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July 25, 2012, 01:37:23 PM
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Why is that? To my understanding, apps would still need to expoit security bugs, and the mere existence of them is unrelated to wether you have rooted your phone or not.

Am I understanding this right - dishonest apps have the capability to steal your wallet regardless of whether or not the user has rooted the phone? Why then require the phone to be rooted to back up the wallet? It seems that this requirement has no additional safety benefit, but the negative aspect of making it harder for people to back up their wallets.

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July 26, 2012, 11:12:01 AM
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Obviously the long term plan is not to require rooting to back up the wallet. Backup isn't really properly supported right now (well, backup is, clean restore is the issue).
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August 16, 2012, 07:01:32 AM
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Is it only me or do we always have to pay the transaction fee when sending BTC?

I sent 0.0212 BTC and couldn't send without a fee =(
Isn't it suppose to be without a fee if sending more than 0.01 BTC?

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August 16, 2012, 07:03:11 AM
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Is it only me or do we always have to pay the transaction fee when sending BTC?

I sent 0.0212 BTC and couldn't send without a fee =(
Isn't it suppose to be without a fee if sending more than 0.01 BTC?

I've noticed that you have to pay a fee if you are sending transactions too often. I.e. right after getting them.
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August 16, 2012, 02:04:53 PM
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Is it only me or do we always have to pay the transaction fee when sending BTC?

I sent 0.0212 BTC and couldn't send without a fee =(
Isn't it suppose to be without a fee if sending more than 0.01 BTC?

I've noticed that you have to pay a fee if you are sending transactions too often. I.e. right after getting them.

Basically, a transaction with 1 input, 1 output and worth 1 bitcoin will take 144 confirmations (1 days worth of mining) to be sent without a fee.  If its larger in size because of multiple inputs/outputs, then it will take more confirmations.  If the transaction is less than 1 bitcoin, it will take more confirmations. 

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August 24, 2012, 07:58:15 PM
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Obviously the long term plan is not to require rooting to back up the wallet. Backup isn't really properly supported right now (well, backup is, clean restore is the issue).
Long term plan should be HD wallets, no?
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August 26, 2012, 11:09:16 AM
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I just received some BTC as mined coins. There's a bug which shows the coins as fully confirmed after 6 confirmations instead of 120.
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August 27, 2012, 03:15:05 AM
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I love this Bitcoin Wallet app! It seriously needs a simple private key export. Import is not at all important.

Would it be possible to AES encrypt the keys based on a user inputted password then allow that file/text to be "shared" via the standard Android share options?

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August 31, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
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I have the android wallet and I must say that I'm not very happy with it's performance. It works well, but when it starts to download the blocks, my whole device freezes up and I am unable to do anything for quite a while. I have an app watcher and it tells me the app will take 80-90% of a processor power for a while. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2...
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August 31, 2012, 04:35:22 PM
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I have the android wallet and I must say that I'm not very happy with it's performance. It works well, but when it starts to download the blocks, my whole device freezes up and I am unable to do anything for quite a while. I have an app watcher and it tells me the app will take 80-90% of a processor power for a while. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2...

Is your device mostly caught up with blocks or is it coming off a fresh start that its downloading the whole chain?

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September 01, 2012, 08:44:22 AM
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I have the android wallet and I must say that I'm not very happy with it's performance. It works well, but when it starts to download the blocks, my whole device freezes up and I am unable to do anything for quite a while. I have an app watcher and it tells me the app will take 80-90% of a processor power for a while. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2...

Is your device mostly caught up with blocks or is it coming off a fresh start that its downloading the whole chain?

it is mostly caught up, but downloading even half a day worth of blocks freezes the device for a minute. It's not always, but sometimes it gets very slow, or totally frozen
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September 02, 2012, 07:14:27 AM
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I have the android wallet and I must say that I'm not very happy with it's performance. It works well, but when it starts to download the blocks, my whole device freezes up and I am unable to do anything for quite a while. I have an app watcher and it tells me the app will take 80-90% of a processor power for a while. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2...

Is your device mostly caught up with blocks or is it coming off a fresh start that its downloading the whole chain?

it is mostly caught up, but downloading even half a day worth of blocks freezes the device for a minute. It's not always, but sometimes it gets very slow, or totally frozen

Can you take this issue to the bug tracker?

http://code.google.com/p/bitcoin-wallet/issues/list


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September 12, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
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I just tried to sell someone Bitcoin in person and Bitcoin Wallet didn't work for me.

When I open the program on my Droid 4, it say BTC 32.4something

I sent my Bitcoin Wallet 20 and 10 BTC last night. These two transactions have 94 and 99 confirmations according to blockchain.info.

But when I just tried to give 32 BTC to the person I was selling to, I write in under "Amount to Pay: 32" and an error message popped up that said (and still says) "Available for spending BTC2.83 (BTC 29.6489 waiting for confirmation)"

How can it still be waiting for confirmation on that much Bitcoin when the 20 and 10 BTC transactions in last night have 90+ confirmations?

The two transactions into my wallet last night also have full green circles on the program, which I thought indicated that they were fully confirmed.

Please help!

edit: I noticed now that it allows me to spend these bitcoins, right when they have passed 100 confirmations. Are 100 confirmations really necessary? That seems way too high - 5 or 6 are OK for the main client, why would 100 be required for Android Bitcoin Wallet?

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September 12, 2012, 05:48:45 PM
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How can it still be waiting for confirmation on that much Bitcoin when the 20 and 10 BTC transactions in last night have 90+ confirmations?

Because Bitcoin Wallet for Android keeps the blockchain local to the phone, and needs to catch up to the rest of the network on it's own.  This is the primary reason that I've switched to BitcoinSpinner, which uses a divided wallet method & keeps the blockchain on the BitconSpinner server instead.

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September 12, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
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How can it still be waiting for confirmation on that much Bitcoin when the 20 and 10 BTC transactions in last night have 90+ confirmations?

Because Bitcoin Wallet for Android keeps the blockchain local to the phone, and needs to catch up to the rest of the network on it's own.  This is the primary reason that I've switched to BitcoinSpinner, which uses a divided wallet method & keeps the blockchain on the BitconSpinner server instead.

But my Bitcoin Wallet is completely synchronized - so it should be seeing all 90+ confirmations on the bitcoins in my wallet.

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"Early adopters will profit" is not a sufficient condition to classify something as a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. If it was, Apple and Microsoft stock are Ponzi schemes.

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September 12, 2012, 06:25:31 PM
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I realize that Transaction Details are experimental, but here's an interesting thing about that: As I said, I sent 20 BTC to my Bitcoin Wallet address last night. I see this transaction on Bitcoin Wallet under "Received". I also see it on blockchain.info

But when I try to view Transaction Details for this transaction on Bitcoin Wallet, it shows a "Receiver" address which is NOT my Android Bitcoin Wallet address.

When I sent my Bitcoins from my laptop address L to my Wallet address W, it sent the remainder of L to address R.

When I look at the Transaction Details, it shows "Receiver" as address R. It should be showing address W.

Do not waste your time debating whether Bitcoin can work. It does work.

"Early adopters will profit" is not a sufficient condition to classify something as a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. If it was, Apple and Microsoft stock are Ponzi schemes.

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September 12, 2012, 06:51:54 PM
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I noticed now that it allows me to spend these bitcoins, right when they have passed 100 confirmations. Are 100 confirmations really necessary? That seems way too high - 5 or 6 are OK for the main client, why would 100 be required for Android Bitcoin Wallet?

it appears that this issue is on the bug tracker number 13: http://code.google.com/p/bitcoin-wallet/issues/list?can=2&q=&sort=priority&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Milestone%20Owner%20Summary

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September 12, 2012, 09:50:18 PM
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Note that coinbase transactions require 100 confirmations before you can spend them.
(In bitcoind you have to wait 120 confirmations for coinbase transactions.)

If the BTC you are spending has just been mined you have to wait longer before you can spend them. This is a restriction of the bitcoin network.
(The reason for this is coinbases do not survive reorgs).


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September 13, 2012, 02:12:16 PM
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Note that coinbase transactions require 100 confirmations before you can spend them.
(In bitcoind you have to wait 120 confirmations for coinbase transactions.)

If the BTC you are spending has just been mined you have to wait longer before you can spend them. This is a restriction of the bitcoin network.
(The reason for this is coinbases do not survive reorgs).


My understanding is that 'coinbase' transactions involve newly mined Bitcoins? If so, that was not the case in my issue - the coins had been on my laptop wallet for months. But perhaps this is related to my problem. Maybe Bitcoin Wallet thinks they are coinbase transactions when they are not? I think having the same 100-confirmation point would be too much of a coincidence.

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September 13, 2012, 03:10:56 PM
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My understanding is that 'coinbase' transactions involve newly mined Bitcoins? If so, that was not the case in my issue - the coins had been on my laptop wallet for months. But perhaps this is related to my problem. Maybe Bitcoin Wallet thinks they are coinbase transactions when they are not? I think having the same 100-confirmation point would be too much of a coincidence.

I saw something on the dev list a week or two ago about how they were migrating some stuff to a different format and storing more info about confidence levels or some such.  Did you recently do a software update (or perhaps it did it automatically) of bitcoin wallet?

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