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^^^ It is a very packed schedule for India, although there is a possibility that the Asia Cup (which is originally scheduled for June 2021) will be postponed to next year. The selectors need to rotate the players (especially the bowlers) in order to avoid burnout. With such crowded schedule, there is a real chance that a lot of the players will face injury issues. The India tour of Sri Lanka will immediately follow the IPL 2021.
Same story every year, Indian team is cash cow for BCCI and other boards so their schedule is heavily packed no matter what. I think we're are going to see rotation policy soon for all 3 format. Majority of premiere player might get fair amount of rest during SL/Zim and Asia cup if it happens.
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LOL... most of these players (who are participating in the Road Safety World Series) were playing after such a huge gap, and it is not possible for them to maintain enough fitness level for matches against regular players. It was possible for them to perform in a satisfactory way, because both the teams were comprised of retired players. I don't think that they stand a chance against regular players (even those from weak countries such as Zimbabwe).
Lol, are you seriously kidding me here? So you think that those players are "PAANI KAM CHAI" now just because of their age factor? After watching Yuvi hitting those 6's, would you still say that? After seeing Sehwag and Sachin playing on the crease like they never retired, would you still keep the same mindset? I mean, I understand that you didn't disrespect them but the fact is, they retired but never left cricket. If we get to 42 without even practicing and then get to the crease, we'll get bowled at first ball but that's not the case with them.
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^^^ It is a very packed schedule for India, although there is a possibility that the Asia Cup (which is originally scheduled for June 2021) will be postponed to next year. The selectors need to rotate the players (especially the bowlers) in order to avoid burnout. With such crowded schedule, there is a real chance that a lot of the players will face injury issues. The India tour of Sri Lanka will immediately follow the IPL 2021.
Same story every year, Indian team is cash cow for BCCI and other boards so their schedule is heavily packed no matter what. I think we're are going to see rotation policy soon for all 3 format. Majority of premiere player might get fair amount of rest during SL/Zim and Asia cup if it happens. It is the truth, and BCCI is one among the richest sports organization in the world. Possibly this heavily packed schedule will lead to three separate squad for T20, ODI and test format. Only then players will get proper rest. Anyhow with BCCI, players are being paid good and that's the reason why players are very eager to play for leagues like IPL than other similar leagues on different countries.
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Same story every year, Indian team is cash cow for BCCI and other boards so their schedule is heavily packed no matter what. I think we're are going to see rotation policy soon for all 3 format. Majority of premiere player might get fair amount of rest during SL/Zim and Asia cup if it happens.
Ideally India should not be playing against Zimbabwe, as the latter doesn't even have a stable team now. But since the tour is finalized, I would like the BCCI to send a young team led by Shreyas Iyer. The top players (Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah.etc) should be limited to matches against Big 3 plus New Zealand. For the remaining tours, they can have a rotational policy for the top players and younger players can fill some of the slots.
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~ Will the ICC allow these matches, some of the matches were entertaining and they might pose a challenge to much lesser competitive teams as they have spinners who bowled well but the fast bowlers lost their pace and it is expected as they are playing after a long gap and i am not expecting them to bowl at express pace but you cannot compete with a young team and expect to be competitive if they are not playing in spin wickets . It was just an idea thrown for fun and ICC will not be allowing any country to match up against retired players, you might watch them if they put together a fun warm up match or for charity as the players are retired for a reason . Lol, are you seriously kidding me here? So you think that those players are "PAANI KAM CHAI" now just because of their age factor? After watching Yuvi hitting those 6's, would you still say that? After seeing Sehwag and Sachin playing on the crease like they never retired, would you still keep the same mindset? I mean, I understand that you didn't disrespect them but the fact is, they retired but never left cricket. If we get to 42 without even practicing and then get to the crease, we'll get bowled at first ball but that's not the case with them.
Yuvi, Pathan, Sehwag and Sachin were hitting the ball well along with the rest of the players as well and they can be competitive and there is no doubt regarding that. Not sure whether these retired players kept of practicing even after retirement but as long as you have your reflexes and eyesight they will play brilliant knocks if the bowling lineup is weak.
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Yuvi, Pathan, Sehwag and Sachin were hitting the ball well along with the rest of the players as well and they can be competitive and there is no doubt regarding that. Not sure whether these retired players kept of practicing even after retirement but as long as you have your reflexes and eyesight they will play brilliant knocks if the bowling lineup is weak.
I am not sure about Sachin Tendulkar and Virender Sehwag, but the other two (Irfan Pathan and Yuvraj Singh) were playing regular cricket and they were even part of various franchise T20 leagues. Irfan Pathan was a part of the Kandy Tuskers squad for the Lanka Premier League 2020. Yuvraj was involved in multiple franchise T20 leagues. He was a part of the Toronto Nationals squad, and then he represented the Maratha Arabians during Abu Dhabi T10 in 2019.
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Yuvi, Pathan, Sehwag and Sachin were hitting the ball well along with the rest of the players as well and they can be competitive and there is no doubt regarding that. Not sure whether these retired players kept of practicing even after retirement but as long as you have your reflexes and eyesight they will play brilliant knocks if the bowling lineup is weak.
That's what I was trying to say that these big hitters can still play better than our young batsmen (I'm not against any player but it's just my opinion) and we only need our bowlers to be with them and we can still conquer the rest. As you said, I also know that it's just for fun and I'm also revealing some "fun facts" and know that it's almost impossible for me to see them playing on the ground with young players again.
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Same story every year, Indian team is cash cow for BCCI and other boards so their schedule is heavily packed no matter what. I think we're are going to see rotation policy soon for all 3 format. Majority of premiere player might get fair amount of rest during SL/Zim and Asia cup if it happens.
Ideally India should not be playing against Zimbabwe, as the latter doesn't even have a stable team now. But since the tour is finalized, I would like the BCCI to send a young team led by Shreyas Iyer. The top players (Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah.etc) should be limited to matches against Big 3 plus New Zealand. For the remaining tours, they can have a rotational policy for the top players and younger players can fill some of the slots. I doubt that because financially it would be really bad for countries like Afg, Ban, SL, Zim. When Indian team tour someone they also bring big fat checks for the host nations so all these extra tours are part of the eco system. But yeah 2-3 big players should rest, especially Bumrah and Kohli and i'm sure they will.
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~ Why do they need permission from the ICC? As far as I know, retired players don't need any NOC from their own respective cricket board or from the ICC. They are free to play wherever they want. And in case the ICC is afraid that these events will generate good revenue and it will in turn affect their own tournaments, then they should STFU. I have never seen a more incompetent sports body other than the ICC. They are composed of a bunch of greedy businessmen with no love for the game and during the last two decades they have done a lot of damage to the globalization of cricket. Fuck the ICC.
I was asking whether the ICC would give permission if they want to see tournaments with legends and other ICC cricket nations who are not getting opportunity to play top class cricket. ICC or any sports body will be looking to make money and i have no complaints about that if they are taking the sport and making it better. ~ It was just an idea thrown for fun and ICC will not be allowing any country to match up against retired players, you might watch them if they put together a fun warm up match or for charity as the players are retired for a reason . There can be many reasons for retirement, if you are not performing in optimum situation and there are other team members waiting in the ranks and yet they can still play much better cricket than players outside the big teams in cricket. Too much cricket also kills the fun, once in a while seeing these tournaments is fine but not all the time.
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I doubt that because financially it would be really bad for countries like Afg, Ban, SL, Zim. When Indian team tour someone they also bring big fat checks for the host nations so all these extra tours are part of the eco system. But yeah 2-3 big players should rest, especially Bumrah and Kohli and i'm sure they will. Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe receive annual payments from the ICC ranging from $12 million to $15 million. Afghanistan was promoted to the test status relatively recently, so they receive a smaller payment. From these numbers, the financial situation looks very comfortable for these cricket boards. It is the smaller cricket boards (Netherlands, Nepal, Scotland, Kenya.etc) which are facing financial crunch, because they receive very small payments from the ICC.
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I doubt that because financially it would be really bad for countries like Afg, Ban, SL, Zim. When Indian team tour someone they also bring big fat checks for the host nations so all these extra tours are part of the eco system. But yeah 2-3 big players should rest, especially Bumrah and Kohli and i'm sure they will. Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe receive annual payments from the ICC ranging from $12 million to $15 million. Afghanistan was promoted to the test status relatively recently, so they receive a smaller payment. From these numbers, the financial situation looks very comfortable for these cricket boards. It is the smaller cricket boards (Netherlands, Nepal, Scotland, Kenya.etc) which are facing financial crunch, because they receive very small payments from the ICC. BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing. Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.
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BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing.
Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.
There is no point in organizing bilateral series against countries such as Zimbabwe. I guess it has more to do with politics rather than cricket. The BCCI needs some votes in various ICC elections and that is the reason why they are giving a few lollipops to teams such as Zimbabwe. But I really don't understand what the Indian team will gain from such one-sided matches. A few million USD in revenue will be generated inside Zimbabwe, and most of it will be stolen by the corrupt administrators.
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BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing.
Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.
There is no point in organizing bilateral series against countries such as Zimbabwe. I guess it has more to do with politics rather than cricket. The BCCI needs some votes in various ICC elections and that is the reason why they are giving a few lollipops to teams such as Zimbabwe. But I really don't understand what the Indian team will gain from such one-sided matches. A few million USD in revenue will be generated inside Zimbabwe, and most of it will be stolen by the corrupt administrators. If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then. Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.
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If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then.
Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.
But why Zimbabwe, when there are more deserving sides out there? Why India and the other big 3 nations need to play against Zimbabwe, when they never give that opportunity to the smaller teams. If the BCCI can organize a tour of 3 T20Is and 3 ODIs against Zimbabwe, then why can't they give just one game to Nepal, Kenya or Papua New Guinea? Even that one game would be life changer for these countries. The last time India has played against Kenya was in 2004. And India have never played against Nepal or PNG. On the other hand, India and Zimbabwe have played against each other in ODI a total of 63 times.
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If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then.
Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.
But why Zimbabwe, when there are more deserving sides out there? Why India and the other big 3 nations need to play against Zimbabwe, when they never give that opportunity to the smaller teams. If the BCCI can organize a tour of 3 T20Is and 3 ODIs against Zimbabwe, then why can't they give just one game to Nepal, Kenya or Papua New Guinea? Even that one game would be life changer for these countries. The last time India has played against Kenya was in 2004. And India have never played against Nepal or PNG. On the other hand, India and Zimbabwe have played against each other in ODI a total of 63 times. What makes those 3 cricketing nations more deserving than Zimbabwe? They all looks same to me as far as performance goes, Zim arguably comes at top when comparing them. And again its not BCCI job to entertain every associate members.
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What makes those 3 cricketing nations more deserving than Zimbabwe? They all looks same to me as far as performance goes, Zim arguably comes at top when comparing them.
And again its not BCCI job to entertain every associate members.
They may not deserve more. But they don't deserve less. Anyway, this argument has nothing to do with the BCCI. Test status is decided by the ICC and the BCCI has not much say on such decisions. The issue props up because Zimbabwe receives $94 million for the 8-year cycle, but the smaller teams receive less than $1 million for this duration. I don't think that there is anything that could justify such a difference in funding between various countries. If Zimbabwe was a high-income generating country for the ICC, then it could have been justified.
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March 25, 2021, 07:34:52 AM |
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Oh boy entire IPL? Not looking good, recently Lancashire also signed him for their upcoming ODI domestic season so would be good if he recover soon, he need practice games for England tour as well. Hope for the best.
I think it will be better for him to skip the IPL for this season, even if he is declared fit for the last round of matches. Right now Shreyas need to concentrate on his role with the national team. His target should be to replace Virat Kohli as the Indian captain after 3-4 years. Among the younger players in the Indian team, I believe that Shreays is the person who is most suitable for this job. So my opinion is that he should give a lower priority to IPL right now.
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Juggy777
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March 25, 2021, 08:42:01 AM |
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Oh boy entire IPL? Not looking good, recently Lancashire also signed him for their upcoming ODI domestic season so would be good if he recover soon, he need practice games for England tour as well. Hope for the best.
I think it will be better for him to skip the IPL for this season, even if he is declared fit for the last round of matches. Right now Shreyas need to concentrate on his role with the national team. His target should be to replace Virat Kohli as the Indian captain after 3-4 years. Among the younger players in the Indian team, I believe that Shreays is the person who is most suitable for this job. So my opinion is that he should give a lower priority to IPL right now. @bryant.coleman if he’s declared fit then he’ll have to play in IPL and perform in it, otherwise he’ll lose out on a spot for the playing 11 in the upcoming T20 World Cup. Also I feel that Pant could be a contender too for captaining the team, as he’s full of energy and has a stylish personality which I feel will help him communicate effectively with the team.
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