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Author Topic: The Cypherfunks[FUNK]: a coin for a global band! Talking v2. Join! 80+ songs  (Read 148737 times)
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April 23, 2014, 09:25:49 PM
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It was a small amount of what I mined the week or so before I sold my 5.5 MH/s rig, was only mining FUNK for around 8-9 days, but had quite a bit of the network speed and was going it solo, so it's the least I can do to hopefully help out others with what I have in the bank as it were Smiley
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  it's a long way up the ladder over at comkort, 66 votes needed to pass CDN

 i use [this], reminds me every so often ...   Wink

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April 24, 2014, 07:58:29 AM
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 it's a long way up the ladder over at comkort, 66 votes needed to pass CDN

 i use [this], reminds me every so often ...   Wink

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oh nice! Clever idea. I keep forgetting during all the coding. This will help. Smiley

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April 24, 2014, 08:22:26 AM
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Here we are on 10and5: http://10and5.com/2014/04/24/the-cypherfunks-a-cryptocurrency-and-online-music-experiment/

How did I do?

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April 24, 2014, 09:54:06 AM
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Oh snap!

More good news. Derek Sivers responded to my mail!

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Ha! I LOVE it. Fucking brilliant. Thanks for telling me about this. I'm so glad you're doing this.

I'm full-up with my own projects, so no need to send me some FUNK, though thanks for the offer.  For now I'll just bookmark it to tell some others about, and maybe take you up on your offer someday.

I asked him if he has some music lying around he wants to share.

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April 24, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
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Hello Cypherfunks! You have a nice idea here guys.

A few suggestions:
- Make it a N-factor scrypt (ASIC resistant). This will attract more people and keep the ASICS out (this is really important).
- Why not promoting it as a decentralized currency for digital distribution of music. This way the musicians can benefit from the crypto-currency revolution directly. FUNKS can be used to promote, sponsor, advertise .etc the new artists
- In general you could make it about all the bedroom producers and garage acts not only your band Smiley and assist the music community to become decentralized too. 

Again a great idea ! 


I agree with you that advice, let more people know the existence of the coin is the most important thing
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April 24, 2014, 11:53:42 AM
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 i went over to soundcloud, was looking for bands that have posted a donation addy, and managed to send some FUNK, but there was some difficulty:

i copy-pasted the visible address, but it was invalid, it looked short to me, so i tried zooming, and that worked for a couple of them, but now this is what i get:

cannot get full addy. i'm using chrome

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April 24, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
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Beranie posted in the comments another address: https://soundcloud.com/beranie/yue-xia-du-zhuo-ep-mix

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Hi Emman! Welcome. We are trying our best! Help us if you can. Smiley

On the wallets. I've patched something else that I finally got working. Unfortunately, the pchMessageStart is similar to Litecoin (in fact, shitloads of coins haven't changed this). It is not extremely detrimental, but it needs to be changed so other messages from other networks don't interfere with ours. Unfortunately you can't change it without breaking (hardforking) it, so we are future-proofing it. Somewhere down the line we will hard-fork when no one uses the old clients anymore. Thanks to n00bnoxious for some feedback on this.


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April 24, 2014, 03:21:26 PM
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Here is the furthest branch containing the fixes. I tested it, and it seems to work fine.

https://github.com/The-Cypherfunks/The-Cypherfunks/commits/pch_future_proof

If anyone wants to peruse the code for possible problems, please do. Otherwise I'll compile the wallets tomorrow and release the new minor version.


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April 25, 2014, 01:55:03 PM
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Finally!

After ages of compiling for windows, I have the new wallets out. Please update (not mandatory, but recommended)!

ALWAYS back-up your wallets before installing a new version.
https://github.com/The-Cypherfunks/The-Cypherfunks/releases/tag/1.0.1.0

If something doesn't work, please ping me.

EDIT: Still need to mail the faucet guy! Will do that today. Oh, btw, during the editing I discovered fixes for Bitcoin. First code commit to Bitcoin Core itself! Very chuffed (even if it is just a small fix).

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April 26, 2014, 08:37:35 AM
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Mailed the faucet guy. Suggested we pay out the bounty to him for a few months of hosting. Is that okay?

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April 26, 2014, 06:52:36 PM
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WTS 593885053 FUNK (593.8Mil) , Offers ?

For any Graphics Design PM me Wink
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April 27, 2014, 05:16:11 AM
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I really love some of the music uploaded to Soundcloud - awesome!

I've been thinking about the FUNK currency, and I think of all the altcoins at the moment FUNK has one of the best chances for success. Most other altcoins wont be useful in the long run, but FUNK could be as a 'complementary currency' as it is targeted at a specific audience.

I like this definition "a complementary currency can match unused resources with unmet needs"

So, in the world of music and musicians you need to identify:

1 - unused resources (e.g. a musician who would like to perform but isn't)
2 - unmet needs (e.g. someone who wants entertainment)

and then match them using FUNK as the payment method.

One way to do this would be to organise events like festivals and concerts where the musicians MUST be paid in FUNK, and the tickets must be paid for in FUNK. At the start you could give-away sufficient FUNK to cover the ticket to almost everyone but it would encourage people to setup a wallet. These events would be like FUNK faucets. Most musicians often play for free anyway, but with FUNK there's always the chance that their FUNK payment for playing would be worth something eventually.

Eventually if FUNK caught on people would go to an exchange to buy FUNK for the payment. Once we have mobile payment options for crypto currencies this would be easy (hopefully!)

Another idea would be to license the music from the Cypherfunk stable for use in advertising, movies etc etc and always pay & charge in FUNK.

As a local/complementary currency for musicians the options are limitless for FUNK. Just match unused resources with unmet needs by making all payments in FUNK.

I would really love to see FUNK & the Cypherfunks succeed, and I think the key is to borrow from all the great ideas of complementary currency pioneers.

One guy I can recommend is Berbard Lietaer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Lietaer. He's a complementary currency Yoda, and his books would be useful as far as ideas on how to make FUNK a music 'complementary/local currency'. All his books are good.

This is his latest:
http://www.amazon.com/Rethinking-Money-Currencies-Scarcity-Prosperity/dp/1609942965

Just wanted to pass that idea on.

Good luck!

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April 27, 2014, 09:59:44 AM
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Oh wow! MadCow!

Thanks so much for the book recommendation. I've been looking for new books to read. Getting that asap.

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1 - unused resources (e.g. a musician who would like to perform but isn't)
2 - unmet needs (e.g. someone who wants entertainment)

Very good way of describing it. An example of this that I envisioned is the capability for Cypherfunks to crowdfund gigs/venues from around the world for people. Being in the music scene, a lot of people tell me how they struggle to get gigs to play. To 'start', they try to piggy-back on top of other more successful bands that can pull a crowd. They can't afford to pay a venue as they can't pull a crowd (yet).

So one method I thought where Cypherfunks could help is to help fund the minimum required for a small venue so the band play, get their friends in, jam & just have fun. Only requirement is that the band must have contributed to Cypherfunks at some stage.

I'll talk to my friend about this idea as well. His band is still small, but really awesome.

@Hanoosh. There's liquidity in the LTC market. https://www.allcrypt.com/market?id=562

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April 27, 2014, 01:09:54 PM
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The update for the week: http://blog.thecypherfunks.com/post/84014285795/band-meeting-week-ending-27-april-2014

I really, really need to get back to my start-up, but I plan to hopefully fix up the DNS seed node this week so I can get back to finishing the Android wallet!

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April 27, 2014, 07:14:46 PM
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Woohoo. Remixed Soundposition's "Tasty Snack".

Really chuffed with this one: https://soundcloud.com/simon-segfault/the-cypherfunks-bite-of-life!

Band high five!

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April 27, 2014, 10:17:09 PM
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I'm gonna have to download a few of those tracks and do a mix of them, haven't played in a few months and these will be ideal to use in a new set Smiley
Will post it up once I get round to it of course Smiley
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April 27, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
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Really nice Remix Simon! High five!!
Great job on the wallet updates.

100,000,000 FUNK is going for about 1.00 BTC on Allcrypt

This morning I really started to think about the economic reality of the FUNK coin. If you take away the music part of it, and look at the coin itself. It's undervalued because it's either unknown to people, or they think it's a niche market. That's no matter how you look at it.

The fact is that currently the prices have been stable and this is good, because if you add the music part of it back in to the mix, this becomes much more than just another cryptocurrency. Now take the currency part out and just look at the music part of it. You have open source music which like Simon said in his recent interview is that we are like minstrels of the old days. I really like that idea that we are bringing back the wandering minstrels of yesterday.

The only part I disagree with, and maybe I'm wrong is the part about the demand for the currency increasing with the popularity of the music. The way I see it, the demand for the currency will increase when people want something they can only get with FUNK coin. Right now, I make the music and it goes up on Soundcloud for free, which is what I wanted.

So here's where the reality check comes in to play. I can make more FUNK coins mining them than I can making music. It sours my pickle to hear that someone would have hundreds of millions of FUNK, which they mined just sitting there in a wallet. Now, imagine if the FUNK coin were a feed the hungry coin. A FOODCoin (why hasn't anyone made that yet?) that did something noble like feeding the hungry (which the FUNK coin is supposed to do BTW, musicians get hungry too). If someone just hoarded the coins in their wallets, no starving person would get fed.

If I spend an hour making a remix pack I can get 100,000 FUNK. I've been getting almost all of my FUNK contributions from the Cypherfunks wallet from Simon, and not much has come in from anywhere else yet. It feels really good to get some FUNK after working on music, because I feel like I'm finally getting paid for working on music. The problem is that I can make more money mining FUNK than I can making music.

The only way I can see the Cypherfunk work, (which I'm convinced it will) and by work I mean as a way to feed the musician and more.. Is to turn this currency into something that will provide people something they can only get with FUNK coin.

One of the biggest problems with BTC is how do people spend them?  Solutions to that problem are appearing everyday for bitcoin. Still today we don't have a solution for the FUNK coin. We need a way to use the Soundcloud platform as a small teaser to convince people to spend FUNK coins to buy digital music or other music related products and services.

So we need a way to accept FUNK for purchases, just like Bitcoin can be accepted for purchases. A payment processor solution for FUNK.

I've been thinking of making an EP and releasing a single from the EP for free, and giving short samples of the EP to listen on Soundcloud. The rest of the EP you can buy with FUNK coin on my website or a Cypherfunks store.

I like the idea of everyone having their own website/store to decentralize the stores.

I just see what we need is a way to sell stuff using FUNK coins.

What are your thoughts?



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April 27, 2014, 11:06:14 PM
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I'm thinking of releasing the stems for moonlight?
https://soundcloud.com/soundposition/the-cypherfunks-moonlight

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April 28, 2014, 08:59:41 AM
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Really nice Remix Simon! High five!!
Great job on the wallet updates.

100,000,000 FUNK is going for about 1.00 BTC on Allcrypt

This morning I really started to think about the economic reality of the FUNK coin. If you take away the music part of it, and look at the coin itself. It's undervalued because it's either unknown to people, or they think it's a niche market. That's no matter how you look at it.

The fact is that currently the prices have been stable and this is good, because if you add the music part of it back in to the mix, this becomes much more than just another cryptocurrency. Now take the currency part out and just look at the music part of it. You have open source music which like Simon said in his recent interview is that we are like minstrels of the old days. I really like that idea that we are bringing back the wandering minstrels of yesterday.

The only part I disagree with, and maybe I'm wrong is the part about the demand for the currency increasing with the popularity of the music. The way I see it, the demand for the currency will increase when people want something they can only get with FUNK coin. Right now, I make the music and it goes up on Soundcloud for free, which is what I wanted.

So here's where the reality check comes in to play. I can make more FUNK coins mining them than I can making music. It sours my pickle to hear that someone would have hundreds of millions of FUNK, which they mined just sitting there in a wallet. Now, imagine if the FUNK coin were a feed the hungry coin. A FOODCoin (why hasn't anyone made that yet?) that did something noble like feeding the hungry (which the FUNK coin is supposed to do BTW, musicians get hungry too). If someone just hoarded the coins in their wallets, no starving person would get fed.

If I spend an hour making a remix pack I can get 100,000 FUNK. I've been getting almost all of my FUNK contributions from the Cypherfunks wallet from Simon, and not much has come in from anywhere else yet. It feels really good to get some FUNK after working on music, because I feel like I'm finally getting paid for working on music. The problem is that I can make more money mining FUNK than I can making music.

The only way I can see the Cypherfunk work, (which I'm convinced it will) and by work I mean as a way to feed the musician and more.. Is to turn this currency into something that will provide people something they can only get with FUNK coin.

One of the biggest problems with BTC is how do people spend them?  Solutions to that problem are appearing everyday for bitcoin. Still today we don't have a solution for the FUNK coin. We need a way to use the Soundcloud platform as a small teaser to convince people to spend FUNK coins to buy digital music or other music related products and services.

So we need a way to accept FUNK for purchases, just like Bitcoin can be accepted for purchases. A payment processor solution for FUNK.

I've been thinking of making an EP and releasing a single from the EP for free, and giving short samples of the EP to listen on Soundcloud. The rest of the EP you can buy with FUNK coin on my website or a Cypherfunks store.

I like the idea of everyone having their own website/store to decentralize the stores.

I just see what we need is a way to sell stuff using FUNK coins.

What are your thoughts?


It will certainly help to have a unique use case for the currency. It is not required, but definitely helps.

I wish I had more time to work on this (or at least more resources). I've been neglecting my start-up, so I need to get back to that asap.

fwiw, we've been thinking of repurposing http://min.io (old side-project developed with a friend) to work with FUNK. But I wouldn't do it to sell the music. The music should be free (as much as possible). Also, how do we divide up sales? Theoretically, anyone has permission to re-sell it for their own gain, but it's not ideal.

One thing I did think about recently... Every 6 months or so, we should compile a "greatest hits" album. We do a 1 week voting period of all the songs released since then. Do a voting for a cover. Get money for someone to master/mix the songs properly (if we don't have a person in the community to do that), then release it on iTunes, Beatport, Rdio, Spotify, etc. Everywhere. Then all proceeds gets turned into BTC. Now we just need to figure out what to do with the BTC. Either we keep it for projects (crowdfunding gigs or something), OR what I like more: we use it to buy up FUNK on exchanges and then simply destroy it (this is easier than figuring out whom to give it to).

That way we increase liquidity, increase price, decrease supply & launch music to the world, making the network spread.

In other words, our music becomes our multipool. Proceeds from the music (in traditional markets) feed into buying up FUNK on exchanges and destroying it.

We could actually start that as an experiment. RIGHT NOW. We choose & vote for a song/single and we go through the whole process. If everyone likes it, we need to start figuring out the costs.

Things that need to happen:

1) Choose a single. Best way to do this? Vote on Reddit?
2) Get a member to master/mix it to standards.
3) Do a contest for cover art.
4) Determine costs to get on iTunes, Spotify, Rdio & so forth.
5) Put for sale on bandcamp as well.
6) Draft a PR page. We send it all music media sites. Pitchfork, NPR, etc.

The original unmastered version will remain free to listen & downloadable.

All sales will be put into BTC/LTC and be used to buy up FUNK and then subsequently destroy it.

I haven't through this whole process of getting music on these sites. Anyone have ideas?

Thoughts?

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