[INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread

[frankbitcoin]

Guys.

I'd really hold onto your PSA 10's.


The value of them is going to skyrocket.  I think PSA 9's are going to rocket as well.

I just got my grading completed on 50 cards I sent in back in September (not crypto-related). 

They are not handing out 10's as often as they used to.  These cards I sent were pack fresh, immediately sleeved into a soft plastic and then hard plastic sleeve.  Shipped with cardboard surrounding for protection.

Out of 50 cards, I got THREE PSA 10's and SIX PSA 9's.  Everything else was graded 8 and 7.  Doesn't make much sense to me.  Perhaps they are rushing through the grading process due to their backlog and maybe this will change in the future.  But I think the 10's are going to be highly sought after if grading continues down this route.

[frankbitcoin]

All just in my opinion but, I was thinking of what would be in the ultimate collection of the #83 and I came up with the following

A regular common PSA 10 including a PSA 10 mini regular back and PSA 10 a&g back
A gold border and black border PSA 10
A silver glossy PSA 10
A brooklyn back PSA 10
A no # PSA 10
A glowie PSA 10
A must have to top this of is the regular or mini 1/1 glossy which only come in PSA 9. none higher

From the x-box a regular PSA 10  a mini PSA 10 and one of the red mini PSA 9, none higher
The silver mini would be the ultimate but, isn't around.

Any 5x7 PSA 10's or blank backs would add some nice touches to the collection. 

This is the ultimate collection without the printing plates.

There are beautiful packs you can add like the 3-card #83 cello pack and PSA 10 regular and X packs. 

The dolphin just thinking out loud

I had a PSA 10 glowie 83.  Sold it to someone here on the forum in private chat a few years ago.  If they want to come forward they can.  If pop report is correct, I believe mine was the only one ever submitted.

[Mrstacy]

Guys.

I'd really hold onto your PSA 10's.


The value of them is going to skyrocket.  I think PSA 9's are going to rocket as well.

I just got my grading completed on 50 cards I sent in back in September (not crypto-related). 

They are not handing out 10's as often as they used to.  These cards I sent were pack fresh, immediately sleeved into a soft plastic and then hard plastic sleeve.  Shipped with cardboard surrounding for protection.

Out of 50 cards, I got THREE PSA 10's and SIX PSA 9's.  Everything else was graded 8 and 7.  Doesn't make much sense to me.  Perhaps they are rushing through the grading process due to their backlog and maybe this will change in the future.  But I think the 10's are going to be highly sought after if grading continues down this route.

Good information.  Thanks for this.

Best to not take low ball offers until we see how the pop reports goes.  The 83 Cryptocurrency is well centered which  is critical in getting a 10.  If other cards you submitted were not centered, the care you took was for naught.

One way to tell is to go to bgs to see the sub scores which include centering.

[Mrstacy]

All just in my opinion but, I was thinking of what would be in the ultimate collection of the #83 and I came up with the following

A regular common PSA 10 including a PSA 10 mini regular back and PSA 10 a&g back
A gold border and black border PSA 10
A silver glossy PSA 10
A brooklyn back PSA 10
A no # PSA 10
A glowie PSA 10
A must have to top this of is the regular or mini 1/1 glossy which only come in PSA 9. none higher

From the x-box a regular PSA 10  a mini PSA 10 and one of the red mini PSA 9, none higher
The silver mini would be the ultimate but, isn't around.

Any 5x7 PSA 10's or blank backs would add some nice touches to the collection. 

This is the ultimate collection without the printing plates.

There are beautiful packs you can add like the 3-card #83 cello pack and PSA 10 regular and X packs. 

The dolphin just thinking out loud

I had a PSA 10 glowie 83.  Sold it to someone here on the forum in private chat a few years ago.  If they want to come forward they can.  If pop report is correct, I believe mine was the only one ever submitted.

There is a member that has one in hand that they submitted,.  Only 8 made or so. And glowies have left the building  - discontinued in 2019. These will have lasting value 

[c4c4c4]

Notable sale

PSA 9 Red Mini Ginter x #d/5 - sold between 70.1k -79.9k - February 22, 2021.

Congratulations to both the seller and new owner

where did u get this info? this card + crypto poster /99 sold for 28k

[dolphriends]

Agree PSA 10's are going to be sought after and will be few out there

[Mrstacy]

Notable sale

PSA 9 Red Mini Ginter x #d/5 - sold between 70.1k -79.9k - February 22, 2021.

Congratulations to both the seller and new owner

where did u get this info? this card + crypto poster /99 sold for 28k

i usually go to ebay sales history and sort from high to low something like this.

https://imgur.com/a/XAmZaGv

[Mrstacy]

Agree PSA 10's are going to be sought after and will be few out there

Agree. PSA put out a cryptic ad suggesting that they would use more of the grading scale and how 9s and below should be just as cherished as 10s. i didn't save it, but this way, PSA 10s can get major returns whereas now 10s are quite plentiful.

i wish PSA had sub-grades like BGS and labeling similar to BGS' black label.  10s have been diluted with so many being given.  A BGS black label will always go for more than a PSA 10.  i think everyone will agree.  Am i wrong?

[dolphriends]

Agree PSA 10's are going to be sought after and will be few out there

Agree. PSA put out a cryptic ad suggesting that they would use more of the grading scale and how 9s and below should be just as cherished as 10s. i didn't save it, but this way, PSA 10s can get major returns whereas now 10s are quite plentiful.

i wish PSA had sub-grades like BGS and labeling similar to BGS' black label.  10s have been diluted with so many being given.  A BGS black label will always go for more than a PSA 10.  i think everyone will agree.  Am i wrong?

I don't see any gold border PSA 10"s for sale anymore.  The last one I think sold for around 3 to 4k and now there are none even for sale.  I would imagine the next one will go in the 7 to 8k range if it's a PSA 10.  The black label beckett is in a class of its own, it is above gem mint, but it might be equal to a current grade of PSA 10 if PSA has tightened it's standards.  Psa should make a PSA 10 pure red for a gem mint + type rating.

[Eclipse33]

I noticed the black graded #83 has gone about 3x in the past 30 days.

graded 9s are selling for anywhere from 1500-2000

I would anticipate this price to increase to the 10,000 range in due coarse with the halt on PSA grading.

-eclipse

[Mrstacy]

I noticed the black graded #83 has gone about 3x in the past 30 days.

graded 9s are selling for anywhere from 1500-2000

I would anticipate this price to increase to the 10,000 range in due coarse with the halt on PSA grading.

-eclipse

Those all-black,  full-sized x 10s are very special
  There is a lot of real estate to have a flaw which should br apparent due to contrasting colors.

Add to that the fact psa 10 x packs selling for 800+

Psa 9s are relatively a bargain
 

[c4c4c4]

Notable sale

PSA 9 Red Mini Ginter x #d/5 - sold between 70.1k -79.9k - February 22, 2021.

Congratulations to both the seller and new owner

where did u get this info? this card + crypto poster /99 sold for 28k

i usually go to ebay sales history and sort from high to low something like this.

https://imgur.com/a/XAmZaGv

yeah that sale went for 28k if the price is crossed out that means they accepted a "best offer"

https://www.slabwatch.com/itm/2018-Topps-Allen-Ginter-X-red-mini-83-Crypto-Poster-99-99-Last-One-Made/114688881799

u saying it sold for 70-79k is hella misleading and feels way too pumpy...

[dolphriends]

I noticed the black graded #83 has gone about 3x in the past 30 days.

graded 9s are selling for anywhere from 1500-2000

I would anticipate this price to increase to the 10,000 range in due coarse with the halt on PSA grading.

-eclipse

Those all-black,  full-sized x 10s are very special
  There is a lot of real estate to have a flaw which should br apparent due to contrasting colors.

Add to that the fact psa 10 x packs selling for 800+

Psa 9s are relatively a bargain
 

I agree the 9's are a bargain as they are a mint card.  The 10 is so costly now to even get one.  It will cost 300.00 to have a card graded and a chance at a 10. 

[Mrstacy]

Notable sale

PSA 9 Red Mini Ginter x #d/5 - sold between 70.1k -79.9k - February 22, 2021.

Congratulations to both the seller and new owner

where did u get this info? this card + crypto poster /99 sold for 28k

i usually go to ebay sales history and sort from high to low something like this.

https://imgur.com/a/XAmZaGv

yeah that sale went for 28k if the price is crossed out that means they accepted a "best offer"

https://www.slabwatch.com/itm/2018-Topps-Allen-Ginter-X-red-mini-83-Crypto-Poster-99-99-Last-One-Made/114688881799

u saying it sold for 70-79k is hella misleading and feels way too pumpy...

Wow. First time i heard of that site. Ill test it against my sales and then revise how i get my numbers

[Mrstacy]

Notable sale

PSA 9 Red Mini Ginter x #d/5 - sold between 70.1k -79.9k - February 22, 2021.

Congratulations to both the seller and new owner

where did u get this info? this card + crypto poster /99 sold for 28k

i usually go to ebay sales history and sort from high to low something like this.

https://imgur.com/a/XAmZaGv

yeah that sale went for 28k if the price is crossed out that means they accepted a "best offer"

https://www.slabwatch.com/itm/2018-Topps-Allen-Ginter-X-red-mini-83-Crypto-Poster-99-99-Last-One-Made/114688881799

u saying it sold for 70-79k is hella misleading and feels way too pumpy...

Wow. First time i heard of that site. Ill test it against my sales and then revise how i get my numbers

Slabwatch is off. So im not sure what to trust.  This item did not sell for 2400

https://www.slabwatch.com/265021256586

[Hox]

Slabwatch is off. So im not sure what to trust.  This item did not sell for 2400

https://www.slabwatch.com/265021256586

I haven't heard if slab watch before but you can find what the accepted offer was using this method https://certifiedcomic.shop/blog/find-ebay-best-offer-selling-price/

I assume slab watch does the same thing just automated. But if the “see original listing” page isn't available it won't work.

[Mrstacy]

Slabwatch is off. So im not sure what to trust.  This item did not sell for 2400

https://www.slabwatch.com/265021256586

I haven't heard if slab watch before but you can find what the accepted offer was using this method https://certifiedcomic.shop/blog/find-ebay-best-offer-selling-price/

I assume slab watch does the same thing just automated. But if the “see original listing” page isn't available it won't work.

Thanks.  I'll try this out

[ChiBitCTy]

Was anyone in here able to grab one of the printing plate cards? Was just kinda curious. I am mad at myself for missing out on that. I think there was like 2-4 right made right? I remember seeing one that sold in my hometown of Springfield IL and if I remember correctly it’s sale price was not very high. I want to say maybe $250 or so. I know you guys probably know all this info.

[dolphriends]

Was anyone in here able to grab one of the printing plate cards? Was just kinda curious. I am mad at myself for missing out on that. I think there was like 2-4 right made right? I remember seeing one that sold in my hometown of Springfield IL and if I remember correctly it’s sale price was not very high. I want to say maybe $250 or so. I know you guys probably know all this info.

I had the cyan plate I think for around 35.00.  I did not interfer with the bidding on the black or magenta plate as I wanted them to go to those particular bidders.  The yellow was found on its own by the bidder of the black plate.  I wanted to share with everyone when these cards first came out and gave many to my friends like brooklyns , no #'s etc.  They are only enjoyable  to me if others have them also and can enjoy them.    The plates are all together where they should be now, with a very good person.

[dolphriends]

If I had to do it all over again I wouldn't change a thing, regardless of what I could have made money wise.  For everyone who collected them and kept them, congratz and to those that sold some and made a killing congratz, the 2018 A&G #83 turned out to be one of my special moments here on the forum and I thank everyone for sharing and enjoying the experience along with me.  I still had a few PSA 10's from a close special friend that I passed down to my son.  Keep up the hunt because that silver mini is still out there, so are some red and black mini's.  Glow's brooklyn's and no #'s too.   

The dolphin