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August 27, 2020, 09:10:03 PM
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Quick question on MSI rebates... their current August promotion reflects the following fine print:

"Limit one rebate card per product line per person, address, and household"

Am i right in assuming this means the following:

- If i buy 3 5700XT Mech GPUs, I will only be able to claim 1 $20 rebate

but

- If i buy 1 5700XT Mech, 1 5700 (non XT) MEch, and 1 5700XT Gaming, I will be able to claim 3x $20 rebates?

Do i have that right?
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August 27, 2020, 10:54:18 PM
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Quick question on MSI rebates... their current August promotion reflects the following fine print:

"Limit one rebate card per product line per person, address, and household"

Am i right in assuming this means the following:

- If i buy 3 5700XT Mech GPUs, I will only be able to claim 1 $20 rebate

There's actually two different rebates.  One is specifically only for newegg.  The other one is for microcenter,bestbuy,frys and newegg.  If you bought two cards from newegg, you could get two rebates, but if you bought it from some other place, then only one.

but

- If i buy 1 5700XT Mech, 1 5700 (non XT) MEch, and 1 5700XT Gaming, I will be able to claim 3x $20 rebates?

Do i have that right?

Yes... all three, since the rebates are by upc codes and each product has a different upc.   also the same thing from above applies, so potentially 6 rebates if you bought all from newegg.... potentially
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August 27, 2020, 11:05:12 PM
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I like the six card or eight card riser free racks.

I use a piece of mdf under them. I raise the mobo with Eight screws and eight plastic spacers.

i hold the gpus in place with a piece of aluminum angle and some pipe straps.

i had six old mobos three were six card three were eight card.

that is room for 3 x 6= 18  and 3 x 8 = 24 total of 42 gpus. I space them a bit more so i am using 23 cards.
really easy to do.

I will photo one later tonight.

it is four cards on a six card board. does 150mh and 490 watts at the meter.

2 newegg.      msi 5600
1 provantage. msi 5700
1 dell.             visontek 5500

i had the mobo/cpu/ram and an 850 watt plat rosewill psu.

this rig cost about 1050 for the gpus.

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August 28, 2020, 12:03:22 AM
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I did the exact same as you, basically took a pen tube and cut it in small pieces and used those as the "spacing" between the wood and motherboard.

Love the pen tube idea! What I did on my side is I used self adhesive bumpers and drilled mobo through them.

When i first started my 1st rig, got a nice rack blah blah.... when I decided to go full steam ahead in 2016, speed to deploy was the essence and built the miners around the full height rack itself, with GPUs hanging via metal S hooks.... then when space and GPU density came into play.... I got rid of risers all together and standardized on riserless motherboards like the K35 mostly and a few Oanda, Colorful motherboard variants. You can find the pictures of my open air rigs in one of Phil's thread. One more thing.... the biggest game changer for me was using SMOS and ditching Windows all together... that saved me tons of hours in rig building and babysitting sick rigs on Windoze

Thanks @citronick that is gold. I didn't even know such boards existed! Cheesy Being riserless is sure less expensive as well. I like how you just have to slide GPUs in there and not have to worry about fixing them. Had a look at your rigs and they look pretty slick. K35 seems hard to find, but I've seen a few Oanda mobo/cpu/RAM combos on eBay that aren't expensive, so I'll make sure to look for them for my next rig.

As of SMOS, they don't seem to support GPUs less than 6Gb anymore, so that won't work for my low-end 3Gb rigs. However, I did the math and came to the conclusion I'd better save for 5600/5700/XT instead of spending on anything else moving forward (hopefully I can control my addiction for a while). I'll sure consider SMOS at that point. 2 bucks monthly per rig is a steal... As a miner, if you consider you're paid for your time at an hourly rate just like any job, dealing with Windows issues and endless updates/reboot factor for much more than $24 a year!

Your post would definitely deserve some merit. Sadly, I still can't share the love... But I guess I will at some point! Smiley
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August 28, 2020, 12:20:43 AM
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I did the exact same as you, basically took a pen tube and cut it in small pieces and used those as the "spacing" between the wood and motherboard.

Love the pen tube idea! What I did on my side is I used self adhesive bumpers and drilled mobo through them.

When i first started my 1st rig, got a nice rack blah blah.... when I decided to go full steam ahead in 2016, speed to deploy was the essence and built the miners around the full height rack itself, with GPUs hanging via metal S hooks.... then when space and GPU density came into play.... I got rid of risers all together and standardized on riserless motherboards like the K35 mostly and a few Oanda, Colorful motherboard variants. You can find the pictures of my open air rigs in one of Phil's thread. One more thing.... the biggest game changer for me was using SMOS and ditching Windows all together... that saved me tons of hours in rig building and babysitting sick rigs on Windoze

Thanks @citronick that is gold. I didn't even know such boards existed! Cheesy Being riserless is sure less expensive as well. I like how you just have to slide GPUs in there and not have to worry about fixing them. Had a look at your rigs and they look pretty slick. K35 seems hard to find, but I've seen a few Oanda mobo/cpu/RAM combos on eBay that aren't expensive, so I'll make sure to look for them for my next rig.

As of SMOS, they don't seem to support GPUs less than 6Gb anymore, so that won't work for my low-end 3Gb rigs. However, I did the math and came to the conclusion I'd better save for 5600/5700/XT instead of spending on anything else moving forward (hopefully I can control my addiction for a while). I'll sure consider SMOS at that point. 2 bucks monthly per rig is a steal... As a miner, if you consider you're paid for your time at an hourly rate just like any job, dealing with Windows issues and endless updates/reboot factor for much more than $24 a year!

Your post would definitely deserve some merit. Sadly, I still can't share the love... But I guess I will at some point! Smiley

Here are some points to give away. I will post my rig in a few.
4 cards 150 mhs 489 watts at the meter


      msi 5600
      msi 5600
      msi 5700
visiontek 5500



smos 153mhs and 466 watts software



actual meter  489 watts.




The gear is pretty efficient better then my 1080tis

500 watts is 12 kwatts a day

so    

$2.40 a day in power if you are 20 cent power
$1.80 a day in power if you are 15 cent power
$1.20 a day in power if you are 10 cent power
$0.96 a day in power if you are  8 cent  power
$0.72 a day in power if you are  6 cent  power
$0.48 a day in power if you are  4 cent  power

this rig is earning 4-6 a day. so it is not great at my house in the summer,

 but at the farm I get 2-4 a day. which is 250-500 day payback. and all the gear has three year warranty.

I would argue getting one rig four cards is fine if you don't have a lot of gear.

I had my old gear and added two thousand in new gear. it should pay off in three months since i have enough old gear.

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August 28, 2020, 08:11:39 AM
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Quick question on MSI rebates... their current August promotion reflects the following fine print:

"Limit one rebate card per product line per person, address, and household"

Am i right in assuming this means the following:

- If i buy 3 5700XT Mech GPUs, I will only be able to claim 1 $20 rebate

There's actually two different rebates.  One is specifically only for newegg.  The other one is for microcenter,bestbuy,frys and newegg.  If you bought two cards from newegg, you could get two rebates, but if you bought it from some other place, then only one.

but

- If i buy 1 5700XT Mech, 1 5700 (non XT) MEch, and 1 5700XT Gaming, I will be able to claim 3x $20 rebates?

Do i have that right?

Yes... all three, since the rebates are by upc codes and each product has a different upc.   also the same thing from above applies, so potentially 6 rebates if you bought all from newegg.... potentially
nah they never do that, they don’t care about upc codes , when you fill the rebate form you put your mail address, its as it says 1 per address
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August 28, 2020, 09:05:35 AM
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Quick question on MSI rebates... their current August promotion reflects the following fine print:

"Limit one rebate card per product line per person, address, and household"

Am i right in assuming this means the following:

- If i buy 3 5700XT Mech GPUs, I will only be able to claim 1 $20 rebate

There's actually two different rebates.  One is specifically only for newegg.  The other one is for microcenter,bestbuy,frys and newegg.  If you bought two cards from newegg, you could get two rebates, but if you bought it from some other place, then only one.

but

- If i buy 1 5700XT Mech, 1 5700 (non XT) MEch, and 1 5700XT Gaming, I will be able to claim 3x $20 rebates?

Do i have that right?

Yes... all three, since the rebates are by upc codes and each product has a different upc.   also the same thing from above applies, so potentially 6 rebates if you bought all from newegg.... potentially
nah they never do that, they don’t care about upc codes , when you fill the rebate form you put your mail address, its as it says 1 per address

it's one rebate per product... the rebate form even states Limit (13) rebate card(s) per address
so with this one rebate https://msi.rebateaccess.com/promotion.php?p=91454 you can get 13 rebates on 13 different cards... this rebate form is for NEWEGG.COM, NEWEGGBUSINESS.COM only for August.

There's another rebate form  for August https://msi.rebateaccess.com/promotion.php?p=91452 which list: AMAZON.COM,B & H PHOTO AND VIDEO,BEST BUY, BHPHOTOVIDEO.COM, FRY'S ELECTRONICS, FRYS.COM, MICRO CENTER, MICROCENTER.COM, NEWEGG.COM, OUTLETPC.COM... (these are copy and pasted, i wasn't spending the extra effort to change cap size)

So that's a potential 26 rebate...  the rebates also require serial numbers so i'm assuming you would only be able to get one rebate per card and not two rebates per one card.  though the rebate forms don't explicitly prohibit that.. i might try it with the 5600XT i got from Newegg... maybe  Grin

I got two rebates for the June.  One from Amazon for MSI 5700 Mech OC and one from Newegg for an MSI 5700 Mech OC.
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August 28, 2020, 02:11:25 PM
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Here are some points to give away. I will post my rig in a few.

Thanks a lot @philipma1957! Shared some love.

Nice carpet btw!  Grin
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August 28, 2020, 02:38:30 PM
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I've seen a few Oanda mobo/cpu/RAM combos on eBay that aren't expensive, so I'll make sure to look for them for my next rig.

i have an Onda D8P (i assume you mean onda not oanda but perhaps im mistaken.) its an 8 full size slot board with 2.5 spacing between slots so 2 slot gpus still have breathing room.  its run flawlessly for years and has had fpgas as well as gpus in it. that model has a socket for the cpu (i threw a pentium g4400 in) and one sodimm slot as well as a msata ssd socket so is very self contained and neat as far as wires etc.

dunno if you can get them now. but it was a game changer from my riser rigs. what a pain riser rigs were when changing things around, cleaning gpus etc. riserless boards for the win.
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August 28, 2020, 04:30:04 PM
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I've seen a few Oanda mobo/cpu/RAM combos on eBay that aren't expensive, so I'll make sure to look for them for my next rig.

i have an Onda D8P (i assume you mean onda not oanda but perhaps im mistaken.) its an 8 full size slot board with 2.5 spacing between slots so 2 slot gpus still have breathing room.  its run flawlessly for years and has had fpgas as well as gpus in it. that model has a socket for the cpu (i threw a pentium g4400 in) and one sodimm slot as well as a msata ssd socket so is very self contained and neat as far as wires etc.

dunno if you can get them now. but it was a game changer from my riser rigs. what a pain riser rigs were when changing things around, cleaning gpus etc. riserless boards for the win.

Yes sorry - I meant Onda. I still has an unused B150 as well as some spare risers, so I guess I'll use that for my next rig. But the next mobo I buy for mining is an Onda. No question! All those USB wires are unaesthetic. Smiley
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August 28, 2020, 05:15:56 PM
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I've seen a few Oanda mobo/cpu/RAM combos on eBay that aren't expensive, so I'll make sure to look for them for my next rig.

i have an Onda D8P (i assume you mean onda not oanda but perhaps im mistaken.) its an 8 full size slot board with 2.5 spacing between slots so 2 slot gpus still have breathing room.  its run flawlessly for years and has had fpgas as well as gpus in it. that model has a socket for the cpu (i threw a pentium g4400 in) and one sodimm slot as well as a msata ssd socket so is very self contained and neat as far as wires etc.

dunno if you can get them now. but it was a game changer from my riser rigs. what a pain riser rigs were when changing things around, cleaning gpus etc. riserless boards for the win.

Yes sorry - I meant Onda. I still has an unused B150 as well as some spare risers, so I guess I'll use that for my next rig. But the next mobo I buy for mining is an Onda. No question! All those USB wires are unaesthetic. Smiley


https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ZA-WKJ1800-DDR3L-onda-motherboard-Onda_60759603861.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.0.0.cc6c15fevwFTBC


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Onda-D1800-BTC-Mining-Motherboard-6-GPU-Intel-J1800-Motherboard-With-Memory/324193321499?
hash=item4b7b6d821b:g:HeMAAOSwTzdexwWt



this one needs a cpu

https://www.amazon.com/BIOSTAR-TB250-BTC-LGA1151-Support-Motherboard/dp/B07B8G5RJC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?


but it can use a server psu

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August 29, 2020, 08:12:33 PM
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Was wondering if anyone here is currently or has been involved in STORJ nodes.  I have over 100TB in HDD just sitting idle since they were mining BURST a few years ago, so looking to put them to work even for a moderate return.  Just curious what some first hand experiences with this has been.
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Was wondering if anyone here is currently or has been involved in STORJ nodes.  I have over 100TB in HDD just sitting idle since they were mining BURST a few years ago, so looking to put them to work even for a moderate return.  Just curious what some first hand experiences with this has been.

No experience myself, but this is a recent and well discussed thread on it (with calculator):  https://forum.storj.io/t/realistic-earnings-estimator/6693
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Was wondering if anyone here is currently or has been involved in STORJ nodes.  I have over 100TB in HDD just sitting idle since they were mining BURST a few years ago, so looking to put them to work even for a moderate return.  Just curious what some first hand experiences with this has been.

No experience myself, but this is a recent and well discussed thread on it (with calculator):  https://forum.storj.io/t/realistic-earnings-estimator/6693

I never got around to it I am interested if you try it let us know

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I feel dumb asking such a seemingly simple question, but sold my gpus a year and a half ago and thinking about testing the waters now that eth mining seems to be somewhat profitable. Currently mining my 1650 super that I had bought for personal use and I have room for 3 more cards in my case.  What are the thoughts on the RX 580?  Looks like the 8 GB models can be had for around $125ish with about 30 Mh/s.  Are these a good buy or is there something I am missing?
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I feel dumb asking such a seemingly simple question, but sold my gpus a year and a half ago and thinking about testing the waters now that eth mining seems to be somewhat profitable. Currently mining my 1650 super that I had bought for personal use and I have room for 3 more cards in my case.  What are the thoughts on the RX 580?  Looks like the 8 GB models can be had for around $125ish with about 30 Mh/s.  Are these a good buy or is there something I am missing?
  power hungry look for 8gb 5500  they do 28 mhs and lower power look for visiontek 8gb model

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I feel dumb asking such a seemingly simple question, but sold my gpus a year and a half ago and thinking about testing the waters now that eth mining seems to be somewhat profitable. Currently mining my 1650 super that I had bought for personal use and I have room for 3 more cards in my case.  What are the thoughts on the RX 580?  Looks like the 8 GB models can be had for around $125ish with about 30 Mh/s.  Are these a good buy or is there something I am missing?
  power hungry look for 8gb 5500  they do 28 mhs and lower power look for visiontek 8gb model

back home. i know where to get the 8gb visiontek in the usa for 191

i will pm you a link if you ask me.

they use much less power then the 580

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August 30, 2020, 10:30:24 AM
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im looking for 6 x 5700's for a rig.  all the usual sources(retail) to expensive.  any suggestions on who or where
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August 30, 2020, 03:07:38 PM
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5600XT 39.5mhs@74w gpu-z, 135w total rig at the wall power Gold PSU, 40w total rig power idle, so roughly total 100w for the GPU.  2.53 watts/hash.  VS Polaris closer to 4w/mhs.  50-60% improvement in efficiency easy.  I call that a win.  Now price per mhs thats another story...Honestly can't wait to see what the 80cu Navi RDNA2 will look like, i.e. "big navi".
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5600XT 39.5mhs@74w gpu-z, 135w total rig at the wall power Gold PSU, 40w total rig power idle, so roughly total 100w for the GPU.  2.53 watts/hash.  VS Polaris closer to 4w/mhs.  50-60% improvement in efficiency easy.  I call that a win.  Now price per mhs thats another story...Honestly can't wait to see what the 80cu Navi RDNA2 will look like, i.e. "big navi".

radeon VII can do 100mhs, big navi should do more than that.

lol at nvidia 3080 at 10gb and 3090 at 24gb and no 16gb middle ground hehe, if 3090 can't do 100mhs or more maybe big navi will be my next upgrade.
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