[INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread

[dolphriends]

Looks like #83 has cooled a bit.  When bitcoin takes off again I believe we will see a surge in prices for these cards.  This is the perfect time to have your cards graded during this lull period.   

It's not the #83 it's the whole market.  Sports cards definitely peaked early this year and have all come down significantly.  Even though it's not "sports" the crypto card will also move as the sports card industry moves.

I think the #83 is however more closely tied to the price of bitcoin than it is to the sportscard industry. 

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[wheelz1200]

Looks like #83 has cooled a bit.  When bitcoin takes off again I believe we will see a surge in prices for these cards.  This is the perfect time to have your cards graded during this lull period.   

It's not the #83 it's the whole market.  Sports cards definitely peaked early this year and have all come down significantly.  Even though it's not "sports" the crypto card will also move as the sports card industry moves.

I think the #83 is however more closely tied to the price of bitcoin than it is to the sportscard industry. 

I don't know Dolph.  There is no direction connection to price like load value or anything.  If you track the price rise and fall it coincided with the entire sports card craze.  Not saying there isn't different collectors of the crypto card but the rise and fall have been the same.

[dolphriends]

Looks like #83 has cooled a bit.  When bitcoin takes off again I believe we will see a surge in prices for these cards.  This is the perfect time to have your cards graded during this lull period.   

It's not the #83 it's the whole market.  Sports cards definitely peaked early this year and have all come down significantly.  Even though it's not "sports" the crypto card will also move as the sports card industry moves.

I think the #83 is however more closely tied to the price of bitcoin than it is to the sportscard industry. 

I don't know Dolph.  There is no direction connection to price like load value or anything.  If you track the price rise and fall it coincided with the entire sports card craze.  Not saying there isn't different collectors of the crypto card but the rise and fall have been the same.

Well maybe a little of both

[dolphriends]

I do think it is a great time to have your #83 cards graded.  Any #83 ginter x, silver glossy's, or any numbered cards.  I doubt I would grade and regular common or mini's..  300.00 is a little much to pay for grading for the commons. 

[wheelz1200]

I do think it is a great time to have your #83 cards graded.  Any #83 ginter x, silver glossy's, or any numbered cards.  I doubt I would grade and regular common or mini's..  300.00 is a little much to pay for grading for the commons. 

Yep I'm just waiting for psa to catch up, not worth a "quick" turn for $300 that's robbery.  Will wait for the value and economy options come back online.  They are catching up the backlog fairly rapidly now.  I imagine there is a ton a more graders working than we're in 2020.  Wonder how it's gonna effect the quality of the grading.

[dolphriends]

I do think it is a great time to have your #83 cards graded.  Any #83 ginter x, silver glossy's, or any numbered cards.  I doubt I would grade and regular common or mini's..  300.00 is a little much to pay for grading for the commons. 

Yep I'm just waiting for psa to catch up, not worth a "quick" turn for $300 that's robbery.  Will wait for the value and economy options come back online.  They are catching up the backlog fairly rapidly now.  I imagine there is a ton a more graders working than we're in 2020.  Wonder how it's gonna effect the quality of the grading.

I wonder if economy prices will ever come back. 

[wheelz1200]

I do think it is a great time to have your #83 cards graded.  Any #83 ginter x, silver glossy's, or any numbered cards.  I doubt I would grade and regular common or mini's..  300.00 is a little much to pay for grading for the commons. 

Yep I'm just waiting for psa to catch up, not worth a "quick" turn for $300 that's robbery.  Will wait for the value and economy options come back online.  They are catching up the backlog fairly rapidly now.  I imagine there is a ton a more graders working than we're in 2020.  Wonder how it's gonna effect the quality of the grading.

I wonder if economy prices will ever come back. 

They will no one will grade a card worth under $500 ever again beckett will take all of their business.  They will 100% be back.  I imagine a good portion of their business is value and economy. 

[dolphriends]

I do think it is a great time to have your #83 cards graded.  Any #83 ginter x, silver glossy's, or any numbered cards.  I doubt I would grade and regular common or mini's..  300.00 is a little much to pay for grading for the commons. 

Yep I'm just waiting for psa to catch up, not worth a "quick" turn for $300 that's robbery.  Will wait for the value and economy options come back online.  They are catching up the backlog fairly rapidly now.  I imagine there is a ton a more graders working than we're in 2020.  Wonder how it's gonna effect the quality of the grading.

I wonder if economy prices will ever come back. 

They will no one will grade a card worth under $500 ever again beckett will take all of their business.  They will 100% be back.  I imagine a good portion of their business is value and economy. 

Beckett raised their minimum grading cost to 250.00, yuk.

[wheelz1200]

I do think it is a great time to have your #83 cards graded.  Any #83 ginter x, silver glossy's, or any numbered cards.  I doubt I would grade and regular common or mini's..  300.00 is a little much to pay for grading for the commons. 

Yep I'm just waiting for psa to catch up, not worth a "quick" turn for $300 that's robbery.  Will wait for the value and economy options come back online.  They are catching up the backlog fairly rapidly now.  I imagine there is a ton a more graders working than we're in 2020.  Wonder how it's gonna effect the quality of the grading.

I wonder if economy prices will ever come back. 

They will no one will grade a card worth under $500 ever again beckett will take all of their business.  They will 100% be back.  I imagine a good portion of their business is value and economy. 

Beckett raised their minimum grading cost to 250.00, yuk.

Beckett and psa will get a dose of market cool off.  Trust me the $20 grading will be back shortly.  As card prices continue to fall so will be the urgency to grade especially at insane prices.  Grading is mostly for flippers, it needs to make cost sense for people to grade and right now it's not unless you are sitting on diamond cards.

[Mrstacy]

Notable sale

PSA 10 Gold Border Pack Cryptocurrency on top - 7/13/2021 - $4,000

[Mrstacy]

Ohtani Watch:

PSA 10 Base Cards selling for 225 or so
PSA 10 Mini A&G Backs 325

so, if you have sealed packs and weigh them for a possible auto, you are in luck

a rare Ohtani auto sold for 1.2 million or so.

[Mrstacy]

WTS Rare PSA 10 Cryptocurrency on Top cello pack for $5k in BTC.  DM me if interested.

Also have PSA 10 of all the regular cards up to black border and jumbo 5x7 #d/49 as well as PSA 10 ginter x packs.  (i'll keep the heavy one) 

[Spokanistan51]

WTS Rare PSA 10 Cryptocurrency on Top cello pack for $5k in BTC.  DM me if interested.

Also have PSA 10 of all the regular cards up to black border and jumbo 5x7 #d/49 as well as PSA 10 ginter x packs.  (i'll keep the heavy one) 

Do tell, what weights are telling of an auto for the packs?

[Mrstacy]

WTS Rare PSA 10 Cryptocurrency on Top cello pack for $5k in BTC.  DM me if interested.

Also have PSA 10 of all the regular cards up to black border and jumbo 5x7 #d/49 as well as PSA 10 ginter x packs.  (i'll keep the heavy one) 

Do tell, what weights are telling of an auto for the packs?

i'll weigh them again. i noticed a heavy one pre-grading.  So, i have to weigh again.

[Mrstacy]

WTS Rare PSA 10 Cryptocurrency on Top cello pack for $5k in BTC.  DM me if interested.

Also have PSA 10 of all the regular cards up to black border and jumbo 5x7 #d/49 as well as PSA 10 ginter x packs.  (i'll keep the heavy one)  

Do tell, what weights are telling of an auto for the packs?

i'll weigh them again. i noticed a heavy one pre-grading.  So, i have to weigh again.

i'm thinking PSA used different slabs for "older" ones as the top and bottom edges are folded on old slaps and extended on these.  bigger slab i think so weight may not be comparable.

[Mrstacy]

WTS Rare PSA 10 Cryptocurrency on Top cello pack for $5k in BTC.  DM me if interested.

Also have PSA 10 of all the regular cards up to black border and jumbo 5x7 #d/49 as well as PSA 10 ginter x packs.  (i'll keep the heavy one) 

Do tell, what weights are telling of an auto for the packs?

I get most graded packs 170 grams. One 175 grams. i weighed an auto card alone. It was 5 gra

[Spokanistan51]

WTS Rare PSA 10 Cryptocurrency on Top cello pack for $5k in BTC.  DM me if interested.

Also have PSA 10 of all the regular cards up to black border and jumbo 5x7 #d/49 as well as PSA 10 ginter x packs.  (i'll keep the heavy one) 

Do tell, what weights are telling of an auto for the packs?

I get most graded packs 170 grams. One 175 grams. i weighed an auto card alone. It was 5 gra

Great information! Mine are all 170....dang!

[Mrstacy]

Notable sale

PSA 9 2018 Cryptocurrency 83 No Number - July 2021 - $2,000

https://www.slabwatch.com/304064026860

[Mrstacy]

Notable Sale:

PSA 10 Topps 2018 Cryptocurrency Mini - 7/21/2021 - 600

https://www.slabwatch.com/304052366028

Things have slowed a bit, but the interest is still there.  5 or 6 cards sold each day.

[jackbauercsgo]

If anyone has boxes/packs unopened, please let me know - I’m looking to buy a couple of each type