[INFO]-Crypto Stamps- Collectable Blockchain postage stamps

[fikira12]

Hi!

When a physical stamp is bought on ebay (for example "Code [1]: 4ouHxo"),
is it possible the digital stamp (which is still in the first owner's ETH wallet) can be sold as well to someone else?

Meaning, the stamp "Code [1]: 4ouHxo" is physical sold to person "A" through ebay,
AND "Code [1]: 4ouHxo" is sold as well digitally to person "B" trough "opensea.io"

The same question but regarding a stamp bought trough OnChain-Shop
I own a stamp "Code [1]: 71Qrnr", physical AND digital (in my ETH wallet)

Is it possible to sell "Code [1]: 71Qrnr", physically trough ebay AND
sell "Code [1]: 71Qrnr" digitally trough "opensea.io"?

Just wondering...

Thanks!

Regards

Good question...but wouldn't they have to remove the scratch off from the stamp and sweep the digital code in order to do this?

From a physical perspective, yes, I think so, but the digital examples just is sold through opensea.io, which is perfectly possible,
because it is for example from mine wallet to your wallet, but if I also have the physical stamp, I just can sell this on ebay as well, no?

[krogothmanhattan]

Hi!

When a physical stamp is bought on ebay (for example "Code [1]: 4ouHxo"),
is it possible the digital stamp (which is still in the first owner's ETH wallet) can be sold as well to someone else?

Meaning, the stamp "Code [1]: 4ouHxo" is physical sold to person "A" through ebay,
AND "Code [1]: 4ouHxo" is sold as well digitally to person "B" trough "opensea.io"

The same question but regarding a stamp bought trough OnChain-Shop
I own a stamp "Code [1]: 71Qrnr", physical AND digital (in my ETH wallet)

Is it possible to sell "Code [1]: 71Qrnr", physically trough ebay AND
sell "Code [1]: 71Qrnr" digitally trough "opensea.io"?

Just wondering...

Thanks!

Regards

Good question...but wouldn't they have to remove the scratch off from the stamp and sweep the digital code in order to do this?

From a physical perspective, yes, I think so, but the digital examples just is sold through opensea.io, which is perfectly possible,
because it is for example from mine wallet to your wallet, but if I also have the physical stamp, I just can sell this on ebay as well, no?

You can sell the physical anywhere really...but how do you get to the digital version of the physical stamp is the question no?

[fikira12]

Hi!

When a physical stamp is bought on ebay (for example "Code [1]: 4ouHxo"),
is it possible the digital stamp (which is still in the first owner's ETH wallet) can be sold as well to someone else?

Meaning, the stamp "Code [1]: 4ouHxo" is physical sold to person "A" through ebay,
AND "Code [1]: 4ouHxo" is sold as well digitally to person "B" trough "opensea.io"

The same question but regarding a stamp bought trough OnChain-Shop
I own a stamp "Code [1]: 71Qrnr", physical AND digital (in my ETH wallet)

Is it possible to sell "Code [1]: 71Qrnr", physically trough ebay AND
sell "Code [1]: 71Qrnr" digitally trough "opensea.io"?

Just wondering...

Thanks!

Regards

Good question...but wouldn't they have to remove the scratch off from the stamp and sweep the digital code in order to do this?

From a physical perspective, yes, I think so, but the digital examples just is sold through opensea.io, which is perfectly possible,
because it is for example from mine wallet to your wallet, but if I also have the physical stamp, I just can sell this on ebay as well, no?

You can sell the physical anywhere really...but how do you get to the digital version of the physical stamp is the question no?

That is one of the questions indeed ;-)

It seems IMHO the physical stamp can be sold as like everything on ebay, and yes, probably when you want to send this physical stamp to your wallet or another wallet, you'll need to scratch, but if you already bought this stamp through OnChain-shop, you'll probably just can transfer (sell) it without scratching (I think), and sell it physically as well.

The interesting part is, you can buy a stamp through OnChain-shop, but you don't have to have it send physically to you...
But you can sell it already...

So I think when it is bought OnChain, you can sell it twice, if you have the physical one too...

Which is weird!

So, for example, it is possible I have the physical stamp and you have the digital???

Or I'm missing something...

 

[krogothmanhattan]

This might help  https://hackernoon.com/the-first-blockchain-stamp-in-the-world-and-what-is-means-f6f777838370?gi=848be9321b3b

[fikira12]

This might help  https://hackernoon.com/the-first-blockchain-stamp-in-the-world-and-what-is-means-f6f777838370?gi=848be9321b3b

Excellent link! Thanks!

Need to read it 2-3 times or more, but there seems to be indeed a difference between the OnChain ones and the others.
Also, it is not clear if the OnChain ones look different, I'm still waiting for mine, so I don't know at the moment...

So, if I'm correct, each stamp of the 149,500 is sold with it's wallet aside to its physical stamp-part.
To start with selling digitally, you'll need to scratch...

1 of the 500 OnChain stamps is already in the buyer's wallet, and can already be sold through for example Metamask to another address,
without scratching, since it is already digitally.

(The first one who lets the stamp ship to his address, had the physical form, this doesn't have to be the first owner,
it only can happen once though)

Here is the text you'll get when entering 1 of the 500 OnChain assets on https://crypto.post.at/CS1/... (asset):

" ... TRANSFER YOUR CRYPTO STAMP:
As the owner of this crypto stamp, you can transfer this asset to any wallet. You can use the following form for this. The transaction is created in your browser and only passed in encrypted form to the blockchain. Important: Please make sure that the receiver wallet can handle at least ERC-20 tokens, ideally also with ERC-721.
Start transaction ... "

Which is a difference when entering 1 of the 149,500:

" ... TRANSFER YOUR CRYPTO STAMP:
This crypto stamp was bought with a paper wallet. To transfer them to another wallet - for example, the one you already use - you can use the code located on the right part of the mark under Rubbelfeld [3] to start the transfer here.
As the owner of this crypto stamp, you can transfer this asset to any wallet. You can use the following form for this. The transaction is created in your browser and only passed in encrypted form to the blockchain. Important: Please make sure that the receiver wallet can handle at least ERC-20 tokens, ideally also with ERC-721.
Start transaction ... "

In this case the owner of 1 of the 500 OnChain stamps should be able to sell it twice (physically and digitally)
if he lets it send physically to his address.

I do wonder what happens if it is sold already digitally, and when the physical owner scratches the scratch part 
Perhaps they come without scratch part 

So, the stamps for sale on opensea.io would be or the scratched physical ones, transferred digitally, or 1 of the 500 (without scratching)...

All really simple isn't it! 

[Mbitr]

Hooray - mine arrived today
2 black
1 green

[GoWest]

Any estimates as to the value of a red OCS stamp, since there are only three that exist? I heard that the OCS stamps will have a different physical appearance from the other 149,500 crypto stamps. A "1 of 3" stamp from the Austrian Post Office should be super valuable, no?

[TheNewAnon135246]

Any estimates as to the value of a red OCS stamp, since there are only three that exist? I heard that the OCS stamps will have a different physical appearance from the other 149,500 crypto stamps. A "1 of 3" stamp from the Austrian Post Office should be super valuable, no?

Look at the current eBay prices for the red stamps. I think you can do the math for a limited 1 of 3 stamp .

[frankbitcoin]

Got my shipping confirmation today (order placed on the 18th) 

[Kryptowerk]

Any estimates as to the value of a red OCS stamp, since there are only three that exist? I heard that the OCS stamps will have a different physical appearance from the other 149,500 crypto stamps. A "1 of 3" stamp from the Austrian Post Office should be super valuable, no?

Where did you get the info that this stamp will have a different appearance? Not what I heard, but then again, some of the info from the Austrian post offices were totally wrong, so maybe same here.
Do you own all three? - I heard they were all bought by one person, lol.
If you want to know the value, put it in auction and roll the advertisement roll for it so interested people will bid. Good luck. 
My personal guess for value would be in the 1.5 - 4 BTC range. Possibly more. Have fun.


Regarding the physical stamps I got some additional info: They are oversold. Meaning the Austrian post didn't keep proper track of their stock and sold more stamps online thaAn they can deliver. Now they are sending out emails to big buyers to tell them they cannot fulfill their whole order.

[krogothmanhattan]

Regarding the physical stamps I got some additional info: They are oversold. Meaning the Austrian post didn't keep proper track of their stock and sold more stamps online thaAn they can deliver. Now they are sending out emails to big buyers to tell them they cannot fulfill their whole order.

You mean the 5000 stamps I bought are not arriving! Oh no!

But seriously, I hope my measly few that I bought will arrive safe and sound!

Had one ebay purchase that ended in Missouri instead of NYC...and yes it was registered! 

[GoWest]

Where did you get the info that this stamp will have a different appearance? Not what I heard, but then again, some of the info from the Austrian post offices were totally wrong, so maybe same here.

Read into it what you will, but this is from Andreas Petersson, who was part of the Cryptostamps project:



Rough translation: "the OCS stamps are much rarer than the red ones and should be part of a complete collection." You're right, he's not saying that they will have a different appearance. I guess we'll see.

Do you own all three? - I heard they were all bought by one person, lol.

Only one. I managed to snag it from opensea.

If you want to know the value, put it in auction and roll the advertisement roll for it so interested people will bid. Good luck. 
My personal guess for value would be in the 1.5 - 4 BTC range. Possibly more. Have fun.

Thanks!! That'd be pretty sweet. I will sit on it until we at least can confirm the details of how the OCS stamps differ from the others, if at all.

[fikira12]

The colours of OCS stamps are randomly picked, so I've been told

[GoWest]

The colours of OCS stamps are randomly picked, so I've been told

They were actually pre-determined by the contract. That's how someone was able to "game the system" and buy all three red OCS stamps.

[fikira12]

Indeed, the link provided by krogothmanhattan
contains the information how this is done!
https://hackernoon.com/the-first-blockchain-stamp-in-the-world-and-what-is-means-f6f777838370?gi=848be9321b3b

[krogothmanhattan]

The colours of OCS stamps are randomly picked, so I've been told

They were actually pre-determined by the contract. That's how someone was able to "game the system" and buy all three red OCS stamps.

And now you are a proud owner of one of three? Congratulations! 

[GoWest]

The colours of OCS stamps are randomly picked, so I've been told

They were actually pre-determined by the contract. That's how someone was able to "game the system" and buy all three red OCS stamps.

And now you are a proud owner of one of three? Congratulations! 

Yeah I got lucky that the buyer was willing to give one up!

[krogothmanhattan]

The colours of OCS stamps are randomly picked, so I've been told

They were actually pre-determined by the contract. That's how someone was able to "game the system" and buy all three red OCS stamps.

And now you are a proud owner of one of three? Congratulations! 

Yeah I got lucky that the buyer was willing to give one up!

That is a Hodler item for sure.

[fikira12]

I'm beginning to think when buying an OCS stamp that:
or:
- the right part is removed, thereby maybe only the left part (post stamp €6,90) is shipped

Since:

TRANSFER YOUR CRYPTO STAMP:
As the owner of this crypto stamp, you can transfer this asset to any wallet...

SHIPPING OF THE PHYSICAL STAMP
This asset is for sale or purchased from the OnChain Shop.
...
The digital asset has been submitted to the buyer wallet.
The owner arranged for the physical stamp to be sent...

or:
- the right part looks differently

or:
- it just comes in the 2 parts,
since the seed phrase [2] belongs to the first wallet (OnChain-Shop) address [3] IF the asset is linked to that address.

When the asset is linked to another wallet during purchase, you cannot do anything anymore with the address [3]
and seed phrase [2] hidden under the scratch fields, so the codes [2] & [3] on the second part don't matter anymore.
The first address contains 0 Crypto stamp and the asset can then only be moved by its new owner through his (ETH) wallet...

Sorry for thinking too much out loud here  

Can't wait to discover its true nature!

[fikira12]

This might help  https://hackernoon.com/the-first-blockchain-stamp-in-the-world-and-what-is-means-f6f777838370?gi=848be9321b3b

Well, well, after thinking and trying a bit further I discover the writer of this article has 2 red OCS stamps in his wallet, well done!