T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion

[Avirunes]

Just for your knowledge that Chris Gayle is playing for the Jozi but still they are on the losing side.

I am not following that league but regarding Chris Gayle I would say, he has gotten old now and is struggling a lot. I know what kind of explosive player he is. I still recall his IPL innings along with Kohli of 175 but right now he is struggling a lot. I hardly think there is cricket left for him now. He still can play one or two crucial innings but consistency is also a key factor which has worn out with his age (I guess).

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[JohnBitCo]

Just for your knowledge that Chris Gayle is playing for the Jozi but still they are on the losing side.

I am not following that league but regarding Chris Gayle I would say, he has gotten old now and is struggling a lot. I know what kind of explosive player he is. I still recall his IPL innings along with Kohli of 175 but right now he is struggling a lot. I hardly think there is cricket left for him now. He still can play one or two crucial innings but consistency is also a key factor which has worn out with his age (I guess).

Chris Gayle scored 17 in the first match and 18 in the last match yesterday. No doubt he has gone old but the power with which he hits is still more than many present day cricketers. You never know in which match he gets form back and got going.

[Haunebu]

Bangladesh proved that they can be competitive even without Shakib al Hassan and Tamim Iqbal. But being competitive is not good enough. Yesterday, they lost the match from a very good position, and it was an inexperienced Indian bowler who destroyed them (Deepak Chahar).

Tamim Iqbal was never as consistent as Shakib from quite sometime which is why I don't think his omission is such a big deal. Naim performed well through out the series and he probably has reserved a permanent spot for himself in the squad.

On the other hand, Chahar has a lot of experience in local leagues like the IPL where MSD played him as his main bowler in CSK and that is where he impressed me which is why his current figures are not surprising to be honest. Another gem discovered thanks to IPL.

[Indymoney]

Bangladesh proved that they can be competitive even without Shakib al Hassan and Tamim Iqbal. But being competitive is not good enough. Yesterday, they lost the match from a very good position, and it was an inexperienced Indian bowler who destroyed them (Deepak Chahar).

Tamim Iqbal was never as consistent as Shakib from quite sometime which is why I don't think his omission is such a big deal. Naim performed well through out the series and he probably has reserved a permanent spot for himself in the squad.

On the other hand, Chahar has a lot of experience in local leagues like the IPL where MSD played him as his main bowler in CSK and that is where he impressed me which is why his current figures are not surprising to be honest. Another gem discovered thanks to IPL.

Now its time for Bangladesh to think about future and bring some new talent as they also have BPL which is not bad at all Tamim and Shakib was backbone but now they are past they have to look future and if they able to bring few good players like Naim this could be very helpful for them.

[7788bitcoin]

On the other hand, Chahar has a lot of experience in local leagues like the IPL where MSD played him as his main bowler in CSK and that is where he impressed me which is why his current figures are not surprising to be honest. Another gem discovered thanks to IPL.

I am hearing about Deepak Chahar for the first time and to record the best T20 bowling figures is not a small feat and he took a hat trick of wickets too and his consistent line and length impressed me than anything else, so when the other players comes back to the team what happens to these players that played very well will they be in the team, India and England  are in a good position right now with good bench strength and the rest of the teams much catch up with these teams.

[sureshnsnet]

On the other hand, Chahar has a lot of experience in local leagues like the IPL where MSD played him as his main bowler in CSK and that is where he impressed me which is why his current figures are not surprising to be honest. Another gem discovered thanks to IPL.

I am hearing about Deepak Chahar for the first time and to record the best T20 bowling figures is not a small feat and he took a hat trick of wickets too and his consistent line and length impressed me than anything else, so when the other players comes back to the team what happens to these players that played very well will they be in the team, India and England  are in a good position right now with good bench strength and the rest of the teams much catch up with these teams.

After this T20 series the Deepak chahar jump is ranking to 88 in T20 bowling because he played only 7 T20 intarnationl games and taken 14 wickets with best bowling performance is 6/7. i am sure that he will play for india long time.

[ene1980]

After this T20 series the Deepak chahar jump is ranking to 88 in T20 bowling because he played only 7 T20 intarnationl games and taken 14 wickets with best bowling performance is 6/7. i am sure that he will play for india long time.

I thought he was a spinner but after checking his profile i was surprised to see that he is a medium pace bowler who took the best figures in T20 internationals and that too in Indian pitches is incredible. India is currently resting all their top bowlers and what happens when the rest of the players return, if he could perform consistently then he will be an asset to the team. After the win in the first T20 i thought Bangladesh could win another and seal the series but India came back strong .

[Sithara007]

After this T20 series the Deepak chahar jump is ranking to 88 in T20 bowling because he played only 7 T20 intarnationl games and taken 14 wickets with best bowling performance is 6/7. i am sure that he will play for india long time.

To put it frankly, I don't think that any spots are available right now in the national team. Chahar got an opportunity to play, only because senior players such as Mohammad Shami and Jasprit Bumrah were unavailable. He may get some T20 matches every now and then, but I guess he may need to wait for a few years to break in to the ODI/Test squad.

And it is not just Shami/Bumrah. Apart from these two, there is Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav. The Indian player pool is so big, that now many of the quality players are even finding it difficult to get selected for the domestic sides (and don't forget the fact that India has a total of 37 domestic first class teams). The competition for the spots has reached its zenith. 

[Haunebu]

The Indian player pool is so big, that now many of the quality players are even finding it difficult to get selected for the domestic sides (and don't forget the fact that India has a total of 37 domestic first class teams). The competition for the spots has reached its zenith. 

Very true. The current Indian bowling lineup is basically organized in this manner:

- Fast bowlers : Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Ishant, Umesh
- Spin bowlers : Ashwin, Jadeja, Chahal, Kuldeep
- Medium pace : Hardik

Emerging players like Chahar, Sundar etc need to perform consistently over a long period of time in order to replace any of the above players.

[Vishnu.Reang]

The Indian player pool is so big, that now many of the quality players are even finding it difficult to get selected for the domestic sides (and don't forget the fact that India has a total of 37 domestic first class teams). The competition for the spots has reached its zenith.  

Very true. The current Indian bowling lineup is basically organized in this manner:

- Fast bowlers : Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Ishant, Umesh
- Spin bowlers : Ashwin, Jadeja, Chahal, Kuldeep
- Medium pace : Hardik

Emerging players like Chahar, Sundar etc need to perform consistently over a long period of time in order to replace any of the above players.

There is another important spot. That of the wicket keeper. Currently Rishabh Pant seems to have cemented his spot, with KL Rahul as the second choice keeper. There are a lot of younger players competing for this spot, including Sanju Samson, Ishan Kishan, Ankush Bains and Srikar Bharat. I would say that the competition for this spot is the toughest right now in the Indian XI.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

There is another important spot. That of the wicket keeper. Currently Rishabh Pant seems to have cemented his spot, with KL Rahul as the second choice keeper. There are a lot of younger players competing for this spot, including Sanju Samson, Ishan Kishan, Ankush Bains and Srikar Bharat. I would say that the competition for this spot is the toughest right now in the Indian XI.

Rishabh Pant did not perform that well in the past few series and he is not even a good wicket keeper when you compare the other talents India has and so you cannot say that he cemented his place in the team, i would like to see Sanju Samson getting a chance in the coming series as he is in good form and his wicket keeping skills is yet to be seen. India does have a good talented bowling line up, but the batting line up is to be sorted out.

[JSRAW]

The Indian player pool is so big, that now many of the quality players are even finding it difficult to get selected for the domestic sides (and don't forget the fact that India has a total of 37 domestic first class teams). The competition for the spots has reached its zenith. 

Very true. The current Indian bowling lineup is basically organized in this manner:

- Fast bowlers : Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Ishant, Umesh
- Spin bowlers : Ashwin, Jadeja, Chahal, Kuldeep
- Medium pace : Hardik

Emerging players like Chahar, Sundar etc need to perform consistently over a long period of time in order to replace any of the above players.

That's how i look at this

Seamers :

1. Bumrah : Go to bowler for all 3 format
2. Shami : Solid for ODI and Test. we might see him in 15 men squad for T-20 world cup
3. Ishant : Still got some juice left for at least next 2-3 years for the Test match. we are not going to see him at Shorter format ever. may be IPL
4. Bhuvi : Solid for all 3 format but missing games due to tough competition.
5. Umesh : Good for Test format. missed the train of Shorter format, i doubt if selectors going back to him ever. unless they are smoking some strong stuff.

6. Chahar : Good for short format and would like to see him more in upcoming New Zealand series next year
7. Navdeep Saini : same as above
8. Khaleel : The only reason management giving him chances because he is left arm seamer. good performer for India A though.
9. Mohammed Siraj :  He needs to prove himself on consistent basis.

Then there are some good seam bowlers in Domestic cricket these 3 names comes to my mind right now

10. Avesh Khan : Work in progress product
11. Shivam Mavi : Work in progress product
12. K Nagarkoti : If he work on his fitness/injuries then he's the top contender for Seamers and can get direct entry in the Indian squad without any doubt. his fielding is cherry on top

Jeez that's a long list and i am sure i forgot at-least 3-4 domestic seamers.


Spinners

1. Ashwin : Solid for Home Test series and In squad for away tour. ODI and T-20 career finished
2. Jadeja : Solid for All 3 format and i see him in T-20 WC Squad as an all rounder
3. Kuldeep : Future of Indian spin, struggling to secure place in the squad because of new formula " Deep batting line up"
4. Chahal : Good for Shorter format
5. W. Sunder : Handy bowler who can bat, he's new bit n pieces example

Then there are some average off spin bowlers. It worrisome news for India that they are not able to produce any quality wrist spinners.

All rounder

India is not producing good all rounders as well. they are trying hard but its not enough imho.
 
1. Hardik : He is very good but not consistent at all.
2. Aksar Patel : he's promising but not doing any justice with his talent.
3. S. Dubey : He made quite a good reputation for himself in Domestic Cricket but new in International cricket, let's see.
4. Krunal : He's okay bowler in T-20 and can bat for sure.

Jadeja is good example and in Test format Ashwin can say " I know how to bat"

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Looks like India just have rich haul of talents when it comes to bowling and there is a healthy competition between all the bowlers to get in the team but what about the young batting talents, i have not seen most of the players mentioned here may be i have not seen them play international matches against Australia or England. Since T20 started you see many batsman who can hit the ball a long way but there is a lack of classic players like we used to see in the past.

[Sithara007]

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Well.. very detailed. Regarding the pacers, I still don't understand why bowlers like Siraj and Khaleel are getting selected over Shami. If the intention is to reduce the workload, then I don't agree. If the management wants to rest him, then they should do a rotational selection policy for tests, just like what the Australians are doing. Keeping good bowlers out of T20 is not the right thing to do. It is actually irritating to see Khaleel getting selected again and again after repeated bad performances.

BTW, I was surprised to see the name of Kamlesh Nagarkoti. He hasn't played any cricket for the last 2 years and I really doubt whether we'll ever see him on action again. From what I have heard, he has changed his bowling action to avoid a repetition of the injury (by making it more side-on). But the problem is that when you change your bowling action, then it is not always very effective. This is what happened with Mfuneko Ngam. 

[Avirunes]

All rounder

India is not producing good all rounders as well. they are trying hard but its not enough imho.
 
1. Hardik : He is very good but not consistent at all.
2. Aksar Patel : he's promising but not doing any justice with his talent.
3. S. Dubey : He made quite a good reputation for himself in Domestic Cricket but new in International cricket, let's see.
4. Krunal : He's okay bowler in T-20 and can bat for sure.

Jadeja is good example and in Test format Ashwin can say " I know how to bat"

It is hard to find all rounder actually. I still recall Pandya coming in as a bowler and slowly getting up the middle slot in batting. It is quite hard for them also to get a chance when you have so much pool of cricketers to play. There is hardly a room to test out. They only discover it when someone surprise them I guess.

Maybe putting some time into development of some of bowlers will be good. Does any body recall the Pathan Brothers , Yuvraj Singh...Ufff... What kind of all rounders we had. Plus some entertainment cherry - Harbhajan Singh on top 

[sureshnsnet]

Tomorrow we have a first t20 match between Afghanistan VS West Indies this time Afghanistan can have any chance to win t20 series because Afghanistan t20 squad have good all-rounders players compared with West indies please share your thoughts here.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Tomorrow we have a first t20 match between Afghanistan VS West Indies this time Afghanistan can have any chance to win t20 series because Afghanistan t20 squad have good all-rounders players compared with West indies please share your thoughts here.

I am not that excited considering that Afghanistan struggled to put runs on the board in ODI and they have some players who can strike the ball and so does West Indies and the only player that can make a difference is Rashid Khan and if the Afghan players are able to put a decent score on the board then they have the bowlers to win the match but it depends upon whether they can and if West Indies put up a huge total on the board there is no way Afghanistan is chasing those.

[onrise]

Tomorrow we have a first t20 match between Afghanistan VS West Indies this time Afghanistan can have any chance to win t20 series because Afghanistan t20 squad have good all-rounders players compared with West indies please share your thoughts here.

WI team has a good Vance to win it as they are a better in T20 than the other formats and considering the WI has won the game against the opponent also makes their confidence high and to play the best cricket to win the series as well .

[Haunebu]

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Damn. You should become a selector someday(Bits and pieces selector   ). My list was meant to cover the current bowling lineup(old and young), but your list pretty much highlights the entire squad in its entirety. Epic stuff bro.

I feel like Sunder, Chahar, Shreyas and Samson are the future of the Indian squad(Wild prediction).

[JSRAW]

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but what about the young batting talents,

Batting pool is also very good. we can safely say that Indian cricket is safe for next 10 years or so.

i have not seen most of the players mentioned here may be i have not seen them play international matches against Australia or England.

Management using them in T-20 format for quite some time (not domestic bowlers). before T-20 WC we have plenty of games so we might see some familiar face against the Eng, Aus and NZ.
 

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Well.. very detailed. Regarding the pacers, I still don't understand why bowlers like Siraj and Khaleel are getting selected over Shami. If the intention is to reduce the workload, then I don't agree. If the management wants to rest him, then they should do a rotational selection policy for tests, just like what the Australians are doing. Keeping good bowlers out of T20 is not the right thing to do. It is actually irritating to see Khaleel getting selected again and again after repeated bad performances.

Agree, Siraj and Khaleel doing bad. Siraj might find some difficulties to get in Squad anytime soon. About Khaleel selection; as far as i understand they are giving him more chances only because he's left arm seamer. And historically every cricket board try to get hold on them because they provide different angle to batsmen and can be very lethal if groomed well.

Rotation policy is good option but only in Shorter format i suppose.

BTW, I was surprised to see the name of Kamlesh Nagarkoti. He hasn't played any cricket for the last 2 years and I really doubt whether we'll ever see him on action again. From what I have heard, he has changed his bowling action to avoid a repetition of the injury (by making it more side-on). But the problem is that when you change your bowling action, then it is not always very effective. This is what happened with Mfuneko Ngam.

Last i heard he's recovering well and available for domestic season, hope everything goes well for this 19 yo boy.

All rounder
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It is hard to find all rounder actually. I still recall Pandya coming in as a bowler and slowly getting up the middle slot in batting. It is quite hard for them also to get a chance when you have so much pool of cricketers to play. There is hardly a room to test out. They only discover it when someone surprise them I guess.

Maybe putting some time into development of some of bowlers will be good. Does any body recall the Pathan Brothers , Yuvraj Singh...Ufff... What kind of all rounders we had. Plus some entertainment cherry - Harbhajan Singh on top  

True, Genuine all rounder are treasure so its obviously hard to find.

Sad but true, we are not going to find likes of Yuvraj in Indian cricket ever. Even Suresh Raina was quite handy cricketer and won countless games for India.

On different note i would say that current batting specialists don't want to be a part time bowlers or they lack skills, Before India used to have Sachin, Sehwag, Ganguly,Yuvraj, Raina (specialist batsmen but can bowl too when needed) this is missing right now.

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I feel like Sunder, Chahar, Shreyas and Samson are the future of the Indian squad(Wild prediction)

Sanju Manju aka sajay manjarekar is now famous with his remarks " Bits and pieces" lol

But Thanks bro
Yeah, just a matter of time. Shreyas  has a bright future, this guy is captain material too. in fact many batsmen of new crop are suitable for captain role in the near future, hope management mold them with cautions.