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Author Topic: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain - Airdrop ended, last coins destroyed!!  (Read 347621 times)
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March 18, 2014, 01:08:45 PM
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I agree with those point. However I don't see the issues being fixed that soon.
As for the last it takes a lot of man power to actually do the checking  without a public id database.
I think you haven't understood how it will be done. It won't be manual labour (and no there isn't a public database). The ID card has a chip that's even capable of digital signing, that's how the id can be automatically verified. They insert the card in a reader and identify themselves to the website or application in question. It's been explained already, and it's on the website's FAQ.
There is no paperwork involved on our part

Is the type of card mandatory for every citizen in Spain ? There were users (from Spain) who claimed that not all Spaniards have one.
Is is free or legal , and can everybody have access to the verification mechanism?  
What reader?

Every citizen has a DNI (national identity document). Since 2006 they all have the chip-card. Some people have the old DNI but most have the new DNI-e, because there was a strong campaign to increase adoption. It's cumbersome to use on government websites though so people don't use it much, but its capabilities are there for anyone to use. DNIs have to be renewed every 10 years and we're on year 8 since dnie was introduced: that plus the initial campaign to boost adoption means practically everyone has it by now.

http://www.dnielectronico.es/como_utilizar_el_dnie/

A USB iso7816 smartcard reader will do. Some keyboards have one built-in.

Hmm... this is certainly an interesting development. I wasn't expecting you to have it all that well thought out. I didn't know Spain had these kind of IDs.

I'm from Barcelona, ​​Spain, who has no DNI "new" (they are 8 years since its implantation), in 24 hours you have one with chip-card.


So you can upgrade yours to one of the new chiped ones and also get that reader device?


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March 18, 2014, 01:10:12 PM
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When will this go on Cryptsy??
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March 18, 2014, 01:11:17 PM
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NEED MORE SELL ORDERS!


woah, 12k spain +86btc. :O over 65grand in your account! YOU MINI WHALE!

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March 18, 2014, 01:11:30 PM
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When will this go on Cryptsy??

When the price fall on the ground.

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March 18, 2014, 01:13:28 PM
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NEED MORE SELL ORDERS!

woah, 12k spain +86btc. :O over 65grand in your account! YOU MINI WHALE!

The question is the buy in price. If he got in at 0.004, then ye, he needs a LOT of buy orders:D
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March 18, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
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NEED MORE SELL ORDERS!

woah, 12k spain +86btc. :O over 65grand in your account! YOU MINI WHALE!

The question is the buy in price. If he got in at 0.004, then ye, he needs a LOT of buy orders:D

For some reason i think he got in under 0.001 Wink

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March 18, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
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My buy order for 0.0005 didn't get filled! damn

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March 18, 2014, 01:22:52 PM
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I agree with those point. However I don't see the issues being fixed that soon.
As for the last it takes a lot of man power to actually do the checking  without a public id database.
I think you haven't understood how it will be done. It won't be manual labour (and no there isn't a public database). The ID card has a chip that's even capable of digital signing, that's how the id can be automatically verified. They insert the card in a reader and identify themselves to the website or application in question. It's been explained already, and it's on the website's FAQ.
There is no paperwork involved on our part

Is the type of card mandatory for every citizen in Spain ? There were users (from Spain) who claimed that not all Spaniards have one.
Is is free or legal , and can everybody have access to the verification mechanism?  
What reader?

Every citizen has a DNI (national identity document). Since 2006 they all have the chip-card. Some people have the old DNI but most have the new DNI-e, because there was a strong campaign to increase adoption. It's cumbersome to use on government websites though so people don't use it much, but its capabilities are there for anyone to use. DNIs have to be renewed every 10 years and we're on year 8 since dnie was introduced: that plus the initial campaign to boost adoption means practically everyone has it by now.

http://www.dnielectronico.es/como_utilizar_el_dnie/

A USB iso7816 smartcard reader will do. Some keyboards have one built-in.

Hmm... this is certainly an interesting development. I wasn't expecting you to have it all that well thought out. I didn't know Spain had these kind of IDs.

I'm from Barcelona, ​​Spain, who has no DNI "new" (they are 8 years since its implantation), in 24 hours you have one with chip-card.


So you can upgrade yours to one of the new chiped ones and also get that reader device?

Yes, no problem, it is easy
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March 18, 2014, 01:27:00 PM
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My buy order for 0.0005 didn't get filled! damn

you may get your chance, its 50-50 atm. the price is holding above .00140 for now, but may drop later on.
i stand corrected, now at .00136, i suspect another few dips before anything major will happen atm.
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March 18, 2014, 01:27:44 PM
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My buy order for 0.0005 didn't get filled! damn

you may get your chance, its 50-50 atm. the price is holding above .00140 for now, but may drop later on.


Lots of manipulation.

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March 18, 2014, 01:30:07 PM
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My buy order for 0.0005 didn't get filled! damn

you may get your chance, its 50-50 atm. the price is holding above .00140 for now, but may drop later on.


Lots of manipulation.

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i know, it seems like the pumpers are restocking once they push lower inorder to make another small profit. i honestly dont know why they waste thier time with these small time pumps, when with one steady push they could increase the profits by 10 times or more.
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March 18, 2014, 01:34:05 PM
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My buy order for 0.0005 didn't get filled! damn

you may get your chance, its 50-50 atm. the price is holding above .00140 for now, but may drop later on.


Lots of manipulation.

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0.00138610   0.10000000   0.00013861

i know, it seems like the pumpers are restocking once they push lower inorder to make another small profit. i honestly dont know why they waste thier time with these small time pumps, when with one steady push they could increase the profits by 10 times or more.

It was 0.0007 7 hours ago, thats 100% profit now. Not that bad.
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March 18, 2014, 01:34:16 PM
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i know, it seems like the pumpers are restocking once they push lower inorder to make another small profit. i honestly dont know why they waste thier time with these small time pumps, when with one steady push they could increase the profits by 10 times or more.

I just wish people would not look at "Last Price" and that little bitcoin value in the upper left hand side of Mintpal.

You have to look at the Sell order book to see what a lot of people are selling a lot of coins for to determine the price. "Last Price" and that bitcoin value are based on the last purchase but volume is not taken into account. So "Last Price" could represent a volume of 1 SPA,  that is not the price. But that will affect your bitcoin value and Last Price and you will see people panic dumping 50,000 coins into an ocean of 1 coin sales just because they saw their bitcoin value go down.

The real price of SPA on Mintpal right now is around 155000 based on where the sell orders are, the ones for more than ONE coin lol.
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March 18, 2014, 01:42:55 PM
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I agree with those point. However I don't see the issues being fixed that soon.
As for the last it takes a lot of man power to actually do the checking  without a public id database.
I think you haven't understood how it will be done. It won't be manual labour (and no there isn't a public database). The ID card has a chip that's even capable of digital signing, that's how the id can be automatically verified. They insert the card in a reader and identify themselves to the website or application in question. It's been explained already, and it's on the website's FAQ.
There is no paperwork involved on our part

Is the type of card mandatory for every citizen in Spain ? There were users (from Spain) who claimed that not all Spaniards have one.
Is is free or legal , and can everybody have access to the verification mechanism?  
What reader?

Every citizen has a DNI (national identity document). Since 2006 they all have the chip-card. Some people have the old DNI but most have the new DNI-e, because there was a strong campaign to increase adoption. It's cumbersome to use on government websites though so people don't use it much, but its capabilities are there for anyone to use. DNIs have to be renewed every 10 years and we're on year 8 since dnie was introduced: that plus the initial campaign to boost adoption means practically everyone has it by now.

http://www.dnielectronico.es/como_utilizar_el_dnie/

A USB iso7816 smartcard reader will do. Some keyboards have one built-in.

Hmm... this is certainly an interesting development. I wasn't expecting you to have it all that well thought out. I didn't know Spain had these kind of IDs.

I'm from Barcelona, ​​Spain, who has no DNI "new" (they are 8 years since its implantation), in 24 hours you have one with chip-card.


So you can upgrade yours to one of the new chiped ones and also get that reader device?

Yes, no problem, it is easy

Here's the DNI, image google






view more ? :
https://www.google.es/search?q=foto+carnet+dni+electronico&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=rUsoU8iyBoWI0AXLxIFQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=643#q=dni+electronico+espa%C3%B1ol&tbm=isch&imgdii=_




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March 18, 2014, 01:47:57 PM
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I agree with those point. However I don't see the issues being fixed that soon.
As for the last it takes a lot of man power to actually do the checking  without a public id database.
I think you haven't understood how it will be done. It won't be manual labour (and no there isn't a public database). The ID card has a chip that's even capable of digital signing, that's how the id can be automatically verified. They insert the card in a reader and identify themselves to the website or application in question. It's been explained already, and it's on the website's FAQ.
There is no paperwork involved on our part

Is the type of card mandatory for every citizen in Spain ? There were users (from Spain) who claimed that not all Spaniards have one.
Is is free or legal , and can everybody have access to the verification mechanism?  
What reader?

Every citizen has a DNI (national identity document). Since 2006 they all have the chip-card. Some people have the old DNI but most have the new DNI-e, because there was a strong campaign to increase adoption. It's cumbersome to use on government websites though so people don't use it much, but its capabilities are there for anyone to use. DNIs have to be renewed every 10 years and we're on year 8 since dnie was introduced: that plus the initial campaign to boost adoption means practically everyone has it by now.

http://www.dnielectronico.es/como_utilizar_el_dnie/

A USB iso7816 smartcard reader will do. Some keyboards have one built-in.

Hmm... this is certainly an interesting development. I wasn't expecting you to have it all that well thought out. I didn't know Spain had these kind of IDs.

I'm from Barcelona, ​​Spain, who has no DNI "new" (they are 8 years since its implantation), in 24 hours you have one with chip-card.


So you can upgrade yours to one of the new chiped ones and also get that reader device?

Yes, no problem, it is easy

Here's the DNI, image google






view more ? :
https://www.google.es/search?q=foto+carnet+dni+electronico&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=rUsoU8iyBoWI0AXLxIFQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=643#q=dni+electronico+espa%C3%B1ol&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

That's one hot chick.


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March 18, 2014, 01:50:32 PM
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There is nothing which can prevent the Photoshop.

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March 18, 2014, 01:52:18 PM
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There is nothing which can prevent the Photoshop.

Yeah I'm sure the Devs will accept a Photoshop copy  Roll Eyes
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March 18, 2014, 01:53:35 PM
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There is nothing which can prevent the Photoshop.

Yeah I'm sure the Devs will accept a Photoshop copy  Roll Eyes

Dudes, they're talking about using some kinda reader for the ID to verify it's legit.

This being said, even professional brokerages accept scanned IDs as proof of ID.


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March 18, 2014, 01:55:52 PM
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There is nothing which can prevent the Photoshop.

Yeah I'm sure the Devs will accept a Photoshop copy  Roll Eyes

Dudes, they're talking about using some kinda reader for the ID to verify it's legit.

This being said, even professional brokerages accept scanned IDs as proof of ID.

Mine was tongue in cheek Herp  Wink
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March 18, 2014, 01:58:51 PM
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There is nothing which can prevent the Photoshop.

Yeah I'm sure the Devs will accept a Photoshop copy  Roll Eyes

Dudes, they're talking about using some kinda reader for the ID to verify it's legit.

This being said, even professional brokerages accept scanned IDs as proof of ID.

Mine was tongue in cheek Herp  Wink

Yeah figured as much. Just wanted to include you in the conversation.  Kiss


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