Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby!

[adaseb]

You know when we are in bull market when phil started posting gpu rig pictures again hehe

I agree. Another one is when mining is so profitable that you need to get it hooked up ASAP. So instead of mounting it properly on a open air rig, you just leave the motherboard on the motherboard box and cram as many GPUs as you can in there.

I remember I had so many rigs set up Like this in the past. I stopped doing it when I realized that there NorthBridge (or southbridge) on the motherboard can actually get very hot and if it’s laying flat there is no ventilation and things can go badly. However according to the hundreds of amateur mining setups I’ve seen in the past I am not the only one guilty of this.

[arielbit]

You know when we are in bull market when phil started posting gpu rig pictures again hehe

I agree. Another one is when mining is so profitable that you need to get it hooked up ASAP. So instead of mounting it properly on a open air rig, you just leave the motherboard on the motherboard box and cram as many GPUs as you can in there.

I remember I had so many rigs set up Like this in the past. I stopped doing it when I realized that there NorthBridge (or southbridge) on the motherboard can actually get very hot and if it’s laying flat there is no ventilation and things can go badly. However according to the hundreds of amateur mining setups I’ve seen in the past I am not the only one guilty of this.

didn't experienced that phase in my mining past since i bought surplus/older boards so they didn't come with boxes so i used nuts and bolts, they are useful to elevate the board so the GPU brackets will not hit the floor and later on those nuts and bolts became useful when i hang some of the boards to the wall (no risk of shorting, cement might short something).

nuts and bolts are sturdier to operate on, imagine pressing a RAM module and PSU connections on top of a board on a box, later on that box will get squished in time hehe

[adaseb]

Well looks like the Antminer E3, the very first DaggerHashimoto ASIC, has transitioned into a door-stop pretty much. With new DAG released a few hours ago, Epoch #380, there are reports that E3 stopped mining ETH, even with the updated firmware.

You would think they would switch and mine ETC instead? Turns out ETC don't want E3 on their network either and they are incompatible with the slightly different ETC algo with lower DAG.

Looking at,
https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate

Shows pretty much almost no hashrate change. Maybe give it a day or 2 to settle. Really wondering how many of these E3 were actually produced. I remember when they were first released, people were saying that "Bitmain produced enough to cause a 51% attack" wonder if that was actually the case.

[Marvell2]

Well looks like the Antminer E3, the very first DaggerHashimoto ASIC, has transitioned into a door-stop pretty much. With new DAG released a few hours ago, Epoch #380, there are reports that E3 stopped mining ETH, even with the updated firmware.

You would think they would switch and mine ETC instead? Turns out ETC don't want E3 on their network either and they are incompatible with the slightly different ETC algo with lower DAG.

Looking at,
https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate

Shows pretty much almost no hashrate change. Maybe give it a day or 2 to settle. Really wondering how many of these E3 were actually produced. I remember when they were first released, people were saying that "Bitmain produced enough to cause a 51% attack" wonder if that was actually the case.

some one said the big farms were upgrading thier e3 with bitmain help , and i know the innosilicon one has more mem, lik 6? those are really the majority of asics ,  the 3 hasn’t been sold for 3 years now?

[philipma1957]

There are very likely hidden e4's same design with 8gb ram. Made a bit more efficient then a  nvidia 3080 or  an amd 5700.

[666mrga999]

There are very likely hidden e4's same design with 8gb ram. Made a bit more efficient then a  nvidia 3080 or  an amd 5700.

Probably Innosilicon A10, 750MHs...

[philipma1957]

There are very likely hidden e4's same design with 8gb ram. Made a bit more efficient then a  nvidia 3080 or  an amd 5700.

Probably Innosilicon A10, 750MHs...

Exactly  below is the standard A10 pro quote is from innosilicon web site.


"Innosilicon A10 Pro ETH miner with 6G memory is an upgraded version optimized for ETH mining, performing with a power-efficient hash rate of 500MH/S at 950W.

Hashrate: 500MH/s (±5%)
Power Consumption: 950W(±10%, on wall, with 93% efficiency PSU, 25℃ temperature)
Dimensions: (L)360mm*(W)136mm*(H)282mm
Net Weight: 8.6Kg
Internet connection: Ethernet
Ambient Temperature: 0°C to 40°C

Please note that they are not new miners and after upgrading the machine may not be refurbished, if you expect a high-standard appearance, your discretion is strongly advised. Once the order is placed, it will be deemed as an acceptance.

Notice:
Please make sure your farm use proper cooling, dust filter and 10A AC cable to meet the proper operating condition requirements.
Humidity <75%, AC voltage 210~240V, Power supply AC input current 10A, dust <0.5 Mg/m3."

500mh at 950 watts just beats the 3080 which is 95mh at 220 watts  5x is 475mh at 1100 watts.  if you paid 800 a 3080 it is 4000 plus mobo psu ram ssd


if the a10 plus does. 750 at 1350 watts with 8g ram and they don't sell it just yet they make a deal with a farm

the hash rate will be stable at 300th as the a10+ picks up all the dropped out 4g cards.

It is why I am not going way over the 60 cards I now have.

[DigitalFarns]

Good morning. Here are the images of the motherboard on my old computer.  The computer itself is an early i7 with 8GB ram.  I see one PCI slot, and two PCIe slots - I believe I saw a youtube video showing installing a riser in the PCIe slot and putting a card in there.  As for the PCI-16 (blue one), I'm unfamiliar with that interface, so not sure if that would be useful.  The cards presently in the PCIe slots are not needed - one is a video capture, and one is a usb hub.  Obviously the whole thing needs careful and thorough cleaning.  It has a 128GB SSD and I'm running Windows 7 on it I believe. 

Would you say then, that I could drive a total of 3 Video cards on this machine?  If I did, would I want to remove everything from the case to get a more open-air feel that I've seen in various pics and videos here to keep things operating cooler? 

Images linked here:
https://imgur.com/DOsol7x
https://imgur.com/Tvr7FAQ

[favebook]

Good morning. Here are the images of the motherboard on my old computer.  The computer itself is an early i7 with 8GB ram.  I see one PCI slot, and two PCIe slots - I believe I saw a youtube video showing installing a riser in the PCIe slot and putting a card in there.  As for the PCI-16 (blue one), I'm unfamiliar with that interface, so not sure if that would be useful.  The cards presently in the PCIe slots are not needed - one is a video capture, and one is a usb hub.  Obviously the whole thing needs careful and thorough cleaning.  It has a 128GB SSD and I'm running Windows 7 on it I believe. 

Would you say then, that I could drive a total of 3 Video cards on this machine?  If I did, would I want to remove everything from the case to get a more open-air feel that I've seen in various pics and videos here to keep things operating cooler? 

Images linked here:
https://imgur.com/DOsol7x
https://imgur.com/Tvr7FAQ

I'd rather build a new rig than deal with Win7 and that old of Mobo. While you could buy 3 PCIe risers and plug in three cards, I wouldn't recommend it unless you really only want to learn how to do it. If you are looking for profit, build a new rig(s) with Mobo(s) made for mining, it will make your life easier. Also, please get Win10/Linux or use one of OS made for mining like NicehashOS.

[DigitalFarns]

Ok, thank you for the feedback. Definitely would be primarily to cut my teeth on, and trying to take advantage of some hardware already laying around.  But if it's just a big step backwards, then maybe it's not worth going that route.  Thank you for giving me that side to consider. 

[miner29]

Ok, thank you for the feedback. Definitely would be primarily to cut my teeth on, and trying to take advantage of some hardware already laying around.  But if it's just a big step backwards, then maybe it's not worth going that route.  Thank you for giving me that side to consider. 

You can try one of the many linux based mining OS's that run from the thumbdrive mmpos / hive / simple / rave etc.

I dont know about all of them but mmpos doesnt charge any fees for up to 8 gpus ...ever.

Would be trivial to get the board mining most likely.  If it is too old for those...Ethos can probably handle it but it is not free or as easy to use as some of the more modern up to date mining OS.

[arielbit]

Ok, thank you for the feedback. Definitely would be primarily to cut my teeth on, and trying to take advantage of some hardware already laying around.  But if it's just a big step backwards, then maybe it's not worth going that route.  Thank you for giving me that side to consider. 

It will work, get a good PSU and riser.

I still have q6600, 6gb ddr2,  80gb sata on win7 with 3x riser bought in 2013 with 3x 1080ti running.

[fr4nkthetank]

old stuff that works is the best stuff because its already paid for, go for it i dont see why a 3 card setup wouldnt work.

[DigitalFarns]

Is this the kind of board you guys are talking about then - this looks like it's built for exactly mining and no other real practical purpose? What else could one need 13 video cards for?  LOL

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-H110-Mining-Motherboard-Cryptocurrency/dp/B073BX57M1/ref=asc_df_B073BX57M1/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309751315916&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10107625573898219965&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029770&hvtargid=pla-347405738382&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=67183599252&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309751315916&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10107625573898219965&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029770&hvtargid=pla-347405738382

[arielbit]

Is this the kind of board you guys are talking about then - this looks like it's built for exactly mining and no other real practical purpose? What else could one need 13 video cards for?  LOL

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-H110-Mining-Motherboard-Cryptocurrency/dp/B073BX57M1/ref=asc_df_B073BX57M1/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309751315916&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10107625573898219965&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029770&hvtargid=pla-347405738382&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=67183599252&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309751315916&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10107625573898219965&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029770&hvtargid=pla-347405738382

It can be used for desktop, there is dvi for monitor.

Some people want to cram a lot of gpu in a board. Imagine finding a faulty riser cable x13, riser board x13, gpu x13, pcie socket x13, power connectors to riser x13 and power connectors to gpu x13.

Thats 13 x 6 = 78 possible area where the fuck up is...excluding the system. Never bought one, never owned one ever since this kind of boards are made.

[bmoscato]

Is this the kind of board you guys are talking about then - this looks like it's built for exactly mining and no other real practical purpose? What else could one need 13 video cards for?  LOL

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-H110-Mining-Motherboard-Cryptocurrency/dp/B073BX57M1/ref=asc_df_B073BX57M1/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309751315916&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10107625573898219965&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029770&hvtargid=pla-347405738382&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=67183599252&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309751315916&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10107625573898219965&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029770&hvtargid=pla-347405738382

The fun part will be trying to find reasonably priced cards to fill that with... everything is overpriced. I was looking at RX 5700 XT's and some vendors are selling them for over $750. I paid right around $400 for each of mine a few months ago.

[DigitalFarns]

Right.  I'm looking at cards now and based on models that I see people recommending, it could be 4 or 5 grand just to get a handful of them.  And though that board can fit 13 cards, there is a note saying windows 10 only supports 8 for now...  I'm wondering if some of those mining-specific OS somebody mentioned overcomes that?  Does that get installed instead of windows?  Honestly I'm not savvy at all on things like Linux or mac.  I'm a windows guy pretty much only.  So I guess a question to consider, is spending $5k to mine 8 or so ETH in a year, or just spend $5k to buy 8 or so ETH and then go play angry birds LOL.

Here's another detail I haven't been able to sort out in my reading on this topic.  Say I do build up to 8 GPUs on a rig.  Are they are synced together and functioning as 1 miner, or are they all 8 independent miners?  Do they all work on the same coin or are you able to do a couple on this coin and a couple on that coin, etc... ?  (I understand in general, that different coins fall under different algorithms, though I haven't really made a list of those to help me out yet.  I need to. )

[miner29]

Right.  I'm looking at cards now and based on models that I see people recommending, it could be 4 or 5 grand just to get a handful of them.  And though that board can fit 13 cards, there is a note saying windows 10 only supports 8 for now...  I'm wondering if some of those mining-specific OS somebody mentioned overcomes that?  Does that get installed instead of windows?  Honestly I'm not savvy at all on things like Linux or mac.  I'm a windows guy pretty much only.  So I guess a question to consider, is spending $5k to mine 8 or so ETH in a year, or just spend $5k to buy 8 or so ETH and then go play angry birds LOL.

Here's another detail I haven't been able to sort out in my reading on this topic.  Say I do build up to 8 GPUs on a rig.  Are they are synced together and functioning as 1 miner, or are they all 8 independent miners?  Do they all work on the same coin or are you able to do a couple on this coin and a couple on that coin, etc... ?  (I understand in general, that different coins fall under different algorithms, though I haven't really made a list of those to help me out yet.  I need to. )

Yes get a mining os based on linux.  most will run off a thumbdrive.  no problem to run 13 gpus.  you wont need a hard drive and most will work in 4 or 8gb total ram.  Some like mmpos will let you mix cards or all same team...no problem.Why people insist of windows....its ok if your using your gaming machine to mine when not gaming...but for rigs...go linux or go home.

[rdluffy]

Does that get installed instead of windows?  Honestly I'm not savvy at all on things like Linux or mac.  I'm a windows guy pretty much only.

Here's another detail I haven't been able to sort out in my reading on this topic.  Say I do build up to 8 GPUs on a rig.  Are they are synced together and functioning as 1 miner, or are they all 8 independent miners?  Do they all work on the same coin or are you able to do a couple on this coin and a couple on that coin, etc... ?  (I understand in general, that different coins fall under different algorithms, though I haven't really made a list of those to help me out yet.  I need to. )

It's not impossible to get more than 13 GPUs on windows, but trust me, it's not for everyone, and it will probably get you a headache trying to deal with a lot of cards in the same rig
Here's an interest video os BBT carter doing 21GPUs on windows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9tP74SjnBs

To be efficient, it's better to get a Linux based os for mining, it's simple to deal, in a few minutes you're mining and it's good for mixed rigs
Windows worth if you're using as a PC while mining (like many of us here), and windows have an advantage you can use your PC to stake some coins...

And another tip, it's easier to deal with 5 or maximum 6 GPUs rigs, in my experience 5 is the good spot, I remember my +6 GPUs rigs, lots of problems, hard to keep running 24/7 without any effort

And about you question of miners, you can have an 8 GPUs rig and have 8 miner programs running different algos, or you can have all GPUs mining in only 1 miner, or even have all AMDs running 1 miner and all Nvidias running another algo...

[adaseb]

This reminds me of when I started mining in 2014... was cheap and didn't want to buy more motherboards+cpu+ram that I decided to use one from like 2002 or 2003 or so. So I had some old old motherboard which had some pentium 4 processor and luckily it had 1 PCIe slot. So I decided to put in a brand new R9 280X into the slot and for some reason it didn't work. So I put in an older gpu like an Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx series and to my surprise it worked. Hashed at the exact same speed as a brand new i5 system pretty much.

Then I discovered that it had a 1x port also, so I orderd some risers and decided to hook up 2 GPUs to this decade and a half old system. To my surprise the second GPU worked. And the hashing speed was the same as in a regular i3/i5 system. Ran great for 1 day and then BAM! Some capacitor exploded on the motherboard and it never worked again.

It ran for like 2-3 weeks with the 1 GPU however with the second GPU it stressed some components and killed the motherboard. Hopefully the same won't happen to yours.