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June 19, 2014, 10:14:28 PM |
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what are the s1 upgrade specs/price?
Bitmain have never said that it will be possible to upgrade the S1 so not sure why so many people think it will be. It's still unknown what the upgrade path will be for S2's but it's likely to be just replacement blades, and it remains to be seen how good a deal it will be. You won't be able to swap 10 blades with the ones from the S3 as the power consumption will be too high, so it's either going to be different blades with underclocked chips or fewer blades say 4 to match the 1000w PSU. I think that S4 will be S2 form factor with under-clocked S3 chips. I would suspect newer chips since the 1380 has been used in 2 products already. |
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June 19, 2014, 10:37:29 PM |
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Bitmain have never said that it will be possible to upgrade the S1 so not sure why so many people think it will be.
Actually...... Reserved for Q&A
1. Will there be upgrade parts for S1 and S2?
Yes, there will be. But we still need to solve some production/testing problem before we finalize the plan and public it.
I stand corrected, had never seen them mention it only the S2 here is another recent quote ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 Published on June 18th, 2014, Next Generation of ANTMINER Product: S3S3 is a blade style miner similar with S1, and two S3 hash blades share one control board. Each ANTMINER S3 contains 32 BM1382 chips. It will be hashing at 504 GH/s while consumes about 390W from the wall. The overall efficiency is about 0.77 J/GH. The design of heat sink is customized but it is compatible with the hashing board of S1. Hence we will be able to provide all the S1 buyers an option of upgrade. We have added a box over S3 to control the air flow, and we use two fans so that each fan will be able to work at lower speed. |
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sikke
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June 19, 2014, 10:38:16 PM
Last edit: June 19, 2014, 11:26:24 PM by sikke |
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what are the s1 upgrade specs/price?
Bitmain have never said that it will be possible to upgrade the S1 so not sure why so many people think it will be. It's still unknown what the upgrade path will be for S2's but it's likely to be just replacement blades, and it remains to be seen how good a deal it will be. You won't be able to swap 10 blades with the ones from the S3 as the power consumption will be too high, so it's either going to be different blades with underclocked chips or fewer blades say 4 to match the 1000w PSU. Reserved for Q&A
1. Will there be upgrade parts for S1 and S2?
Yes, there will be. But we still need to solve some production/testing problem before we finalize the plan and public it.
S2 is 640pcs 55nm chips at 1000w S2-->S4 could be upgradable with 90w blades of new chips. 9 chips per board 10w per chip and wut aroud 160Gh from each board and you get closer to 1,6TH miner with same thermaldensity and 1000w power consumption. Cooling and psu needs stay similar. OR tuning up do the same with 8 chips per board. Also design allows you to upgrade blade by blade. Manufacturing just the blade is supercheap when only real cost is the 9 chips. Rest of the blade is worth 12$ at mass production level. S1 and S2 blades are diffrent by design. Still both are very very simple and cheap to make. 1BTC S4 upgrade kit of 10 blades. haha I'm just tossing out some numbers here. I could see myself paying 1BTC for upgrade.. Customer would get 60% increase in mining power with upgrade path. Upgrading blade by blade. Long frogotten video how S1 blades are assembled. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxgdAT7B_DQ |
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June 19, 2014, 11:19:38 PM |
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what are the s1 upgrade specs/price?
Bitmain have never said that it will be possible to upgrade the S1 so not sure why so many people think it will be. It's still unknown what the upgrade path will be for S2's but it's likely to be just replacement blades, and it remains to be seen how good a deal it will be. You won't be able to swap 10 blades with the ones from the S3 as the power consumption will be too high, so it's either going to be different blades with underclocked chips or fewer blades say 4 to match the 1000w PSU. I think that S4 will be S2 form factor with under-clocked S3 chips. I would suspect newer chips since the 1380 has been used in 2 products already. S3 has new chips-1382, not 1380. |
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June 20, 2014, 01:21:39 AM |
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anyone need S2 coupons? i have 4left, just PM me and donate a reasonable btc  1Ng9mxLR25QkyGdFJo6UKZNQJVbR85AjJw When they expire? Yea i also have 6 s2 cupons ... make me a offer and they are yours lol !
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same question-when they expire? coupons expired at 21 june 2014 |
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R4v37
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June 20, 2014, 01:24:16 AM |
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anyone need S2 coupons? i have 4left, just PM me and donate a reasonable btc 1Ng9mxLR25QkyGdFJo6UKZNQJVbR85AjJw When they expire? Yea i also have 6 s2 cupons ... make me a offer and they are yours lol !
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same question-when they expire? coupons expired at 21 june 2014 donated 1 to "mullenium" 3left... |
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R4v37
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June 20, 2014, 03:38:46 AM |
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anyone need S2 coupons? i have 4left, just PM me and donate a reasonable btc 1Ng9mxLR25QkyGdFJo6UKZNQJVbR85AjJw When they expire? Yea i also have 6 s2 cupons ... make me a offer and they are yours lol !
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same question-when they expire? coupons expired at 21 june 2014 donated 1 to "mullenium" 3left... donated 1 to "owendong" 2left |
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R4v37
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June 20, 2014, 04:13:37 AM |
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anyone need S2 coupons? i have 4left, just PM me and donate a reasonable btc 1Ng9mxLR25QkyGdFJo6UKZNQJVbR85AjJw When they expire? Yea i also have 6 s2 cupons ... make me a offer and they are yours lol !
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same question-when they expire? coupons expired at 21 june 2014 donated 1 to "mullenium" 3left... donated 1 to "owendong" 2left donated 1 to "Pt0x" 1left... well, these guys just want free coupon...  nvm, hope i get something bigger than their donation... thanks guys |
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June 20, 2014, 04:55:45 AM |
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Looking to buy/donate for a S2 coupon. Please PM me. Thanks!
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oskuro
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June 20, 2014, 01:48:42 PM |
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Bitmain have never said that it will be possible to upgrade the S1 so not sure why so many people think it will be.
Actually...... Reserved for Q&A
1. Will there be upgrade parts for S1 and S2?
Yes, there will be. But we still need to solve some production/testing problem before we finalize the plan and public it.
I stand corrected, had never seen them mention it only the S2 here is another recent quote ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 Published on June 18th, 2014, Next Generation of ANTMINER Product: S3S3 is a blade style miner similar with S1, and two S3 hash blades share one control board. Each ANTMINER S3 contains 32 BM1382 chips. It will be hashing at 504 GH/s while consumes about 390W from the wall. The overall efficiency is about 0.77 J/GH. The design of heat sink is customized but it is compatible with the hashing board of S1. Hence we will be able to provide all the S1 buyers an option of upgrade. We have added a box over S3 to control the air flow, and we use two fans so that each fan will be able to work at lower speed. so its better to wait for S3 than buying S2? i have two S1 right now. thx! |
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freebit13
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June 20, 2014, 02:03:08 PM |
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I'd say wait and see, with this holiday happening right now you're not going to get delivery for a while anyway. With what's been thrown around it looks like you might be able to upgrade your 2 S1's to 500GH/s each by purchasing new boards.
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oskuro
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June 20, 2014, 02:17:45 PM |
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I'd say wait and see, with this holiday happening right now you're not going to get delivery for a while anyway. With what's been thrown around it looks like you might be able to upgrade your 2 S1's to 500GH/s each by purchasing new boards.
That would be nice if i could upgrade them  ok thx! |
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freebit13
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June 20, 2014, 02:26:01 PM |
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I'd say wait and see, with this holiday happening right now you're not going to get delivery for a while anyway. With what's been thrown around it looks like you might be able to upgrade your 2 S1's to 500GH/s each by purchasing new boards.
That would be nice if i could upgrade them ok thx! I reckon they will offer new boards so you can just use the old heatsinks, controller, fan and psu and upgrade from 180GH/s to 504GH/s. I think that's the best option with the S1's reaching the end of their profitable lifespan and it will probably save a lot of the shipping nightmares (and costs) experienced with the S2. Hopefully the new boards will be as "overclockable" as the S1 boards are, it could mean a bit more experimental fun coming our way (the S2's are a bit boring) |
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oskuro
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June 20, 2014, 02:33:05 PM |
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I'd say wait and see, with this holiday happening right now you're not going to get delivery for a while anyway. With what's been thrown around it looks like you might be able to upgrade your 2 S1's to 500GH/s each by purchasing new boards.
That would be nice if i could upgrade them ok thx! I reckon they will offer new boards so you can just use the old heatsinks, controller, fan and psu and upgrade from 180GH/s to 504GH/s. I think that's the best option with the S1's reaching the end of their profitable lifespan and it will probably save a lot of the shipping nightmares (and costs) experienced with the S2. Hopefully the new boards will be as "overclockable" as the S1 boards are, it could mean a bit more experimental fun coming our way (the S2's are a bit boring) Well it depends how much it is, and when are they going to sell those upgrades if they do. |
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chadwickx16
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June 20, 2014, 03:46:07 PM |
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I was going to sell my S1's but now the S3 has got me all excited!!
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oskuro
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June 20, 2014, 04:03:56 PM |
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I'd say wait and see, with this holiday happening right now you're not going to get delivery for a while anyway. With what's been thrown around it looks like you might be able to upgrade your 2 S1's to 500GH/s each by purchasing new boards.
That would be nice if i could upgrade them ok thx! I reckon they will offer new boards so you can just use the old heatsinks, controller, fan and psu and upgrade from 180GH/s to 504GH/s. I think that's the best option with the S1's reaching the end of their profitable lifespan and it will probably save a lot of the shipping nightmares (and costs) experienced with the S2. Hopefully the new boards will be as "overclockable" as the S1 boards are, it could mean a bit more experimental fun coming our way (the S2's are a bit boring) but where did you read that info? official announcement? |
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June 20, 2014, 04:05:12 PM |
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my coupons expire 2014-06-21 23:56:00 not a lot of time left
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freebit13
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June 20, 2014, 04:14:46 PM |
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but where did you read that info? official announcement?
Just taking bits and pieces of what has been announced and discussed over the last few months... it looks to be the way they are going... nothing exactly official yet and of course the price will have to be right. It just makes more sense to keep the useable parts (controllers, psu, fans etc.) and swap out the parts that become unprofitable as difficulty increases (the asics). I know I'd rather upgrade the boards in my S1 and S2, than try to find some unsuspecting noob to buy my worthless gear of me....  |
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nottm28
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June 20, 2014, 04:16:33 PM |
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2 x $400 S2 coupons left expiring 29th June - 0.085 each - pm
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rhj12345
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June 20, 2014, 04:18:56 PM |
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This is indeed a sad day.  After 25 units ordered from Bitmain and all running perfect, I have to report to them my first RMA. I just got in an S2 that works for 1 hour and then turns off and resets. Not heat as 2 others next to are just fine. Ok, guys wish me luck.  Rob PS. Also anybody seen the same thing on there S2? Power supply maybe??? |
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