[INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread

[BitcoinPenny]

I'm more inclined to believe that these are legit pulls from legit boxes. If someone were to go to the extreme lengths of making a very high quality forgery (of the card alone), then I'd expect them to take similar care with the autos and make them look just as authentic / high quality. The fact that the autos are so blatantly bad, suggests to me that the cards are real, but the autos, forged. Likely, a Topps employee (or team employee) was told to sign the cards in absence of the players. Whether the cards were signed this way with the knowledge and permission of both players is the question in my mind. The answer could ruin Topps as well as endanger the career of both players. Topps is screwed, regardless.

Staying tuned...

Chris@TBPCo.

[wheelz1200]

I'm more inclined to believe that these are legit pulls from legit boxes. If someone were to go to the extreme lengths of making a very high quality forgery (of the card alone), then I'd expect them to take similar care with the autos and make them look just as authentic / high quality. The fact that the autos are so blatantly bad, suggests to me that the cards are real, but the autos, forged. Likely, a Topps employee (or team employee) was told to sign the cards in absence of the players. Whether the cards were signed this way with the knowledge and permission of both players is the question in my mind. The answer could ruin Topps as well as endanger the career of both players. Topps is screwed, regardless.

Staying tuned...

Chris@TBPCo.

Could be but honestly I don't think topps would ruin decades of integrity for a randy arozerena auto fake, I mean at least make it from someone good 😅.

I'd bet 99% this is just a fake from easy or evay and not a box pull.  Unless I seen it coming straight out of a legit box I just can't see them throwing in awful forgeries.

[ChiBitCTy]

I'm suspect that they were pulled directly from a box.  There are auto forgeries all over the sport right now, with the card looking exact with the topps certified stamp and all.  Unless they are seen pulled from a topps box someone probably just trolling.  Or they generally bought them thinking they were real only to find out now they aren't. 

I see. I guess the problem with that now is we will never know. I understand these card forgeries are getting better but do you think if they were sent in to say PSA or Beckett for grading, would they catch it?

[ChiBitCTy]

[Mrstacy]

wow. they admitted to it. but, i can't see how they can just end it that easily.

[ChiBitCTy]

F up. Will delete or plz delete.

[ChiBitCTy]

I'm more inclined to believe that these are legit pulls from legit boxes. If someone were to go to the extreme lengths of making a very high quality forgery (of the card alone), then I'd expect them to take similar care with the autos and make them look just as authentic / high quality. The fact that the autos are so blatantly bad, suggests to me that the cards are real, but the autos, forged. Likely, a Topps employee (or team employee) was told to sign the cards in absence of the players. Whether the cards were signed this way with the knowledge and permission of both players is the question in my mind. The answer could ruin Topps as well as endanger the career of both players. Topps is screwed, regardless.

Staying tuned...

Chris@TBPCo.

I didn’t even see this reply, not sure how I skipped over it. That’s a really good point you make about if you’re going to go that extra time consuming mile to make fake cards, you’d copy the signature best as possible. You of course ended up being right.

wow. they admitted to it. but, i can't see how they can just end it that easily.

I agree. This is pretty bad. Makes you wonder what else nonsense is out there from them. .Fanatics not off to a great start with running a baseball card company. Just another reason for me to dislike them.

[minerjones]

Looking for these 2018 AG mini NNOs (no numbers):

7 Aaron Judge
16 Austin Hays RC
19 Yoan Moncada
23 Jordan Montgomery
43 Champ Pederson
53 Mike Zunino
57 Lindsey Vonn
58 Andrelton Simmons
59 J.D. Davis RC
60 Cal Ripken Jr.
64 Daniel Murphy
77 Adam Duvall
79 Jonathan Schoop
87 Alex Wood
153 Sloane Stephens
215 Brandon Crawford
230 Tim Beckham
247 Lance McCullers
254 Jackie Bradley Jr.
264 Reggie Jackson
271 Jose Canseco
286 Frank Thomas
310 Matt Chapman SP
316 Will Clark SP
328 Edwin Diaz SP

[Mrstacy]

Wow. been a long time, but the card has apparently bottomed out and stabilized.  A recent article mentioned this as one of the most bizarre cards ever which may have brought in more buyers.  i have below if interested.

DM me if interested in below taking payment in BTC or coin of your choice

1) PSA 10 2018 Ginter X Packs - Make Offer 1700 ask on Ebay
2) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 - 5000
3) HGA 10 PRISTINE 2018 Base - 500
4) PSA 9 2018 Cryptocurrency Ginter X Full-Sized - 2800 (tough grade on these any blemish shows right away, grab those 10s while you can)
5) PSA 10 2018 Ginter X Full-Sized - 4000 (one on ebay if want to pay in fiat.  send to ebay vault and pay no taxes until you sell it)
6) BGS 10 Pristine 2018 Mini A&G Back - 8500 (so close to black label)
7) PSA 10 2018 Gold Border Pack- Acuna on top - 850
4x lot PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 - 15000
9) 350 card set 2018 Ginter X with PSA 8 mini black Cryptocurrency - 18000 (likely won't be another complete set with 83 card going for 15k on its own)
10) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency Mini Gold Border - 8500
11) 350 card set 2018 Ginter Full-Sized Base - 350
12) 500 card Master 2018 Set Full-Sized With Inserts and Cryptocurrency - 500
13) 480 card Mini Master 2018 Set With Inserts and Cryptocurrency - 850
14) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 Poster Matching Set - 15000 (Number 10 set, lowest available)
15) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency Mini Black Border - 1500

[cygan]

i would sell here a complete collection of the following series:

Allen & Ginter 'American Indian Chiefs' A Nostalgia reprint collection
Churchman's Picture Cards 'Boxing Personalities' collection

both collections are in mint condition and sealed
if someone is interested i can send him some pictures

BTCump

these wonderful items will continue to be offered for sale

BTCump

[Spokanistan51]

Wow. been a long time, but the card has apparently bottomed out and stabilized.  A recent article mentioned this as one of the most bizarre cards ever which may have brought in more buyers.  i have below if interested.

DM me if interested in below taking payment in BTC or coin of your choice

1) PSA 10 2018 Ginter X Packs - Make Offer 1700 ask on Ebay
2) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 - 5000
3) HGA 10 PRISTINE 2018 Base - 500
4) PSA 9 2018 Cryptocurrency Ginter X Full-Sized - 2800 (tough grade on these any blemish shows right away, grab those 10s while you can)
5) PSA 10 2018 Ginter X Full-Sized - 4000 (one on ebay if want to pay in fiat.  send to ebay vault and pay no taxes until you sell it)
6) BGS 10 Pristine 2018 Mini A&G Back - 8500 (so close to black label)
7) PSA 10 2018 Gold Border Pack- Acuna on top - 850
4x lot PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 - 15000
9) 350 card set 2018 Ginter X with PSA 8 mini black Cryptocurrency - 18000 (likely won't be another complete set with 83 card going for 15k on its own)
10) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency Mini Gold Border - 8500
11) 350 card set 2018 Ginter Full-Sized Base - 350
12) 500 card Master 2018 Set Full-Sized With Inserts and Cryptocurrency - 500
13) 480 card Mini Master 2018 Set With Inserts and Cryptocurrency - 850
14) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 Poster Matching Set - 15000 (Number 10 set, lowest available)
15) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency Mini Black Border - 1500

Can you share link to article?

For those of you that have never dove into the A&G world, I found this video of the 2018 series and why it’s so valuable:

https://youtu.be/tT8mdYVCJMw

[Mrstacy]

Wow. been a long time, but the card has apparently bottomed out and stabilized.  A recent article mentioned this as one of the most bizarre cards ever which may have brought in more buyers.  i have below if interested.

DM me if interested in below taking payment in BTC or coin of your choice

1) PSA 10 2018 Ginter X Packs - Make Offer 1700 ask on Ebay
2) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 - 5000
3) HGA 10 PRISTINE 2018 Base - 500
4) PSA 9 2018 Cryptocurrency Ginter X Full-Sized - 2800 (tough grade on these any blemish shows right away, grab those 10s while you can)
5) PSA 10 2018 Ginter X Full-Sized - 4000 (one on ebay if want to pay in fiat.  send to ebay vault and pay no taxes until you sell it)
6) BGS 10 Pristine 2018 Mini A&G Back - 8500 (so close to black label)
7) PSA 10 2018 Gold Border Pack- Acuna on top - 850
4x lot PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 - 15000
9) 350 card set 2018 Ginter X with PSA 8 mini black Cryptocurrency - 18000 (likely won't be another complete set with 83 card going for 15k on its own)
10) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency Mini Gold Border - 8500
11) 350 card set 2018 Ginter Full-Sized Base - 350
12) 500 card Master 2018 Set Full-Sized With Inserts and Cryptocurrency - 500
13) 480 card Mini Master 2018 Set With Inserts and Cryptocurrency - 850
14) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency D/49 5X7 Poster Matching Set - 15000 (Number 10 set, lowest available)
15) PSA 10 2018 Cryptocurrency Mini Black Border - 1500

Can you share link to article?

For those of you that have never dove into the A&G world, I found this video of the 2018 series and why it’s so valuable:

https://youtu.be/tT8mdYVCJMw

https://www.beckett.com/news/13-of-the-weirdest-topps-allen-ginter-cards-ever/

[StorageCold]

Anyone still actively interested in collecting this card? I've got a couple different variations, but seems like the crypto winter
has killed a lot of activity.

[minerjones]

Anyone still actively interested in collecting this card? I've got a couple different variations, but seems like the crypto winter
has killed a lot of activity.

Yes, still decent price activity/sales if you check ebay

[Mrstacy]

Anyone still actively interested in collecting this card? I've got a couple different variations, but seems like the crypto winter
has killed a lot of activity.

Things are actually up from bottom.  But cryptocurrency winter and fiat inflation has folks seeking cash.

[Spokanistan51]

A fresh arrival of graded A&G cards. Open to offers for sale/trade for loaded/peeled/cards/BTC/USD etc.

https://imgur.com/a/BKOvcTp

[Mrstacy]

A fresh arrival of graded A&G cards. Open to offers for sale/trade for loaded/peeled/cards/BTC/USD etc.

https://imgur.com/a/BKOvcTp

Somewhere I have a PSA 3 graded card. May be the lowest unintended grade ever. I can't let it go

[bs241]

A fresh arrival of graded A&G cards. Open to offers for sale/trade for loaded/peeled/cards/BTC/USD etc.

https://imgur.com/a/BKOvcTp

Waiting on the sliver glossy and mini black border I bought off you years ago to come back from grading too!

[Spokanistan51]

Hey, great to see you on here! Yes, grading with substantially impact value and add protection. These cards will continue to ride the wave with the price of Bitcoin.

A fresh arrival of graded A&G cards. Open to offers for sale/trade for loaded/peeled/cards/BTC/USD etc.

https://imgur.com/a/BKOvcTp

Waiting on the sliver glossy and mini black border I bought off you years ago to come back from grading too!

[Mrstacy]

Cards found a bottom around 125 for a psa 10 base. 750 for silver glossy.  Smart money buying below those points. with btc up, some folks getting back in.