[INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread

[Mrstacy]

PSA 10's are the name of the game at the moment.  Just my opinion but, I think the "10" is going to be difficult to get going forward unless the card is virtually flawless.  This would be equal to the Beckett black label 10, all subsets are graded a 10.  Just my humble opinion for now.
I think a black border or gold border psa 10 is going to be the hot items for awhile.

+1 on gold and black borders.  These are quite hard to find in the wild, but that is not being taken into account as much as it should.  black borders have about the same rarity as ginter x full-size and gold borders maybe slightly less so (afterall, a value pack will have 3 gold borders by design, so buying 120 packs almost guarantees one)

The no numbers have yet to have their day.  i haven't seen one either loose or graded in many months.  It could be someone has one but failed to distinguish it from a regular A&G back? 

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[dolphriends]

PSA 10's are the name of the game at the moment.  Just my opinion but, I think the "10" is going to be difficult to get going forward unless the card is virtually flawless.  This would be equal to the Beckett black label 10, all subsets are graded a 10.  Just my humble opinion for now.
I think a black border or gold border psa 10 is going to be the hot items for awhile.

+1 on gold and black borders.  These are quite hard to find in the wild, but that is not being taken into account as much as it should.  black borders have about the same rarity as ginter x full-size and gold borders maybe slightly less so (afterall, a value pack will have 3 gold borders by design, so buying 120 packs almost guarantees one)

The no numbers have yet to have their day.  i haven't seen one either loose or graded in many months.  It could be someone has one but failed to distinguish it from a regular A&G back? 

The no# unlike the ginter x mini was specified by Topps as having only 50 printed.  We have had to make an educational guess as to the actual numbers that were minted in the ginter x run but, we know they are quite limited and the chances of PSA 10 we know how that is.  I believe if the ginter x silver is ever found and it graded at PSA 10 it would be very close in value to the rainbow set of printing plates.  I feel the right buyer has to come along but, I would value the plates at a cool million today.

[Fattcatt]

What is the pop report for the Nno's? That way we have a better idea of what's out there. I get stoked whenever I get a 10 from any of these cards, being mindful of how flimsy they are compared to other sports card sets. And I'd agree with Dolph, the Glowie pop is only 3 and all are 10's.....currently worth at least as much as that red mini 9 that just sold to someone, if not more. Fewer known to exist.

What needs to be said is: Collecting cards, from whatever venue, has a VERY bright future moving forward. Did the pandemic propel us in this direction....maybe, but-- Collectors will always want the Best of the Best cards out there, and will chase them a lifetime, to hand them down, turn a profit, bragging rights...... whatever. THESE cards haven't even learned to walk yet, but when they do...there'll be a price explosion & they'll  take their rightful place in history. I can see the Cryptocurrency Rookie cards appealing to a variety of collectors...to me, that just makes them all the more desirable to obtain.


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[dolphriends]

If I were strictly a seller and not a collector I would want to have gold and black border mini's all PSA 10.  Also the ginter x mini's either PSA 8 or PSA 9 would also be a good seller.  The market just isn't quite there for the higher end limited PSA 10's yet.  Also some no #'s PSA 9's would be good.  Anyway that is my opinion strictly if I were a seller.   

[Fattcatt]

And, what would you ask for a Nno 9?     Personally, I might hold onto that card a bit longer....

[dolphriends]

And, what would you ask for a Nno 9? 

Topps has stated there are a total of 50 of them, I would price them around 3900.00 to 4600.00 for the psa 9 and 2800 for the psa 8.  PSA 10 would be above 5 figures and the market isn't quite there.

[Fattcatt]

well, I only know of 4 or 5 Nno's......does anyone have a pop report on these? 

[Mrstacy]

well, I only know of 4 or 5 Nno's......does anyone have a pop report on these? 

Oh. Dolphriends mentioned topps not psa so you both are correct. Topps made 50 but 4 or 5 submitted to PSA for grading

[dolphriends]

Looks like Mr. Stacy is correct as far as the tightening of grades coming from PSA.  It will be very hard to get PSA 10's as expect the card to be flawless in all categories of centering, corners, sides and smoothness.  Also, the least expensive service is 100.00 and expect a long wait time.  From experience I would recommend the 300.00 service super rush but, still expect up to 3 weeks as it takes time before the cards are entered into the system.  There is no guarantee, grades cannot be challenged only incorrect labels.  If you have any PSA 10's my opinion is they are bigtime gold and prices will rocket on these.

The Dolphin

[frankbitcoin]

Looks like Mr. Stacy is correct as far as the tightening of grades coming from PSA.  It will be very hard to get PSA 10's as expect the card to be flawless in all categories of centering, corners, sides and smoothness.  Also, the least expensive service is 100.00 and expect a long wait time.  From experience I would recommend the 300.00 service super rush but, still expect up to 3 weeks as it takes time before the cards are entered into the system.  There is no guarantee, grades cannot be challenged only incorrect labels.  If you have any PSA 10's my opinion is they are bigtime gold and prices will rocket on these.

The Dolphin

I did a few 'Express' orders on 2/12 (ship date) and received them back on Friday, so about 5 weeks.  Not too shabby.  I believe it was $75ish per card.  Unfortunately my cards got 9's

[dolphriends]

Looks like Mr. Stacy is correct as far as the tightening of grades coming from PSA.  It will be very hard to get PSA 10's as expect the card to be flawless in all categories of centering, corners, sides and smoothness.  Also, the least expensive service is 100.00 and expect a long wait time.  From experience I would recommend the 300.00 service super rush but, still expect up to 3 weeks as it takes time before the cards are entered into the system.  There is no guarantee, grades cannot be challenged only incorrect labels.  If you have any PSA 10's my opinion is they are bigtime gold and prices will rocket on these.

The Dolphin

I did a few 'Express' orders on 2/12 (ship date) and received them back on Friday, so about 5 weeks.  Not too shabby.  I believe it was $75ish per card.  Unfortunately my cards got 9's

Their rates went up bigtime on March 1st, 2021.   You got in just under the new pricing and timeline. 

[Fattcatt]

PSA can & will send you an email, or call you if they UPGRADE your bill. My card shop told me that they've had it happen to them many times. So, if you think that your bill is going to remain what you think it is....if it gets a 10, or is a high dollar card...don't be surprised if you get a notice of an up-charge.                     Welcome to the Big Leagues Gentlemen 

[dolphriends]

PSA can & will send you an email, or call you if they UPGRADE your bill. My card shop told me that they've had it happen to them many times. So, if you think that your bill is going to remain what you think it is....if it gets a 10, or is a high dollar card...don't be surprised if you get a notice of an up-charge.                     Welcome to the Big Leagues Gentlemen 

You are correct, the bill comes about 7 business days after you received the cards even though you have paid upon shipment.   I know their are handling fees for packs that are in addition to the pricing but, I don't know the current rate.

[Fattcatt]

I think that PSA is going to be on top of the card prices moving forward, including all variations of this card.  I think I have some more shocks coming my way yet too, but the bulk has had their judgement day.   

[Mrstacy]

Here is the pop report as of March 23 2021

Card                                                                              4   5   6   7   8   9   10   Totl
Cryptocurrency X Full-Sized                                         0        1    0   1   16   64   24  106
Cryptocurrency X Black Mini                                             0   0   0   2   8   23   1   34
Cryptocurrency X Red Mini                                                 0   0   0   0   0   2   0   2
Cryptocurrency Glossy 1/1                                                  0   0   0   0   0   1   0   1
Cryptocurrency Jumbo 5x7 Gold                                          0   0   1   1   0   0   6   8
Cryptocurrency Jumbo 5x7 Color                                          0   0   2   1   1   0   37   41
Cryptocurrency Mini-A & G Back                                         0        0   0   1   0   6   59   66
Cryptocurrency Mini-Black                                                 0   1   0   0   0   3   58   62
Cryptocurrency Mini-Brooklyn Back                                0   0   0   0   0   0   6   6
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Black Print Plate 1/1                 0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Cyan Print Plate 1/1                 0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Magenta Print Plate 1/1          0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Yellow Print Plate 1/1         0    0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Glossy 1/1                                         0   0   0   0   0   1   0   1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Glow in the Dark                                   0   0   0   0   0   0   3   3
Cryptocurrency Mini-Gold                                                 0   0   1   1   1   4   30   38
Cryptocurrency Mini                                                         0   0   0   2   0   20   81   103
Cryptocurrency                                                                  0   0   1   1   15   88   275   380
Silver Glossy                                                                   0   0   0   0   0   –   –   0
Cryptocurrency No Number                                                 0   0   0   1   1   5   6   13

[Mrstacy]

Double posr edit

[dolphriends]

Double posr edit

I see a score of psa 2 when you go to the 2018 allen and ginter psa population.  You don't show that.

[Mrstacy]

Double posr edit

I see a score of psa 2 when you go to the 2018 allen and ginter psa population.  You don't show that.

yes. that card must be beat up for sure. i started scale where it shows. took some time to get in that format.  maybe i'll just do pictures next time.

[dolphriends]

PSA can & will send you an email, or call you if they UPGRADE your bill. My card shop told me that they've had it happen to them many times. So, if you think that your bill is going to remain what you think it is....if it gets a 10, or is a high dollar card...don't be surprised if you get a notice of an up-charge.                     Welcome to the Big Leagues Gentlemen 

The up charge depending on how many cards received a psa 10 can run up quite a lot so put aside extra funds for this if you expect you will be receiving PSA 10's.

[Fattcatt]

*singing the "Upcharge" song .....(set to the tune of "Carwash")

Lemme tell ya it's bettah than diggin' a ditch, gonna get Up Charged Yeah! Come on now and sing it with me, Up Charge Yeah!  


*Thank you for the population report,