[ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]

[zumzero]

DTS, will you please sell up like you promised and give us all a break.  You wanted an exit and now you have one.  Oh, and stop your trademark FUD over in the Maidsafe thread as well, it's getting on my tits. You are a liar.  You have learned jack shit about jumping into assets as your recent venture into Maidsafe for an instant 50% loss proves.  You clearly did zero research and jumped in because of the hype.

knybe, you are as bad as DTS.  You've bitched and moaned like a trooper for months.  Now you also have an exit so please give us all a break and take it.  Either that or stop your moaning and grow a pair.

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[drawingthesun]

DTS, will you please sell up like you promised and give us all a break.  You wanted an exit and now you have one.  Oh, and stop your trademark FUD over in the Maidsafe thread as well, it's getting on my tits.

knybe, you are as bad as DTS.  You've bitched and moaned like a trooper for months.  Now you also have an exit so please give us all a break and take it.  Either that or stop your moaning and grow a pair.

Don't worry Zum I will be gone very soon.

Also I haven't posted in the Maidsafe thread for ages. I have actually stopped, perhaps read the timestamps next time.

[granitemouse]

DTS, will you please sell up like you promised and give us all a break.  You wanted an exit and now you have one.  Oh, and stop your trademark FUD over in the Maidsafe thread as well, it's getting on my tits.

knybe, you are as bad as DTS.  You've bitched and moaned like a trooper for months.  Now you also have an exit so please give us all a break and take it.  Either that or stop your moaning and grow a pair.

Can't say the price being a hundredth of what it once was is a realistic exit for anyone at this point.

[zumzero]

From the Maidsafe thread a mere two days ago!   Lol, you double liar!

Wow 0.000030 BTC per MaidSafe.
Going down from 0.000058, such investment.
Much profit -50%
Very worth it

The investment has turned sour for us Bitcoin investors, however the Mastercoin bagholders are up 2 times on their investment.

DTS, will you please sell up like you promised and give us all a break.  You wanted an exit and now you have one.  Oh, and stop your trademark FUD over in the Maidsafe thread as well, it's getting on my tits.

knybe, you are as bad as DTS.  You've bitched and moaned like a trooper for months.  Now you also have an exit so please give us all a break and take it.  Either that or stop your moaning and grow a pair.

Can't say the price being a hundredth of what it once was is a realistic exit for anyone at this point.

I quite agree, but remember some of these drama queens have promised to leave the moment they can trade shares.  There are a number of them and I can't wait to see their backs.

[drawingthesun]

From the Maidsafe thread a mere two days ago!   Lol, you double liar!

Wow 0.000030 BTC per MaidSafe.
Going down from 0.000058, such investment.
Much profit -50%
Very worth it

The investment has turned sour for us Bitcoin investors, however the Mastercoin bagholders are up 2 times on their investment.

Haha I actually forgot about that reply I made. Point made sir!

Although I was correcting his misinformation, as the IPO is not down 50% for all investors is it?

[zumzero]

There wasn't a Maidsafe IPO.  There will never be shares or dividends.  If you had done your research as you claim, you wouldn't make these faux pas and wouldn't have to s**t up these threads and force others to have to read your nonsense.  Please just sell up and go.

[knybe]

DTS, will you please sell up like you promised and give us all a break.  You wanted an exit and now you have one.  Oh, and stop your trademark FUD over in the Maidsafe thread as well, it's getting on my tits.

knybe, you are as bad as DTS.  You've bitched and moaned like a trooper for months.  Now you also have an exit so please give us all a break and take it.  Either that or stop your moaning and grow a pair.

Can't say the price being a hundredth of what it once was is a realistic exit for anyone at this point.

yeah a few of the wordier "ballsy" ones around here don't quite seem to get that concept… I'd be out in a heartbeat if my hands weren't so tied.

[drawingthesun]

There wasn't a Maidsafe IPO.  There will never be shares or dividends.  If you had done your research as you claim, you wouldn't make these faux pas and wouldn't have to s**t up these threads and force others to have to read your nonsense.  Please just sell up and go.

Please read:

http://maidsafe.net/network-platform-licensing

Our code is protected by a revenue clause that allows non-GPL codebases to be created completely at the behest of the developer, with only a very small 1% (of revenue) fee without any additional charges, such as developer programs or API keys. The revenue generated here enables MaidSafe to maintain and improve the network for the vast majority of free users, while also repaying our brilliant and patient shareholders. The 1% charge is designed to be small enough that it encourages the businesses, entrepreneurs and innovators of the future, with much lower barriers to entry than they experience within today’s server centric architecture. Compare our offering with the Apple app store, which takes 30% of the developers income while charging a yearly up front developer program fee.

The people who bought MaidSafecoin are not shareholders but we are indirectly invested in the venture that is being run by a company. This was the first public offering of an asset that gives us a return and gives Maidsafe money to continue development of a product.

If you read it for what it is, it's very close to being an IPO.

[zumzero]

But there are some people (like me) who would be happy to liquidate shares at prices much lower than that.

It's true that 0.00015 is optimistic. To be honest I doubt we'll ever see above 0.00005 once we start trading all 10,000,000 shares.

I argue that 0.00015 will be our peak after share release, with the companies account allowing for a stable price of 0.00008. Of course if we have to wait 3 months to get competitors chips then 0.00001 will be more likely.

Any approximation to the value of each ActiveMining share?

Just wondering.

I currently value a share at 0.00015 btc.

I know that a million shares are ready to sell around the 0.0001 - 0.0002 mark as soon as we trade.

Quoted for posterity.   

[drawingthesun]

Just another 990,000 to go!

[zumzero]

Just because you PM'd people and asked them how many shares they own doesn't mean you got honest answers.  

[damiano]

Yay got my shares

[lobbes]

Yay got my shares

Awesome. How long did it take?

[damiano]

Yay got my shares

Awesome. How long did it take?

I emailed last night at 1030pm pacific time and it's now 12pm.  Pretty quick since I know a lot of other people were ahead of me

[ChefBorjan]

DTS, will you please sell up like you promised and give us all a break.  You wanted an exit and now you have one.  Oh, and stop your trademark FUD over in the Maidsafe thread as well, it's getting on my tits. You are a liar.  You have learned jack shit about jumping into assets as your recent venture into Maidsafe for an instant 50% loss proves.  You clearly did zero research and jumped in because of the hype.

knybe, you are as bad as DTS.  You've bitched and moaned like a trooper for months.  Now you also have an exit so please give us all a break and take it.  Either that or stop your moaning and grow a pair.

A million times this.

[1369]

But Ken, if the reports are audited, how are trolls possibly going to question your every move... this is terrible news for the troll community... 

trollcoin -78% on cryptsy

Trollcoin on Cryptsy? Lulz!

[SebastianJu]

Seems not to go that fast now anymore. Sent a hour ago and nothing yet.

What i would like to know now is what income we made from selling miners, what funds are left from IPO and what part of all that, including mining income, will be given out as divs. Would be important to judge the shareprice. Future profits have to be guessed, until ken doesnt come with infos, too.

[somestranger]

The gold rush card dropped to $999 and the website is STILL not fixed. That should be a higher priority than giving people nearly worthless shares (4% of what many of us paid ...).

[ASKen]

Seems not to go that fast now anymore. Sent a hour ago and nothing yet.

What i would like to know now is what income we made from selling miners, what funds are left from IPO and what part of all that, including mining income, will be given out as divs. Would be important to judge the shareprice. Future profits have to be guessed, until ken doesnt come with infos, too.

Drop us a pm with these questions and we'll be sure to add them for Ken's attention.

[tempestb]

The website should also take Bitcoin as payment.  I know Ken will take Bitcoin if someone emails him, but it should be straight forward.  Bank Transfer is the real problem.  That and it probably should come with the cooler.  Or have another SKU that includes the cooler with it.  It's easier for people to buy Antminers that are plug and play than it is jumping through the hoops to buy the arguably cheaper boards VMC is selling.