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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It's just that JackpotRacer is not part of our community. He is simply a disappointed narcissist who is harassing us for his own agenda, which is to tailor our product to his desires.

I thought again about your very insulting and unjustified attack and I am sorry to tell you that you are Eva and the owner of Blackjack.fun and maybe you are both one person anyway.

You have the HUBRIS syndrome, but a very strong one.

sadly I have to run now so I will answer the other members postings later

If I am not wrong then I saw in the past you were good towards the blackjack team but sometimes in the recent past you turned against them. Sorry, I did not follow the story very closely but can I have a very brief about whatever thing happened between you and Eva/blackjack team?

[iv4n]

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If I am not wrong then I saw in the past you were good towards the blackjack team but sometimes in the recent past you turned against them. Sorry, I did not follow the story very closely but can I have a very brief about whatever thing happened between you and Eva/blackjack team?

It's a long story... Been following for a while, too much drama for such a small amount of money https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474047.msg63156702#msg63156702...

Let's see what the future brings. We are experimenting with various bonuses.

Hopefully, these upcoming bonuses is not like the last one you posted in the games and rounds section. Imagine a 200x wagering requirement to win $20; only people who have time will play with that bonus. For sure that bonus  not reflect well on your marketing efforts. That make your casino look worst. Never since before a casino required  200x wager requirement.

I saw that no-deposit bonus offer in the games & round section, but after reading the requirements I lost the wish to try Blackjack... x200 wagering and max payout $20 is insane, if they wanted to make some special promotion for bitcointalk users they could come up with something better. And if that happens maybe I will try Blackjack. Good luck to everyone who decided to try this bonus.

[Coin_trader]

I saw that no-deposit bonus offer in the games & round section, but after reading the requirements I lost the wish to try Blackjack... x200 wagering and max payout $20 is insane, if they wanted to make some special promotion for bitcointalk users they could come up with something better. And if that happens maybe I will try Blackjack. Good luck to everyone who decided to try this bonus.

I saw that promotion too on games and round. I thought it was a good promotion since it already received replies that means there’s an interest but reading the replies is hilarious.

Blackjack.fun is not like this before when they still have active signature campaign before(not the newly launch). They started to cut budget in marketing at some point during the casino upgrade. I’m not sure what really happened with the management but they start to become less generous after providing a much better looking website and introduce an investment feature in a form of ninja investor and jack tokens.

I think they really undergo to management restructure since the decrease of marketing budget is very noticeable through their promotion and bonus requirements.

[avp2306]

I saw that no-deposit bonus offer in the games & round section, but after reading the requirements I lost the wish to try Blackjack... x200 wagering and max payout $20 is insane, if they wanted to make some special promotion for bitcointalk users they could come up with something better. And if that happens maybe I will try Blackjack. Good luck to everyone who decided to try this bonus.

I saw that promotion too on games and round. I thought it was a good promotion since it already received replies that means there’s an interest but reading the replies is hilarious.

Blackjack.fun is not like this before when they still have active signature campaign before(not the newly launch). They started to cut budget in marketing at some point during the casino upgrade. I’m not sure what really happened with the management but they start to become less generous after providing a much better looking website and introduce an investment feature in a form of ninja investor and jack tokens.

I think they really undergo to management restructure since the decrease of marketing budget is very noticeable through their promotion and bonus requirements.

This issue is needed to correct since there's a lot of people doesn't feel the same excitement when they try to gamble here before or maybe they are just afraid for some issue to occur since they have seen some controversy happen to this casino these past few months.

Since they are trying to recover back the interest of people and want to make people enjoy all the things they can offer then much better they should look for other appealing also entertaining way to attract back their old users. Maybe they should start to allocate some funds in marketing since this is important to increase their exposure also people could able to enjoy what they can possible to offer in this community.

[JackpotRacer]

It's just that JackpotRacer is not part of our community. He is simply a disappointed narcissist who is harassing us for his own agenda, which is to tailor our product to his desires.

I thought again about your very insulting and unjustified attack and I am sorry to tell you that you are Eva and the owner of Blackjack.fun and maybe you are both one person anyway.

You have the HUBRIS syndrome, but a very strong one.

sadly I have to run now so I will answer the other members postings later

If I am not wrong then I saw in the past you were good towards the blackjack team but sometimes in the recent past you turned against them. Sorry, I did not follow the story very closely but can I have a very brief about whatever thing happened between you and Eva/blackjack team?

Fair enough and thank you for asking for a short recap and not attacking me without any knowledge of the events.
it will be a pleasure for me but I cannot promise that it will be short  

I apologize in advance in case you don't like colored text, as I like it, and for some reason the forum gives us the option to format the text as we wish.

I am also glad that you somehow remember that Blackjack.fun and I were in a very friendly environment as I wanted to help find bugs without asking for any bounty and Blackjack.fun was happy about it and even used my bug reports to fix them.

To better understand where the problem was and is, it always helps to walk in my shoes and also in Blackjack.fun's shoes.

I started playing free roll tournaments there because I love Blackjack and I am also a gaming tester and former casino owner.
You could say that I am a Blackjack expert and can give very good advice when asked.

I quickly understood the main problem with the way the tournaments were offered, but this was not the time to tell Blackjack.fun to close their tournaments and redevelop them, so I concentrated on finding some bugs and giving my feedback, which was appreciated by the owner and he even fixed some.


So the day came when a player in a tournament used an exploit that I, as an experienced blackjack player, immediately spotted.
Frankly, I was shocked that the software that I understood had been in beta testing for several years had this exploit.
Now please put on my shoes and think about what you would do. I will tell you what I did and remember, in these tournaments, the winner wins 1USDT.

I did not immediately report this exploit to the owner of Blackjack.fun because I wanted to make sure that it was not a one-time glitch and anyway it was not a 100USDT or more tournament as it was only a 1USDT tournament.
From that point on, I signed up for the tournaments where the player who used the exploit signed up and tried to sit at the same table. I still think it was right and smart to do it that way. He used the exploit over and over again, and he actually taught me, without knowing it, when to use the exploit.
After I was sure when and how to use the exploit, I waited with patience for the exploit to come up against the player who taught me the exploit and I could use it.
Then it happened and now I hope you still have my shoes on  
I used the exploit and I need to explain in more detail and with an example that is not related to Blackjack as I don't want to explain the exploit in detail here, but explains exactly what I did and not as members here are saying that I used the exploit to win the 1USDT tournament   (sorry for my laugh)

My intention was to show the player and the exploiter that I now know the exploit and it would be better if he stopped using it. to be honest I am not a person who yells police police.....
I wanted to report the exploit later, but I would never reveal the player's username. why should he be punished? because he was smart enough to find this exploit or even needs the 1USDT. we don't know where he is from.

When the exploit came out, I could use it once in a game and no one would get suspicious, or I could use it many times in the same game and everyone would see what I was doing, and especially the person who used the exploit would be shocked that the exploit was now known. This is what I have done, as I have used it many times over and over again in the same game. I need to mention that to use the exploit makes only sense at the end of the tourney to have a very big chance to win the tourney.



Let me try to explain it to you with a simple and perhaps silly example.
7 people are sitting at a table in a coffee shop. 10 $100 bills are spread out on the table. I have very fast hands because I am a magician and I take 1 bill and no one pays attention.
In comparison, the blackjack player who used the exploit once to win the tournament would be stupid to do it again in the same game as it makes no sense even he could do it and he might get caught by other players.
back to the table in the coffee shop where I grabbed a $100 bill and no one saw it. but I did it again and again which means I grabbed 1 bill and another bill and another bill. so few or all 7 at the table saw what I did. what did they do? they called the police to file a complaint.

This is what happened when I used the exploit and intentionally exaggerated few players or only one complaint to the owner of Blackjack.fun. The Blackjack.fun owner did not know my username on the tables as he knew only Jackpotracer from his thread in the forum.

When I tried to log in to the site to check the tournaments and see if the player, who now knows that I know the exploit, is using it again, I was shown the KYC page for Blackjack.fun.
I DMed the owner and asked why I get the KYC site and asked kindly to remove it. he then asked me what is my username
and when telling him my username his answer was

"Ahaa, you got it because you abused the bug in blackjack tournaments of course. As you saw other players complained about you."
I did not see that any user complaint about me! how could I and if yes I would be happy that they saw it.
the he asked me and please understand that he is the developer
"What was the bug and how did you reset the timer?"

he is asking me I did not tell him as he played stupid and did not want to let me back to the site without KYC. why KYC if I did not ask for any withdrawal I had about 30 USDT there. I helped him and did not do it for the money. so insisting on doing KYC for nothing but helping him, sorry this was very strange and unfair behavior.

then it started to get worse and another DM I got was
"We need around 50+ ppl on tournaments to actually test the software. Big amount of ppl will never take part of the tourney where reward is 1usdt. Very logical. Other players got very mad because you didnt let them play in the table and reset the timer  on 1 usdt tables. This is how you collected (at least partly) the funds right? Devs havent checked the exact logs yet. Better to focus on development.

Amounts are very small and it is not about the money of course. If it is about the 24 usdt for you then we can take kyc down till you make a withdrawal."

Now he is actually saying that players are complaining that I did not let them play because I used the exploit. Yes, I used the exploit in such an exaggerated way that they must have seen it. he should be happy that I found it and exposed it! the original user did not expose it because no one complained for years.
then he admits that the devs and I know that he is the developer had not the time to check the game logs. I asked so many times to check the game logs so he can see how many times I used the exploit to win 24USDT LOL but why didnt he check the logs? if he would check the logs he would see that I did it once but many times after the other in same game and he would see that the other player used it more than once in every tournament he played. why is or was he not interested in checking the logs and proving it?

yes that is the big question!!!!! I have my theories.

at one stage I got another DM saying:
"If you create a document of the bugs and suggestions we can reward you with 100 USDT as a one time deal. That would actually make things faster. Most of the bugs we already know. Just need to know when exactly the bugs apper. We could save some funds instead of creating bigger tournaments. But it can work only if you have a good attitude with us. Otherwise it is impossible to communicate."

Now he wanted to buy me even I told him I am not in for the money. As no one can buy I denied the 100USDT proposal and insisted to give the 30USDT he owes me to give it to a Legendary member so he can donate it in a game and rounds riddle or whatever he wants. if he would do this all would be over and no Scam accusation.

That is it as I have to stop myself as I could go on and on as I have many more DMs to show how they behaved unprofessionally to someone who only wanted to help and was not in it for the money.
anyway sorry that it was a very long answer at the end  

if you have any questions if I confused you please ask and it be a pleasure to answer.

All other members, please keep your attacks and insults to yourself and read and try to understand both sides by walking in the shoes of both of us.

Thanks and Cheers

edit:
few minutes later as I forgot to mention that all this because of as they say they owe me 24USDT and I say which I even did not ask to withdraw

[decodx]

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few minutes later as I forgot to mention that all this because of as they say they owe me 24USDT and I say which I even did not ask to withdraw

I get that people have tried explaining why the casino doesn't have to cater to your wishes.  I tried understanding your perspective too.  But now it seems like you're just acting out of spite and a bruised ego. 

Long story short, they gave you a way to cash out without the KYC, but you refused.  They even offered you a $100 bug bounty which you also declined.  I really don't get what you want from them at this point?

Seems like you're convinced the casino owes you something based on your own wishes.  But that ain't how it works! They got their own rules to follow.

[JackpotRacer]

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few minutes later as I forgot to mention that all this because of as they say they owe me 24USDT and I say which I even did not ask to withdraw

I get that people have tried explaining why the casino doesn't have to cater to your wishes.  I tried understanding your perspective too.  But now it seems like you're just acting out of spite and a bruised ego. 

Long story short, they gave you a way to cash out without the KYC, but you refused.  They even offered you a $100 bug bounty which you also declined.  I really don't get what you want from them at this point?

Seems like you're convinced the casino owes you something based on your own wishes.  But that ain't how it works! They got their own rules to follow.

I have principles! Nobody can buy me! I love fairness! I love justice! simple as that

You should read and understand and not just post to show your signature as I call it Signature Spamming!

I have nothing against signature campaigns but I hate those spammers for a few sats and you seem to be one of them.

[decodx]

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few minutes later as I forgot to mention that all this because of as they say they owe me 24USDT and I say which I even did not ask to withdraw

I get that people have tried explaining why the casino doesn't have to cater to your wishes.  I tried understanding your perspective too.  But now it seems like you're just acting out of spite and a bruised ego. 

Long story short, they gave you a way to cash out without the KYC, but you refused.  They even offered you a $100 bug bounty which you also declined.  I really don't get what you want from them at this point?

Seems like you're convinced the casino owes you something based on your own wishes.  But that ain't how it works! They got their own rules to follow.

I have principles! Nobody can buy me! I love fairness! I love justice! simple as that

They are allowed to have principles too, right?  Every platform has the right to set its own rules. Don't like their principles?  Simple - don't use their platform. You agreed to the Terms & Conditions, remember?  Besides, why didn't you answer the question: What exactly do you want from them at this point?

You should read and understand and not just post to show your signature as I call it Signature Spamming!

Don't be silly! 99% of the members who post here have some form of signature, myself included. Focus on the content of posts, not some crusade against signatures.  If you think my posts are spam, you have the option to report them to the moderators.

You want fairness and justice?  Start by being fair in your judgments. I commented on your ridiculous scam accusation thread nearly a month ago, so I'm already familiar with your case. You clearly haven't been paying attention.

[JollyGood]

I cannot be the only member that is being put off entirely by the massive walls of green and blue text. I am unable to read through his post therefore cannot understand what JackpotRacer is trying to articulate, not for that matter do I understand his constant urge to chase Blackjack.fun across various threads when as far as they are concerned the points have been answered.

Even when I had my own concerns, they refused to provide evidence of when their Anjouan licence was issued but at least they are covered by that licence since 19th February 2024 (though it remains unclear what happened between 1st January 2024 - 18th February 2024). Eva (their forum representative) has claimed they have fixed/patched the exploit JackpotRacer referred to.

Finally, they also took swift action and removed their provably fair logo (because not all their games including 3rd party can be verified). As far as I am concerned until/unless any serious allegations of scamming are made against them, they are going in the right direction. They have listened to forum members concerns and are trying to engage with us when we raise concerns and that is a good start.

It is still unclear what he wants from Blackjack.fun at this moment in time.

They are allowed to have principles too, right?  Every platform has the right to set its own rules. Don't like their principles?  Simple - don't use their platform. You agreed to the Terms & Conditions, remember?  Besides, why didn't you answer the question: What exactly do you want from them at this point?

[Coin_trader]

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This issue is needed to correct since there's a lot of people doesn't feel the same excitement when they try to gamble here before or maybe they are just afraid for some issue to occur since they have seen some controversy happen to this casino these past few months.

Actually there’s only one issue against them and it revolves solely to Jackpotracer who’s making a big deal out of a very minor issue that normal player let go and just focus to different aspect of gambling.

Since they are trying to recover back the interest of people and want to make people enjoy all the things they can offer then much better they should look for other appealing also entertaining way to attract back their old users. Maybe they should start to allocate some funds in marketing since this is important to increase their exposure also people could able to enjoy what they can possible to offer in this community.

I think they are already doing the redemption of their casino since they already have a signature campaign. Let’s wait for their upcoming promotion if they will improve the rewards and requirements since they probably hire @icopress assistance for launching a promotion here in the forum.

I really missed the VIP rewards back then which is 1mbtc per week when you wager specific amount per week. Also the rewards of the tournament back then is very competitive against big casino. Maybe they should revamped too that part and removes the ridiculous wagering requirements.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It's just that JackpotRacer is not part of our community. He is simply a disappointed narcissist who is harassing us for his own agenda, which is to tailor our product to his desires.

I thought again about your very insulting and unjustified attack and I am sorry to tell you that you are Eva and the owner of Blackjack.fun and maybe you are both one person anyway.

You have the HUBRIS syndrome, but a very strong one.

sadly I have to run now so I will answer the other members postings later

If I am not wrong then I saw in the past you were good towards the blackjack team but sometimes in the recent past you turned against them. Sorry, I did not follow the story very closely but can I have a very brief about whatever thing happened between you and Eva/blackjack team?

Fair enough and thank you for asking for a short recap and not attacking me without any knowledge of the events.
it will be a pleasure for me but I cannot promise that it will be short  

I apologize in advance in case you don't like colored text, as I like it, and for some reason the forum gives us the option to format the text as we wish.

I am also glad that you somehow remember that Blackjack.fun and I were in a very friendly environment as I wanted to help find bugs without asking for any bounty and Blackjack.fun was happy about it and even used my bug reports to fix them.

To better understand where the problem was and is, it always helps to walk in my shoes and also in Blackjack.fun's shoes.

I started playing free roll tournaments there because I love Blackjack and I am also a gaming tester and former casino owner.
You could say that I am a Blackjack expert and can give very good advice when asked.

I quickly understood the main problem with the way the tournaments were offered, but this was not the time to tell Blackjack.fun to close their tournaments and redevelop them, so I concentrated on finding some bugs and giving my feedback, which was appreciated by the owner and he even fixed some.


So the day came when a player in a tournament used an exploit that I, as an experienced blackjack player, immediately spotted.
Frankly, I was shocked that the software that I understood had been in beta testing for several years had this exploit.
Now please put on my shoes and think about what you would do. I will tell you what I did and remember, in these tournaments, the winner wins 1USDT.

I did not immediately report this exploit to the owner of Blackjack.fun because I wanted to make sure that it was not a one-time glitch and anyway it was not a 100USDT or more tournament as it was only a 1USDT tournament.
From that point on, I signed up for the tournaments where the player who used the exploit signed up and tried to sit at the same table. I still think it was right and smart to do it that way. He used the exploit over and over again, and he actually taught me, without knowing it, when to use the exploit.
After I was sure when and how to use the exploit, I waited with patience for the exploit to come up against the player who taught me the exploit and I could use it.
Then it happened and now I hope you still have my shoes on  
I used the exploit and I need to explain in more detail and with an example that is not related to Blackjack as I don't want to explain the exploit in detail here, but explains exactly what I did and not as members here are saying that I used the exploit to win the 1USDT tournament   (sorry for my laugh)

My intention was to show the player and the exploiter that I now know the exploit and it would be better if he stopped using it. to be honest I am not a person who yells police police.....
I wanted to report the exploit later, but I would never reveal the player's username. why should he be punished? because he was smart enough to find this exploit or even needs the 1USDT. we don't know where he is from.

When the exploit came out, I could use it once in a game and no one would get suspicious, or I could use it many times in the same game and everyone would see what I was doing, and especially the person who used the exploit would be shocked that the exploit was now known. This is what I have done, as I have used it many times over and over again in the same game. I need to mention that to use the exploit makes only sense at the end of the tourney to have a very big chance to win the tourney.



Let me try to explain it to you with a simple and perhaps silly example.
7 people are sitting at a table in a coffee shop. 10 $100 bills are spread out on the table. I have very fast hands because I am a magician and I take 1 bill and no one pays attention.
In comparison, the blackjack player who used the exploit once to win the tournament would be stupid to do it again in the same game as it makes no sense even he could do it and he might get caught by other players.
back to the table in the coffee shop where I grabbed a $100 bill and no one saw it. but I did it again and again which means I grabbed 1 bill and another bill and another bill. so few or all 7 at the table saw what I did. what did they do? they called the police to file a complaint.

This is what happened when I used the exploit and intentionally exaggerated few players or only one complaint to the owner of Blackjack.fun. The Blackjack.fun owner did not know my username on the tables as he knew only Jackpotracer from his thread in the forum.

When I tried to log in to the site to check the tournaments and see if the player, who now knows that I know the exploit, is using it again, I was shown the KYC page for Blackjack.fun.
I DMed the owner and asked why I get the KYC site and asked kindly to remove it. he then asked me what is my username
and when telling him my username his answer was

"Ahaa, you got it because you abused the bug in blackjack tournaments of course. As you saw other players complained about you."
I did not see that any user complaint about me! how could I and if yes I would be happy that they saw it.
the he asked me and please understand that he is the developer
"What was the bug and how did you reset the timer?"

he is asking me I did not tell him as he played stupid and did not want to let me back to the site without KYC. why KYC if I did not ask for any withdrawal I had about 30 USDT there. I helped him and did not do it for the money. so insisting on doing KYC for nothing but helping him, sorry this was very strange and unfair behavior.

then it started to get worse and another DM I got was
"We need around 50+ ppl on tournaments to actually test the software. Big amount of ppl will never take part of the tourney where reward is 1usdt. Very logical. Other players got very mad because you didnt let them play in the table and reset the timer  on 1 usdt tables. This is how you collected (at least partly) the funds right? Devs havent checked the exact logs yet. Better to focus on development.

Amounts are very small and it is not about the money of course. If it is about the 24 usdt for you then we can take kyc down till you make a withdrawal."

Now he is actually saying that players are complaining that I did not let them play because I used the exploit. Yes, I used the exploit in such an exaggerated way that they must have seen it. he should be happy that I found it and exposed it! the original user did not expose it because no one complained for years.
then he admits that the devs and I know that he is the developer had not the time to check the game logs. I asked so many times to check the game logs so he can see how many times I used the exploit to win 24USDT LOL but why didnt he check the logs? if he would check the logs he would see that I did it once but many times after the other in same game and he would see that the other player used it more than once in every tournament he played. why is or was he not interested in checking the logs and proving it?

yes that is the big question!!!!! I have my theories.

at one stage I got another DM saying:
"If you create a document of the bugs and suggestions we can reward you with 100 USDT as a one time deal. That would actually make things faster. Most of the bugs we already know. Just need to know when exactly the bugs apper. We could save some funds instead of creating bigger tournaments. But it can work only if you have a good attitude with us. Otherwise it is impossible to communicate."

Now he wanted to buy me even I told him I am not in for the money. As no one can buy I denied the 100USDT proposal and insisted to give the 30USDT he owes me to give it to a Legendary member so he can donate it in a game and rounds riddle or whatever he wants. if he would do this all would be over and no Scam accusation.

That is it as I have to stop myself as I could go on and on as I have many more DMs to show how they behaved unprofessionally to someone who only wanted to help and was not in it for the money.
anyway sorry that it was a very long answer at the end  

if you have any questions if I confused you please ask and it be a pleasure to answer.

All other members, please keep your attacks and insults to yourself and read and try to understand both sides by walking in the shoes of both of us.

Thanks and Cheers

edit:
few minutes later as I forgot to mention that all this because of as they say they owe me 24USDT and I say which I even did not ask to withdraw

Quoting.

Thank you for the long response and to try to portrait an idea about what happened so far.

tl;dr;
It's the bug the other guy abused and you discovered it later. You informed them but it was them (Eva and blackjack team) who then blamed you to use the bug to take advantage. Money is not the concern for you, all you want is the bug to be fixed so that players have fair ground on the tables.

I think, none of it matters now what matter is, have blackjack fixed the bug or it is still exists?

Thank you again.

[JackpotRacer]

Thank you for the long response and to try to portrait an idea about what happened so far.

tl;dr;
It's the bug the other guy abused and you discovered it later. You informed them but it was them (Eva and blackjack team) who then blamed you to use the bug to take advantage. Money is not the concern for you, all you want is the bug to be fixed so that players have fair ground on the tables.

I think, none of it matters now what matter is, have blackjack fixed the bug or it is still exists?

Thank you again.

Thank you for keeping the discussion on topic and to the point. Much appreciated, as you are one of the few. (sad)

Please let me call the bug an exploit, as many think that a bug is something small. It is exactly as you briefly explained. That was my intention.

I have no problem with them accusing me of using the exploit to win whatever amount of money if they can prove it. But many times I asked them to check the game logs and prove it, but they didn't. What is interesting is that they never talked about the guy who was using this exploit long before I found it, because he is, or at least was, one of the real abusers of this exploit.

Anyway, I never asked for a payout and only after their unprofessional behavior towards me I asked to donate the money as I described in the last post. I don't see anything wrong with that as they could apologize and donate the 24-30USDT and all would be over. But let's not forget that they have to fix the exploit and prove that they fixed it. But that is their problem and they would be smart to do it.

I hope you don't mind that I texted in green color.

Cheers

Long story short, they gave you a way to cash out without the KYC, but you refused.  They even offered you a $100 bug bounty which you also declined.  I really don't get what you want from them at this point?

I wrote it above but for you I write it again

Anyway, I never asked for a payout and only after their unprofessional behavior towards me I asked to donate the money as I described in the last post. I don't see anything wrong with that as they could apologize and donate the 24-30USDT and all would be over.

[dimonstration]

I wrote it above but for you I write it again

Anyway, I never asked for a payout and only after their unprofessional behavior towards me I asked to donate the money as I described in the last post. I don't see anything wrong with that as they could apologize and donate the 24-30USDT and all would be over.

I remember reading your previous conversation with them that they are already willing to negotiate with you. I really doubt that they will not agree for a mere 30USDT donation of yours just to settle with you while they shown already a sign of cooperation just to make this issue finished.

Can you clarify this. If they will do this offer yours, Will you stop badgering them? I’m already confused why your case escalated like this if the amount involved is as small like this. 

[JackpotRacer]

I wrote it above but for you I write it again

Anyway, I never asked for a payout and only after their unprofessional behavior towards me I asked to donate the money as I described in the last post. I don't see anything wrong with that as they could apologize and donate the 24-30USDT and all would be over.

I remember reading your previous conversation with them that they are already willing to negotiate with you. I really doubt that they will not agree for a mere 30USDT donation of yours just to settle with you while they shown already a sign of cooperation just to make this issue finished.

Can you clarify this. If they will do this offer yours, Will you stop badgering them? I’m already confused why your case escalated like this if the amount involved is as small like this. 

appreciate the friendly discussion with you

I wrote in my last answer very clear and understandable what I am asking for and IMHO it needs no additional confirmation. but I have no problem to confirm it to you as you asked very politely. You overlooked that it is not only the 30USDT donation as it is also an Apology that they falsely accused me of trying to steal or exploit their game!

Yes, is it not very strange that Blackjack.fun let it come to this terrible situation? You have to ask them why they did it, not me.

Cheers

[dimonstration]

I wrote it above but for you I write it again

Anyway, I never asked for a payout and only after their unprofessional behavior towards me I asked to donate the money as I described in the last post. I don't see anything wrong with that as they could apologize and donate the 24-30USDT and all would be over.

I remember reading your previous conversation with them that they are already willing to negotiate with you. I really doubt that they will not agree for a mere 30USDT donation of yours just to settle with you while they shown already a sign of cooperation just to make this issue finished.

Can you clarify this. If they will do this offer yours, Will you stop badgering them? I’m already confused why your case escalated like this if the amount involved is as small like this.  

appreciate the friendly discussion with you

I wrote in my last answer very clear and understandable what I am asking for and IMHO it needs no additional confirmation. but I have no problem to confirm it to you as you asked very politely. You overlooked that it is not only the 30USDT donation as it is also an Apology that they falsely accused me of trying to steal or exploit their game!

Yes, is it not very strange that Blackjack.fun let it come to this terrible situation? You have to ask them why they did it, not me.

Cheers

Your issue become escalated and it’s very hard to follow anymore for user like me that doesn’t have interest on drama here but your demand is really if you are just asking for that apology and the small amount which I can do instantly without damaging the brand. Blackjack.fun also confirmed the bug that you discovered.

But I have no right to decide though since it’s all about sticking to their principle. I believe this issue can be resolved fairly if both you and the casino will talk properly with the intention of understanding each other.

This is just a minor issue for both of you if you will just listen to each other. @blackjackfun what do you think?

@jackpotracer but you should apologize too since you already damaged their brand with this consistent aggressive post against them just to prove your point.

Maybe start a generous giveaway after this?  

[JackpotRacer]

Your issue become escalated and it’s very hard to follow anymore for user like me that doesn’t have interest on drama here but your demand is really if you are just asking for that apology and the small amount which I can do instantly without damaging the brand. Blackjack.fun also confirmed the bug that you discovered.

To be honest, it is not that hard to follow and understand. You and member @BitcoinGirl.Club asked the right questions and tried to understand both sides. The case is really simple and stupid and did not need to escalate if Blackjack.fun had behaved fairly and professionally.
Yes, they confirmed it in a way that I abused the exploit without proving it as they could show the game logs, but yes they confirmed that they fixed it, which I only believe after I tested it myself. but that is not the problem anymore for me, as I will not help them again to get a fair blackjack tournament. They missed out

But I have no right to decide though since it’s all about sticking to their principle. I believe this issue can be resolved fairly if both you and the casino will talk properly with the intention of understanding each other.

Of course you have no say, but in any case I appreciate your straightforward effort and understanding. It means you are one of the decent, very polite and intelligent members here and not a signature spammer! I really mean it and I already know that some will say that I kiss ass but I don't because I can prove that I always say what I think and no one can buy me.
You are absolutely right that the issue could be resolved fairly now and long ago. The ball is in Blackjack.fun's court. I told them a long time ago what I think about solving the problem they actually created. I only wanted to help them without any bounty.

This is just a minor issue for both of you if you will just listen to each other. @blackjackfun what do you think?

As I said above I have no problem if Blackjack.fun will apologize and donate the about 30USDT even in their name in game and rounds in a simple contest but they need to tell that it is a well meant free contest to win 30USDT to bury the grudge with them and Jackpotracer.

@jackpotracer but you should apologize too since you already damaged their brand with this consistent aggressive post against them just to prove your point.

Sorry, but here we have a problem, because I don't agree with you. I have no reason to apologize because the chronology of events shows that Blackjack.fun started it and until today they are attacking me and made that many members attacked me by taking their side and even gave me red trust.
to be frank I don't care about read trust or merits as I don't participate in any Signature Campaign I only have my own signature. I know how to handle customers of a casino as I had one and I will explain a bit more at the end. though not a must to read it but you gave me now a good chance to talk about it as it is quite similar to this problem

Maybe start a generous giveaway after this?  

In fact, I am working on a skill game, and when it is finished and in beta, I will offer a free giveaway for tournament participants.

Now a little more about me and how I treated members and players in my casino many years ago and everyone can read back in old threads. By the way, even back then I used colored text in my threads and no one complained because maybe I was generously given BTC/Sats Rain. Just check my postings in my profile and you will find many game and rounds no chance to lose giveaways ( in colored text) 

It was a Moneypot platform (one of the best ideas) casino and I was the first to call out their rug pull scam and I was attacked like here by the owners and their followers and their double registered accounts. all the owners gave me red trust and is still in there even they pulled the rug as I shouted it out.

My idea to attract players and customers was that everyone who was in my chat room during a Jackpot hit was eligible to get a %age of the Jackpot. When a player hit a Jackpot of 72 BTC I gave a rain of 8 BTC to the chat room members present when it happened.
My idea to attract players and customers was that everyone who was in my chat room during a jackpot hit was eligible to receive a %age of the jackpot. When a player hit a jackpot of 72 BTC, I gave a rain of 7.37 BTC to the chat room members who were present when it happened.

Here the link to see the 7.37 BTC rain and in colored text just members will see that I used colored text many years ago without any complaints.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1508394.msg16636073#msg16636073

Here a Poll of the monthly best casino we had the 3rd rank and check out what casinos where in the Poll
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1640562.msg16501095#msg16501095

No one can take this away from me as I had a very popular casino in those times



this should show that I have enough knowledge of casino games


@dimonstration thank you again for your fair behavior

Cheers

[willi9974]

Short Question:

is a account creation, deposit and withdrawal from Germany with a german IP address without KYC possible or need one of this points a KYC?

Best regards
Willi

[Mahdirakib]

is a account creation, deposit and withdrawal from Germany with a german IP address without KYC possible or need one of this points a KYC?

Germany isn’t in the restricted country list of Blackjack.fun. Therefore, you are allowed to create an account with German IP. KYC isn't mandatory at Blackjack.fun, but they may make it compulsory for a user when the total deposit amount reaches 2k EUR (based on KYC policy). And they may request it any time if there is anything suspicious.

[willi9974]

is a account creation, deposit and withdrawal from Germany with a german IP address without KYC possible or need one of this points a KYC?

Germany isn’t in the restricted country list of Blackjack.fun. Therefore, you are allowed to create an account with German IP. KYC isn't mandatory at Blackjack.fun, but they may make it compulsory for a user when the total deposit amount reaches 2k EUR (based on KYC policy). And they may request it any time if there is anything suspicious.

Yes but the bold text mean, each withdrawal must be proceed the KYC process, right?

When a user makes an aggregate lifetime total of deposits exceeding EUR 2000 or requests a withdrawal of any amount inside the https://blackjack.fun Platform, then it is compulsory for them to perform a full KYC process. During this process, the user will have to input some basic details about themselves and then upload

A copy of Government Issued Photo ID (in some cases front and back depending on the doc)
A selfie of themselves holding the ID doc
A bank statement/Utility Bill

[blackjack.fun]

We usually conduct KYC checks only if players have duplicate accounts, engage in cheating or bonus abuse, exhibit a very poor attitude, or participate in specific campaigns.

Aria