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December 05, 2015, 01:58:29 PM
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Somewhat old news:

Ukraine Blows Up Power Lines, Leaving Crimea Without Electricity
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/11/23/urgent-ukraine-blows-up-power-lines-leaving-crimea-without-electricity/

By the way, Turkish Grey Wolves, who also killed the Russian pilot, were involved in the above sabotage.

And the latest news:

Good and Bad News: New Power Bridge Links Crimea to Russian Power Grid Ending Blockade; Terror Act Warning
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/12/04/good-and-bad-news-new-power-bridge-links-crimea-to-russian-power-grid-ending-blockade-terrorist-act-warning/

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December 05, 2015, 03:25:08 PM
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The stupid Ukrainians are committing hara-kiri.

They are imposing stupid sanctions on Russia, not realizing that these sanctions will affect them much more than the Russians. Who is going to benefit from cutting off water and power to Crimea? The Russians will bring in electricity from the mainland in no time, and the Ukrainians will lose a significant part of their non-tax revenue.
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December 06, 2015, 04:59:18 PM
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Those stupid neonazis who blown electric lines will only make crimeans hate them more. Are they going to return crimea to ukraine this way? LOL.

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December 06, 2015, 05:26:51 PM
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Those stupid neonazis who blown electric lines will only make crimeans hate them more. Are they going to return crimea to ukraine this way? LOL.

Well... even the neo-Nazis know that the peninsula is lost for ever. Now the only option left for them is to "punish" the Crimeans for their decision to go back to Russia. First they cutoff the water supply, which caused enormous hardship to the local farmers. Then they tried the "food embargo", which failed due to increased supplies from Krasnodar. Now they are trying the "electricity" embargo, and it is all set to fail. Stupid nazis.
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December 06, 2015, 07:04:08 PM
Last edit: December 07, 2015, 12:55:43 PM by Nemo1024
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Now they are trying the "electricity" embargo, and it is all set to fail. Stupid nazis.

It's already failed. The first stage of the power bridge over Kerch Strait is now complete ahead of schedule, delivering a quarter of its projected capacity. The remaining power is supplied by local power plants in Crimea. Crimeans were subject to 3 weeks of power shortages, thanks to Ukro-nazis and their friends from Turkey and US-financed Tatar renegades.



Great CGI animation of the construction highlights and characteristics of the coming car and railway bridge over Kerch Strait:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_O-jvZslt8

Captions in the video:

Year 2015. A bridge must connect Crimea with the continental Russia.
Year 1984. BAM (Baikal-Amur Railway) connected Eastern Siberia with the Far East
Today, only 4 million people per year cross the Kerch Strait
Millions of people are awaiting this bridge.
Our grandfathers built BAM.
We will build the bridge.
2 railway tracks
- 47 pairs of trains per day
- 14 million passengers per year
- 13 million tonnes goods per year
Total span - 19km
Bridge built from 8 points
Height 35 meters
Span of the ship-fairing arch - 227 meters
4 car lanes
 - up to 40000 cars per day
 - projected speed up to 120km/h
#ждeммocт (Twitter hashtag meaning "waiting for the bridge")

https://twitter.com/hashtag/%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82

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December 07, 2015, 02:27:04 AM
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Thanks for this,  very great resource.  I always tali to people about crimea and the actions of Russia bit too many of my friends are distracted by the shootings and Isis coverage,  which is exactly what they want. 

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December 07, 2015, 01:59:05 PM
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You are welcome.

In this regards, to understand Crimeans, it is good to turn to the classics, and specifically to Leo Tolstoy's "Sevastopol Sketches"

http://www.online-literature.com/view.php/sevastopol-sketches/1

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Only now have the tales of the early days of the siege of Sevastopol, when there were no fortifications there, no army, no physical possibility of holding it, and when at the same time there was not the slightest doubt that it would not surrender to the enemy,—of the days when that hero worthy of ancient Greece, Korniloff, said, as he reviewed the army: “We will die, children, but we will not surrender Sevastopol;” and our Russians, who are not fitted to be phrase-makers, replied: “We will die! hurrah!”—only now have tales of that time ceased to be for you the most beautiful historical legends, and have become real facts and worthy of belief. You comprehend clearly, you figure to yourself, those men whom you have just seen, as the very heroes of those grievous times, who have not fallen, but have been raised by the spirit, and have joyfully prepared for death, not for the sake of the city, but of the country. This epos of Sevastopol, whose hero was the Russian people, will leave mighty traces in Russia for a long time to come.
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Incidentally, the locals call the period under Ukraine between 1991 and 2014 for the third siege of Sevastopol, the first being in 1854-55 by British/French/Turkish forces, and the second in 1941-42 by the Nazi German/Romanian forces

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December 07, 2015, 02:12:54 PM
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Yeah, I can understand that 19th century Russians would defend the city of Catherine especially fiercely. And I doubt that this had changed later during the Soviet era.

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December 07, 2015, 05:23:44 PM
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Great CGI animation of the construction highlights and characteristics of the coming car and railway bridge over Kerch Strait:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_O-jvZslt8

Really good video there. Many thanks for posting it. But according to the latest reports from Russia, the bridge won't be operational until early 2019, with the trial run planned by the end of 2018. That is almost 4 years away. Until then, the Crimean residents will be facing a lot of hardship, as the ferry service is not always reliable.
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December 07, 2015, 09:52:10 PM
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Those stupid neonazis

How do You call a Jew Government of Ukraine?

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December 07, 2015, 10:45:29 PM
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Great CGI animation of the construction highlights and characteristics of the coming car and railway bridge over Kerch Strait:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_O-jvZslt8

Really good video there. Many thanks for posting it. But according to the latest reports from Russia, the bridge won't be operational until early 2019, with the trial run planned by the end of 2018. That is almost 4 years away. Until then, the Crimean residents will be facing a lot of hardship, as the ferry service is not always reliable.

Looks like you are correct. 18th of December 2018.
http://www.kvartiri-feodosii.ru/info/FotoobzorNovostey/98/

In the meantime, a temporary bridge for construction is already operational as of October this year, with two more bridges being complete by the summer 2016. The construction works are being done at record speeds.

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/68497/


By the way, a very informative unofficial site, dedicated to the history and construction of the Kerch Strait bridge (including the power bridge and the projected construction of a gas pipeline between Crimea and Krasnodar):

http://kerch-most.ru/

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December 08, 2015, 02:24:23 AM
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In the meantime, a temporary bridge for construction is already operational as of October this year, with two more bridges being complete by the summer 2016. The construction works are being done at record speeds.

Tell us more about this temporary bridge. Is it possible for commercial vehicles, such as trucks to use this bridge? Also, is permission granted for all the vehicles, or only to a few vehicles depending upon the load? Also, how is the power situation right now in Crimea? Has electricity been restored to the rural areas as well?
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December 08, 2015, 01:13:50 PM
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In the meantime, a temporary bridge for construction is already operational as of October this year, with two more bridges being complete by the summer 2016. The construction works are being done at record speeds.

Tell us more about this temporary bridge. Is it possible for commercial vehicles, such as trucks to use this bridge? Also, is permission granted for all the vehicles, or only to a few vehicles depending upon the load? Also, how is the power situation right now in Crimea? Has electricity been restored to the rural areas as well?

First about the power bridge: it is operating at 1/4th of the projected capacity and is supplying Crimea with enough power, combined with the provisional power stations, which were deployed around the peninsular during the 11-day power blockade.

http://kerch-most.ru/energomost-zapushhen-nagruzka-narashhivaetsya-postepenno-i-budet-dovedena-do-200-megavatt.html

And interesting note: Ukraine stated yesterday that power supplies are restored and Ukraine can again supply Crimea with electricity, to which the republican government replied that Crimea no longer needs power supplies from Ukraine, and that Crimea is self-sufficient - another lever of blackmail has been ripped from the Ukrainian hands.

As for the temperate bridge, it is used in construction works only. There are 3 such bridges in all, to facilitate the construction of the main bridge from several starting points simultaneously.
http://kerch-most.ru/po-texnologicheskomu-mostu-rm-1-cherez-kerchenskij-proliv-proshli-pervye-gruzoviki-foto.html


Other points on note: Before the constructions could start, both shores and the bottom had to be swiped for undetonated munitions from WWII - this area saw heavy fighting.
Then, on the Crimean side, an archaeological site was discovered and had to be properly recorded and studied.

A mobile cement factory for the needs of the construction needed to be erected:
http://kerch-most.ru/v-kerchi-sobran-iz-modulej-i-zapushhen-v-rabotu-mobilnyj-betonnyj-zavod.html

Also, several housing areas will be affected by the construction, and people need to be offered replacement housing and relocated, and new houses need to be built for these people:

http://kerch-most.ru/snosit-zhile-na-cementnoj-slobodke-budut-v-sentyabre-oktyabre-2016-goda.html


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December 08, 2015, 05:18:55 PM
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And interesting note: Ukraine stated yesterday that power supplies are restored and Ukraine can again supply Crimea with electricity, to which the republican government replied that Crimea no longer needs power supplies from Ukraine, and that Crimea is self-sufficient - another lever of blackmail has been ripped from the Ukrainian hands.

OK... so the idiots in Kiev destroyed one of their major foreign currency earners due to their stupidity. Now attempts should be made to achieve self-sufficiency in food products as well.

As for the temperate bridge, it is used in construction works only. There are 3 such bridges in all, to facilitate the construction of the main bridge from several starting points simultaneously.

Hmm... so the common people won't be allowed to use these bridges. I just hope that the construction of the main bridge will be finished on time. It will give a major boost to the local tourism sector.

The Ukrainians are in for big trouble in 2019. They will be devoid of the gas transit fees (Nord Stream 2 will be complete by then). They will be devoid of the revenues from the electricity sales, and one of the most important markets for Ukrainian fruits and vegetables will be inaccessible to them.
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December 08, 2015, 06:01:17 PM
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News regarding electricity:
Ukraine resumed delivery of electricity to Crimea, but only 160 MWatt. Aksejonov informed the Federal government, the Ministry of Energy, that Crimea does not need the power from Ukraine, especially with additional 200MW coming across Kerch Strait in the next few days:
http://ria.ru/society/20151208/1338390329.html

The situation is a bit complicated, though. As far as I understand it, the electricity, delivered to Crimea was ultimately Russian power "transit" - Russia supplies electricity to Northern Ukraine, which does not have enough own capacity, and in return Ukraine supplied Crimea with power. One has to remember that the Russian/Ukrainian power grid is an integrated system of a single country, which was artificiality chopped up after the dismemberment of USSR.
So for Russia it is a dilemma, if it should continue subsidising Ukraine, as Ukraine has no money to pay for the electricity.



Aksjonov replied to Biden's statement, where he refused to recognise Crimea as part of Russia, and said that he in turn refuses to recognise USA as a state.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/12/08/aksenov/
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December 08, 2015, 06:25:39 PM
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News regarding electricity:
Ukraine resumed delivery of electricity to Crimea, but only 160 MWatt. Aksejonov informed the Federal government, the Ministry of Energy, that Crimea does not need the power from Ukraine, especially with additional 200MW coming across Kerch Strait in the next few days:
http://ria.ru/society/20151208/1338390329.html

The situation is a bit complicated, though. As far as I understand it, the electricity, delivered to Crimea was ultimately Russian power "transit" - Russia supplies electricity to Northern Ukraine, which does not have enough own capacity, and in return Ukraine supplied Crimea with power. One has to remember that the Russian/Ukrainian power grid is an integrated system of a single country, which was artificiality chopped up after the dismemberment of USSR.
So for Russia it is a dilemma, if it should continue subsidising Ukraine, as Ukraine has no money to pay for the electricity.

Heh, why am I not surprised...of course it´s heavily integrated it´s virtually the same country, at least as a good chunk of Ukraine is concerned.

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December 18, 2015, 07:29:51 PM
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A curious detail regarding the energy bridge.

Russia does not make the high-voltage insulated underwater cables, but was rather buying them from the West on the rare occasions they were needed.
This time, as soon as the American, European and Australian firms learnt that the cable was to be used to restore power to close to 2.5 million people in Crimea, who suffered from terrorist acts of Mejlis/Turkish Black Wolves, these Western firms promptly rejected to sell the cable. Russia bought the cable from China, but South Korea was also competing for the contract to deliver the cable.

Apropos the extremist organisation Mejlis - it's leader met today with Erdogan...

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December 18, 2015, 11:20:01 PM
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Better step up security, a terrorist base of operation may be about to appear on your doorstep

"In addition, the politician revealed plans to create a military unit on the border with the Crimea with the help of Turkey. The unit, which will be part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and will report to the Ministry of Defense of the country, which will be located in the Kherson region."

http://fortruss.blogspot.is/2015/12/ukraine-turkey-love-story.html

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December 19, 2015, 06:34:59 AM
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"In addition, the politician revealed plans to create a military unit on the border with the Crimea with the help of Turkey. The unit, which will be part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and will report to the Ministry of Defense of the country, which will be located in the Kherson region."

OK.. perfectly fine with me. Let the goatfuckers of Bakhchysarai and Eski Yurt travel to the Kherson Oblast, to join their Turkish and Right Sector brethren. At least the goats will feel safe in Crimea.  Grin

And going by the same logic, Russia should start providing anti-aircraft weaponry and heavy armor to the Kurdish rebel groups, such as the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) and the People's Protection Units (YPG).
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December 19, 2015, 01:26:13 PM
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Well, Turkey ending up stuck between the Russians and the Kurds would be a fantastic outcome.

“Turkey's actions — and on the contrary, its inaction on certain issues — pose a real threat” to Russian security,  “The Kurds, of course, should not be excluded from this process [of peace talks on Syria], as well as from collective efforts against [IS] and other terrorist groups in Syria and Iraq, where they play a significant role in countering the terrorist threat.”

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexei Meshkov told RIA Novosti on Dec 16th.

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