[ANN] Blacknet BLN | Staking | Future of zApp & ZeFi

[mishax1]

somehow for some reason some fucking twat has spent over half a million dollars taking Blackcoin to the 16K range

this same fucking twat is now going to hold on to 16K range using bots until he makes his next move

i have candy for you in the upper range 

If some was spending $500K on Black, we would get to 40K satoshi , not 16K ... 

[Anduril_FotW]

Hi guys/ girls,

I have a question with regards to staking:

It looks like my wallet is not staking correctly.
This because my last minted coins were received on 9/7/14 and when I stake now, my weight is only 15280, which are the coins in my wallet.
As I understand it, my minting probability should be at the max now, so my weight shoul be much much higher.

Can anybody explain this to me ? Or is there something wrong with my client ?

Thanks 

[TrackCoin]

I m great fan of BC because how long I know about BC achieved very much satisfaction place which is they deserve as usual. I have very great expectation from BC how them activities, well marketing system, all over them great activities.

[publicjud]

Hi guys/ girls,

I have a question with regards to staking:

It looks like my wallet is not staking correctly.
This because my last minted coins were received on 9/7/14 and when I stake now, my weight is only 15280, which are the coins in my wallet.
As I understand it, my minting probability should be at the max now, so my weight shoul be much much higher.

Can anybody explain this to me ? Or is there something wrong with my client ?

Thanks 

PoS 2.0 added some security features.  I think of it as an upper limit on your weight.  So you can't just hold for years and then come with a very high network weight and control the network for a time.

[naglas]

If some was spending $500K on Black, we would get to 40K satoshi , not 16K ... 

is there a way to see beyond the orders visible on exchanges? or was 40k an arbitrary number?

[Subtuppel]

If some was spending $500K on Black, we would get to 40K satoshi , not 16K ... 

is there a way to see beyond the orders visible on exchanges? or was 40k an arbitrary number?

no you can't.
And even if you could it would not mean anything since you cannot expect the order books just stay the same when people begin to buy (unless of course there is an absolutely stupid person that buys up the complete order book in one shot )

anyways, the complete volume since the sharp rise 9 days ago was more than 2 million USD or so, no idea where the 500k number comes from. 500k were passed as daily volume on 2 occasions alone.

[Anduril_FotW]

Hi guys/ girls,

I have a question with regards to staking:

It looks like my wallet is not staking correctly.
This because my last minted coins were received on 9/7/14 and when I stake now, my weight is only 15280, which are the coins in my wallet.
As I understand it, my minting probability should be at the max now, so my weight shoul be much much higher.

Can anybody explain this to me ? Or is there something wrong with my client ?

Thanks 

PoS 2.0 added some security features.  I think of it as an upper limit on your weight.  So you can't just hold for years and then come with a very high network weight and control the network for a time.

Ok, thanks. So the upper limit is then the number of coins in my wallet ?
So that actually means than that people with small to medium amounts of coins will basically never receive any staking rewards anymore and the people with large amounts of coins will receive almost all of the staking rewards, right ?

I think this really goes against what POS was intended for, namely that everybody, no matter how big or small the amount of coins, will eventually receive a set yearly percentage of their total coin amount as staking reward/ interest.

This can only be done in a fair way if the stakes that have not received any rewards for the longest time get the highest chance of being the next ones to receive it.

As I understand it now, my weight will never be any higher than 15K on a total network weight of currently about 10 million.
So I'd just as well not even make the effort to stake with those odds.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

[publicjud]

Hi guys/ girls,

I have a question with regards to staking:

It looks like my wallet is not staking correctly.
This because my last minted coins were received on 9/7/14 and when I stake now, my weight is only 15280, which are the coins in my wallet.
As I understand it, my minting probability should be at the max now, so my weight shoul be much much higher.

Can anybody explain this to me ? Or is there something wrong with my client ?

Thanks  

PoS 2.0 added some security features.  I think of it as an upper limit on your weight.  So you can't just hold for years and then come with a very high network weight and control the network for a time.

Ok, thanks. So the upper limit is then the number of coins in my wallet ?
So that actually means than that people with small to medium amounts of coins will basically never receive any staking rewards anymore and the people with large amounts of coins will receive almost all of the staking rewards, right ?

I think this really goes against what POS was intended for, namely that everybody, no matter how big or small the amount of coins, will eventually receive a set yearly percentage of their total coin amount as staking reward/ interest.

This can only be done in a fair way if the stakes that have not received any rewards for the longest time get the highest chance of being the next ones to receive it.

As I understand it now, my weight will never be any higher than 15K on a total network weight of currently about 10 million.
So I'd just as well not even make the effort to stake with those odds.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

You can read the white paper here: http://blackcoin.co/blackcoin-pos-protocol-v2-whitepaper.pdf

If you allow the coin age to increase linear to the time the coin has not staked, then someone could store coin age indefinitely and have a better chance of controlling the blockchain for a bit, when they brought there coins online.  While having less coins might mean you won't stake as often, you will still stake over time.  From my experience I would say right now you will stake about once a day with 15K network weight. (provided you have a good internet connection and decent computer)

[hiddensphinx]

I really do not want to say this

But unfortunately I have to say this now

It seems like BlackCoin has become the pump and dump coin in crypto world

even without zero developer news we multiply 300% in value?


We have a developer who is Russian

He speaks English now and then, maybe after drinking few Vodkas

Sighhhh...

[randywald]

I really do not want to say this

But unfortunately I have to say this now

It seems like BlackCoin has become the pump and dump coin in crypto world

even without zero developer news we multiply 300% in value?


We have a developer who is Russian

He speaks English now and then, maybe after drinking few Vodkas

Sighhhh...

300% is not impossible. If people want to invest more at 14k, then this price is stable. It just says us that this coin is very interesting for lots of people. Of course, there was a pump, and maybe the pump group dumped all the coins, but with such a high buy pressure and volume in the chinese markets, the price doesn't need to go down to 6000 again. And i'm sure that we will never hit 6000 again in 2015, when i look at the charts. I guess we will be stable at 12-14k, maybe 10k and then go to 50k till the end of the year. Everybody knows we will hit 50k anytime soon, so much people are ready to buy at 14k. That's it. No chance to buy lower. I would invest between 12-14k. Wait for the prisius technical analysis, then you will know it better .

There are markets with much much greater manipulation in the world.

[rat4]

We have a developer who is Russian

He speaks English now and then, maybe after drinking few Vodkas

Sighhhh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrU1hZxSEXQ

[Subtuppel]

I really do not want to say this

But unfortunately I have to say this now

It seems like BlackCoin has become the pump and dump coin in crypto world

even without zero developer news we multiply 300% in value?


We have a developer who is Russian

He speaks English now and then, maybe after drinking few Vodkas

Sighhhh...

So you apparently did not
- get the news that PoS 3.0 was said to be 1- max. 2 months from completion
- check the github commits where lots of steps towards PoS 3.0 have been checked in?

And besides that, please tell me how that BLK rise is worse than the recent ones of DOGE, VRC and countless other coins that are plain dead in terms of development?

I really do not want to say this, but unfortunately I have to say this now: it sometimes seems as if you live in a bitcointalk bubble and don't see anything that happens outside of this more or less abandoned thread *g*

[XbladeX]

...
And besides that, please tell me how that BLK rise is worse than the recent ones of DOGE, VRC and countless other coins that are plain dead in terms of development?
....

There is no point in argue what is better or worst at end of day overall crypto infrastructure is rising over time
today i can use blockchain.org using even SMS confirmations.
New people are entering into crypto word is going into internet and money like BTC BC NEM NXT will be used more or less
How many bittalk users we have comparing to world population when you look at africa there is dessert with crypto users
in short therm i belive nothing really change in long run crypto will be popular give it 20years.

I want retire someday so i want save some money best option is:
-buy house rent it pay loan
-buy gold (but in reality is have to keep away from thiefs it or buy it and store )
-buy BTC/BC and store it with cold wallet

in long run:
-house can be burned or destroyed
-gold can be stolen
-BTC can be worth 0.01$ or 10 000$ per BTC

but easiest way to save money is store money in crypto buy send it to paper wallet and be happy

PS: Just to remember in Cyprus people lost 50% saving in their bank aqq. In banks money are safier government allays can rip off you
by printing money, or take them away directly because you have to pay some fine that is why i love crypto concept so much.

[hansolo93]

I won't listen anyone from now on ,im buying in slowly with low amounts to not miss the train when real pump starts to 90k Satoshi

[fmasta]

I won't listen anyone from now on ,im selling in fastly with high amounts to not miss the train when real dump starts to 90 Satoshi

[fmasta]

the derp is STRONG in here!

crypto is safer that banks and real estate 

SubtlePoop

[fmasta]

I really do not want to say this

But unfortunately I have to say this now

It seems like BlackCoin has become the pump and dump coin in crypto world

even without zero developer news we multiply 300% in value?


We have a developer who is Russian

He speaks English now and then, maybe after drinking few Vodkas

Sighhhh...

So you apparently did not
- get the news that PoS 3.0 was said to be 1- max. 2 months from completion
- check the github commits where lots of steps towards PoS 3.0 have been checked in?

And besides that, please tell me how that BLK rise is worse than the recent ones of DOGE, VRC and countless other coins that are plain dead in terms of development?

I really do not want to say this, but unfortunately I have to say this now: it sometimes seems as if you live in a bitcointalk bubble and don't see anything that happens outside of this more or less abandoned thread *g*

Everyone that has a little programming background, can easily realise that the hype over bc spectacular development (orchestrated by SubtlePoop & co), is overrated...

There were several programmers once upon a time in BC. But they've all left the ship since. why ?

pos 3.0 has had 2 commits since last month and only one active developer right ?

[Subtuppel]

[...]drivel[...]
right ?

No.
You can repeat your lies as often as you want, it won't make them more true. Not that there is any risk that anybody could take your incoherent gibberish for serious.

[fmasta]

[...]drivel[...]
right ?

No.
You can repeat your lies as often as you want, it won't make them more true. Not that there is any risk that anybody could take your incoherent gibberish for serious.

"No." is not an argument SubtlePoop.

I have proof of what I'm saying.... as opposed to you. Here it is :


https://github.com/rat4/blackcoin/graphs/commit-activity


Also just tell me who else is developing BC besides rat4... If you want to show who is REALLY lying AND TRYING manipulating the "MASSES" ...

SubtlePoop

[Subtuppel]

There were several programmers once upon a time in BC. But they've all left the ship since. why ?

That is two lies in one line:
BLK had always exactly ONE core developer and that one did never "leave ship".
As for the groups developing tools/services around the coin: a few left, many new ones entered. Nothing that would be different from any other OSS project.

pos 3.0 has had 2 commits since last month and only one active developer right ?

Back to your usual one lie per "sentence":
14 commits 2015/05/26
3 commits 2015/05/10
to the protocol v3 branch.

I know I told you I would ignore you, and I will no longer waste a word on your trolling @reddit. But I won't leave your lies uncommented here for the "casual BLK thread readers".
And if you think you can wind me up with your childish mocking nicknames - dream on and/or grow up.

And seriously, i think it is time to consult a doctor. It seems as if you developed a pathological obsession with this coin.