevail. Either way, I don't think ETHF will be done for so easilly, not even if DAO holders would massively cash out. Actually, anything can happen.. Time will tell!

Does ETHC have a chance? There are more miners and pools supporting ETHF right? The ones supporting classic will have to switch because what's the use? How can they make profit by supporting what is considered a dead chain by the Ethereum founders themselves?

If the miners and pools supporting ETHC cannot cash in their coins then they will give up before the end of the year.

We have a strong community https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0

Simply rule of life: the development team are the one's who govern and ensure progress occurs and when problems happen they get repaired quickly and act on useful feedback from their ANNs.

You follow the development team, because they are the people who add value to the ALT Coin.

Those trying to mine obsolete forks, have no development team and their Alt Coins have no value added prospects.

You can mine obsolete forks, but expect to be crying over it in 12 months time.

But, you don't have to follow my advice on that

[alienesb]

Lol at the rabble. You guys should try building something with all of your time and energy instead of always dumping on things.

[becoin]

Lol at the rabble. You guys should try building something with all of your time and energy instead of always dumping on things.

Lol at the advice. What's the point of building something related to ethereum if it can be hard forked by the ethereum central bankers?

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Lol at the rabble. You guys should try building something with all of your time and energy instead of always dumping on things.

Lol at the advice. What's the point of building something related to ethereum if it can be hard forked by the ethereum central bankers?

A naive argument: National Government have little interest in Alts or BTC.

They will only take an interest, should be criminal enterprises be related to it or a anarchistic revolutionary projects be connected to it.

Politicians derive "kudos" from knocking over criminal enterprises and anarchistic revolutionary projects.

BTC and Alts are cleaner than the real economy,

Real crime is done in Fiat Currencies or visible commodities and anarchistic revolutionary projects are interested in weapons, visible commodities and ruling regions.

No "Kudos" for politicians, which makes you argument bizarre.

So, yes, the developers and others can build around Ethereum.

[Slydrule]

Lol at the rabble. You guys should try building something with all of your time and energy instead of always dumping on things.

Lol at the advice. What's the point of building something related to ethereum if it can be hard forked by the ethereum central bankers?

A naive argument: National Government have little interest in Alts or BTC.

They will only take an interest, should be criminal enterprises be related to it or a anarchistic revolutionary projects be connected to it.

Politicians derive "kudos" from knocking over criminal enterprises and anarchistic revolutionary projects.

BTC and Alts are cleaner than the real economy,

Real crime is done in Fiat Currencies or visible commodities and anarchistic revolutionary projects are interested in weapons, visible commodities and ruling regions.

No "Kudos" for politicians, which makes you argument bizarre.

So, yes, the developers and others can build around Ethereum.

LOL.  This is very funny.  You should get out more often! 

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Lol at the rabble. You guys should try building something with all of your time and energy instead of always dumping on things.

Lol at the advice. What's the point of building something related to ethereum if it can be hard forked by the ethereum central bankers?

A naive argument: National Government have little interest in Alts or BTC.

They will only take an interest, should be criminal enterprises be related to it or a anarchistic revolutionary projects be connected to it.

Politicians derive "kudos" from knocking over criminal enterprises and anarchistic revolutionary projects.

BTC and Alts are cleaner than the real economy,

Real crime is done in Fiat Currencies or visible commodities and anarchistic revolutionary projects are interested in weapons, visible commodities and ruling regions.

No "Kudos" for politicians, which makes you argument bizarre.

So, yes, the developers and others can build around Ethereum.

LOL.  This is very funny.  You should get out more often! 

WOW!

A person posting on this thread who does not use statistics, theories, facts, evidence, data.

Try posting something with more words in it!

That, way when you do the "LOL" tag, forum readers don't start laughing at you, instead of the person you are criticising.

Just a Tip, for your future posts

But, you don't have to take my advice

[bitpop]

How exactly is ethf going to beat bitcoin? It almost lost $150 million in seconds, being pumped and dumped, hyper inflation, not immutable, premined, and massive supplies. And they want pos so the owners can syphon more value out.

All they're missing is a lock up period like paycoin and onecoin so the owners can dump, oh wait they had the doa which burned to the ground

All the dao are scams which will go bankrupt, they had a roulette game which can be forked out by the govt by holding vitalik in contempt until he forks again since he has no excuses now

They're already ready for doa round 2, they might be dumber than paycoiners
https://reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4twcix/crowdfunding_for_slockit/

[frostminer]

Despite all rumors and attempts on fudding..


ETH is up 15% with a nice volume.


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_eth

[bitpop]

Despite all rumors and attempts on fudding..


ETH is up 15% with a nice volume.


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_eth

That's what a pump and dump looks like

[frostminer]

Despite all rumors and attempts on fudding..


ETH is up 15% with a nice volume.


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_eth

That's what a pump and dump looks like

Ntawwww

Its cute that you're still trying.

[d57heinz]

The ones bitching about how this is a centralized bankers coin simply ignore the fact that Bitcoin is a centralizing coin and is the sole reason it won't up its blocksize. One will have to balance decentralization with transactions per second.  These same people live in a naive bubble thinking that In a world with unequal costs of resources that any of these crypto coins will stay decentralized.  With scale comes centralization.  Sooner one comes to this realization the less stressed out you will be.  That I know for certain. The reason I came to btc was the fact that it has no central control. But as you can see if something major were to go wrong with let's say a HF of somekind and everyone lost their asses. I'd like to see how that plays out in btc realm. It's always dependent on who has the most at stake.  Seems again we come to the scenario that investors put forth more than they could afford to lose. Thats rule number 1 or at least would be if I wrote the book.


Again one also needs to learn that most of this fud is all traders looking to close their positions.  I dont take much on btctalk to heart anymore.  Too many say things with their benefit in mind.   If the whole crypto community would come together instead being stuck on some fantasy of decentralization crypto would prolly be a threat to central banks and the endless supply of fiat. Instead it looks like we have people here with the sole intent to keep this community as decentralized as possible.  Remember the military uses the tactic divide and conquer. Well I sure as hell don't see how crypto solves this issue.  More of its achilles heal to me.  Now let's look at how many coins there are and all the talent being used on coins that may never amount to shit. the core devs of btc seem to be an elite group who don't like change!  

The issue I see with btc is the Chinese invested far more then they could afford to loose on asics.  Now they want the fees to go sky high I mean who wouldn't(miners being only beneficiary of that but since it's centralizing why w
Should miners be rewarded they aren't doing what they should). And then the users on other hand hate high fees. So again it's a balance.   price will always stay stagnant as the chain can't support more transactions.  The fact that btc is being manipulated by huge money interest seems to be of no concern to those shitting on eth.  I think all the coins have their issues and will so going forward but remember the old adage if you don't have something to contribute just keep out of it.  The constant fighting and bickering only comes when money is involved.  I do find that fascinating.  I truly believe the coin that sets to solve the worlds problem wont be exchangeable to any of our currencies. Also would spawn the right people to work on it.  Those looking to help others not self enrichment. Anyway nuff rambling from me.  Take a deep breath and count

Best regards
D57heinz

[xizmax]

Think this might be relevant to the discussion at hand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPMw6vuhV-4

[Mrpumperitis]

Saw this many times,
These are the noobs that sold low, now they cry
Why waste so much time typing here if you hate it? because you want cheap coin and your feeble attempts to FUD ETH are too late.
Butt hurt trolls,lol
I told all of you last week,
BUY OR CRY...this is them crying, while the smart guys were/are buying lol

$20+ ETH very soon...



BTW frosty +1 

[LucD88]

Saw this many times,
These are the noobs that sold low, now they cry
Why waste so much time typing here if you hate it? because you want cheap coin and your feeble attempts to FUD ETH are too late.
Butt hurt trolls,lol
I told all of you last week,
BUY OR CRY...this is them crying, while the smart guys were/are buying lol

$20+ ETH very soon...



BTW frosty +1 

Just ignore those people, and most importantly: Do not quote the trolls. Seems to work quite well in the DASH topic, heh.

[cohnhead]

Saw this many times,
These are the noobs that sold low, now they cry
Why waste so much time typing here if you hate it? because you want cheap coin and your feeble attempts to FUD ETH are too late.
Butt hurt trolls,lol
I told all of you last week,
BUY OR CRY...this is them crying, while the smart guys were/are buying lol

$20+ ETH very soon...



BTW frosty +1 

totally agree.....
amazing all the negativity from a small cabal of forum members, yet the $ and attention for ether coming from legitimate sources continues unabated....even seems to be picking up steam.
etherium is not going away.....hard fork actually made it stronger.....same cant be said for ether classic. for sure in 3-6 months when no one supports network it will just wither and die.